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Windows 10 black screen / stuttering[message #341906] Thu, 30 July 2015 04:57 Go to next message
igodi

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Hey guys,

Windows 10 rolled out today and it seems like JA2 is not running on it.
I can start the game and i can hear the background music playing but my screen stays black.
To solve this i tried to run the .exe on XP SP3 compatibility and as an admin.
This brings back the screen but the game is stuttering very bad.

Any ideas?

Edit by Schein:

sevenfm wrote on Sat, 12 December 2015 19:58
Here's the description of "registry patch" which should 100% work with win 8x-10x unless you have some special problems with video drivers:
http://forum.ja2.su/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=no;action=display;num=1440878146
Use google translate if needed.

[Updated on: Sun, 13 December 2015 00:02] by Moderator

Re: Windows 10 black screen / stuttering[message #341910 is a reply to message #341906] Thu, 30 July 2015 14:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Slax

 
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It's a new OS focused on new things. Give it a few months to grow some compatibility updates.
Or you could try running it with 16-bit graphics.



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Re: Windows 10 black screen / stuttering[message #341911 is a reply to message #341910] Thu, 30 July 2015 14:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd try those .dll's we use for Win8, it's probably just the same legacy calls missing that they dropped back then.



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Re: Windows 10 black screen / stuttering[message #341928 is a reply to message #341911] Sun, 02 August 2015 10:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Phantom3D

 
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Yes the DLL's work. I have no issue with 7435 anymore, this was on the same computer I had loads of issues with win8.1.

Quote:
Ok, I think I bring good news towards Windows 10 with 7435 and update. I have played for a bit over 3 hours with no faults now.
I have talked to Miguel, Carlos, Ira, taken over the airport. Talked to several AIM members through the website.
I also loaded an old save from my windows 7 machine, and continued from there a bit, talking to NPC's and a few battles. No problems.

Here is how I got it running:

First I also got a black screen i fullscreen mode. Then I changed to windowed mode, and i changed the compability of ja2.exe:
Run in XP sp3 mode.
Reduced color 16 bit
Run as admin.

I also set win 98 compabitly mode to true in the INI editor. (Might not be needed).

Now I got in the game, but I kept getting "Assertion error" or something similar.
Then I added the three DLL files from the "win8 fix".
ddraw.dll, libwine.dll and wined3d.dll and put them in my JA2 directory.

Now it runs perfectly, both in windowed mode and in fullscreen.


Re: Windows 10 black screen / stuttering[message #341943 is a reply to message #341928] Mon, 03 August 2015 19:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TrentL

 
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Did you have random lockups on 8.1?

I'm considering upgrading to win 10 and if JA2 works again on it without freezing randomly, that's a compelling reason. happy
Re: Windows 10 black screen / stuttering[message #341945 is a reply to message #341943] Mon, 03 August 2015 19:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Phantom3D

 
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Yes, I had lockups on my two win 8.1 computers. I have upgraded both now (A pad and a laptop). But I have only tested ja2 1.13 7435 on the laptop with win 10, and no problems.
Re: Windows 10 black screen / stuttering[message #343408 is a reply to message #341945] Sun, 06 December 2015 09:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Julix

 
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I'm on win 10 and did the compatibility things and the .dll files and got it to run, but it crashes a lot, with the offical 2014 stable + patch. - Compatibility settings don't actually seem to be necessary, either, but turning them off hasn't gotten rid of the problems. It freezes often when the ingame laptop is open for a bit, but also when going from strategical to tactical map (black screen then crash) - and in tactical it crashes a lot too. basically not playable angry

I'll try re-installing, but have little hope. If you don't hear back from me it's probably because re-installing didn't work, or because I decided to continue doing homework instead big grin
Re: Windows 10 black screen / stuttering[message #343428 is a reply to message #343408] Wed, 09 December 2015 08:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Phantom3D

 
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I still have had no problems with win 10.
Re: Windows 10 black screen / stuttering[message #343454 is a reply to message #343428] Sat, 12 December 2015 02:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Julix

 
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I'm so jealous! angry
Re: Windows 10 black screen / stuttering[message #343457 is a reply to message #343454] Sat, 12 December 2015 20:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Edit by Schein: removed from "Modest Mike" thread:
http://thepit.ja-galaxy-forum.com/index.php?t=msg&th=16311&goto=343410&#msg_343410

Julix wrote on Sun, 06 December 2015 08:46
However, as Win 10 isn't letting me play this game smoothly (gamebreaking frequent crashes despite win 8 fixes), I'll probably not get around to actually seeing him for quite a while.

