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Riot shield[message #346079] Mon, 04 July 2016 08:39 Go to next message
pattoze

 
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I'm no programmer by any stretch of the imagination, but could a riot shield be a possibility, with entering rooms etc? Everyone knows that indoor sections can be a veritable nightmare, especially with grey shirts inside, and it would drastically increase your survivability there, I understand that the animation would probably be a hell of a lot of work, if not impossible, but I would love to see it, I'm sure other people would to.

Thoughts?
Re: Riot shield[message #346080 is a reply to message #346079] Mon, 04 July 2016 09:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
silversurfer

 
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