Considering going back to Win 7 but I didn't bring my Win 7 install disk when I moved back to Canada, and many of the things that weren't working right away (sound, webcam, etc.) are working now, so JA2 alone is probably not going to be enough reason for me to get my hands on an install disc, etc.

But who knows, maybe the win 10 issues resolve themselves with JA2 as well, and then I'll have this dude! happy

Julian



sevenfm wrote on Sun, 06 December 2015 15:33
Julix wrote on Sun, 06 December 2015 12:46
However, as Win 10 isn't letting me play this game smoothly (gamebreaking frequent crashes despite win 8 fixes)

Try registry fix, restore original DLLs, disable intro in ja2.ini.



Julix wrote on Sat, 12 December 2015 01:17
That's what I meant by win8 fixes. Intro needed to be disabled to even get into the game... I added .DLL files out of that folder, is that what you mean by "restore originals? -- I did the registry thing that's in the documents folder called "Windows Compatibility Fixes" - though I'm not consistently setting the affinity to only 1 CPU core. Didn't manage to get the shortcut to work.

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Re: Windows 10 black screen / stuttering[message #343458 is a reply to message #343457] Sat, 12 December 2015 20:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sevenfm

 
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Quote:
I added .DLL files out of that folder, is that what you mean by "restore originals?

No.
Revert your game installation to clean Ja2 (or stock 1.13 Ja2) without any patches.
Here's the description of "registry patch" which should 100% work with win 8x-10x unless you have some special problems with video drivers:
http://forum.ja2.su/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=no;action=display;num=1440878146
Use google translate if needed.
This was discussed hundreds times before, someone should stick it somewhere probably.

Edit by Schein: Thank you Seven! "Stickied"

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Re: Windows 10 black screen / stuttering[message #343460 is a reply to message #343458] Sun, 13 December 2015 01:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Julix

 
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Hey sevenfm - thanks for pointing that out! The doc folder included something like this already, but the Russian version pointed out that doubleslashes are necessary! I didn't know that and put in normal slashes when I reinstalled and tried to do everything right...

Currently most things are working most of the time, the skyrider screen is weird, but works. The laptop still freezes, so I try to be fast using it. The game has the forever clock when I autofire and load while there's still bullets in the air or some other times when there's the clockcursor before I load. I used to use Task-Manager to force-close the game, which was hard, because ALT-TABing out of the game didn't properly work, so I would have to use the tiny preview of ALT-TAB to see which program was selected to be closed. Found out while alt tabbing I can hover over the program's preview and click on the small x to close. -- So basically I got better at coping with the hang-ups... The clock thing I remember from before I had win10 as well. Ingame day 4, just took cambria (after alma, after drassen, after chizena) at about half of max progress, I'll try to be quick about finishing up. Maybe I'll reinstall and get it right for a UC playthrough...

Can't believe how long I've been playing JA2 for, and for how long you guys have been working on it too! Thanks to everyone still active happy
Re: Windows 10 black screen / stuttering[message #343461 is a reply to message #343460] Sun, 13 December 2015 03:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Julix you can also use Ctrl+Enter to stop clock or press Alt+X and then select No.
Sometimes pressing numpad '-' (highspeed timer) also helps with clock.



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Re: Windows 10 black screen / stuttering[message #343479 is a reply to message #343461] Tue, 15 December 2015 16:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Julix

 
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I just found the setting in the INI where you can press and hold NUMLOCK to get it to get rid of the clock! happy
Re: Windows 10 black screen / stuttering[message #343480 is a reply to message #343479] Tue, 15 December 2015 16:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sevenfm

 
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Julix wrote on Tue, 15 December 2015 19:02
I just found the setting in the INI where you can press and hold NUMLOCK to get it to get rid of the clock! happy


According to the description, NUMLOCK is used to skip strategic events, not tactical clock
Quote:
;----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------
; Skip global strategic events (use to prevent game crashes). Press and hold NUMLOCK to skip.
;----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------

ENABLE_EMERGENCY_BUTTON_NUMLOCK_TO_SKIP_STRATEGIC_EVENTS = FALSE




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Re: Windows 10 black screen / stuttering[message #343585 is a reply to message #341906] Fri, 01 January 2016 11:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shadow6

 
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Yeah, I just got a new laptop that had Win10 on it. Ran through all the fixes in the docs folder and I got it to work in windowed mode but the window the game comes up in is low on the screen and cuts off the clock. I've tried adjusting the screen settings to fix it but to no avail. When I run it in fullscreen mode, it's laggy as hell. Any thoughts on a fix for either?
Re: Windows 10 black screen / stuttering[message #343586 is a reply to message #343585] Fri, 01 January 2016 18:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You can adjust the screen resolution in Ja2.ini to better fit your Windows screen resolution. As long as the window is smaller than the Windows screen you can move it around as you like and nothing will be cut off.

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Re: Windows 10 black screen / stuttering[message #345778 is a reply to message #343586] Thu, 02 June 2016 04:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Julix

 
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Any thoughts on why the full screen version seems less stable? - nevermind, got the same freeze in windowed... angry

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Re: Windows 10 black screen / stuttering[message #346515 is a reply to message #341906] Sun, 07 August 2016 02:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Julix

 
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I have since then managed to get to the end once (with the modest Mike mentioned) - but many many crashes - early this year.

And a second replay attempt failed to me giving up due to too much drama with these errors.

I've since tried to install windows 7 in a virtual machine, but the emulation ate up way too much resources, so it wasn't worth it in the slightest. On top one of the two virtual machines I tried (either Oracle's VM or the one that comes with win 10 pro) didn't get the sound to work either.

I was now working on installing a dual-boot (i.e. second system on this computer) to solve it, but turns out my disk is a Win 7 64 bit, which is likely to have problems of its own, as 64 can't simulate 16 where 32 can, is that right? Any problems with Win 7 64 bit? (I used to have 32 bit when things were still working better, though to a point crashes have always been part of my JA2 experience... remember granades and other thrown objects often causing hookups for me in vanilla...)

Between windows XP and windows 7 32 bit, which do you think will be more stable?

Julian
Re: Windows 10 black screen / stuttering[message #346517 is a reply to message #346515] Sun, 07 August 2016 05:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm running in Win 7 64-bit. Didn't have to do anything to make the game run.

FWIW, the OS that I have used where JA2 was the most stable was 32-bit Linux (Xubuntu). XP was the second-most stable for me, and Win 7 64-bit just behind that.




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Re: Windows 10 black screen / stuttering[message #346518 is a reply to message #346517] Sun, 07 August 2016 06:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Julix

 
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I didn't even know it ran on Linux! I saw Stratiatella does, but 1.13 too?

Edit: found this http://thepit.ja-galaxy-forum.com/index.php?t=msg&th=11541&start=280&
Is the Linux port dead?

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Re: Windows 10 black screen / stuttering[message #346519 is a reply to message #346518] Sun, 07 August 2016 07:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It runs under WINE (Windows Emulation) in Linux just fine. Dunno about the Linux port, or even why they feel they have to do it when it runs fine under WINE.




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Re: Windows 10 black screen / stuttering[message #346527 is a reply to message #346519] Sun, 07 August 2016 11:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was running JA2 on Windows 7 x64 before and never had any problems except a crash here and there which was code related. Some of these crashes have been fixed in recent dev builds and Sevenfm's experimental project. Maybe you should try one of these. On Win 7 the only thing I had to change was to set the desktop to 16bit color if I wanted to run the game in windowed mode. On Win 10 this isn't needed anymore because it can run a program in 16 bit color despite the desktop being set to 32 bit.
On Win 10 I still have to figure out why the strategic map displays some weired colors when certain filters are selected.



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Re: Windows 10 black screen / stuttering[message #346533 is a reply to message #341906] Sun, 07 August 2016 18:36 Go to previous message
Julix

 
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Set up my Win 7, 32 bit installation and I'm just amazed at how fluent everything is. Like when you click on hiring someone that window pops up so much faster... very happy! happy
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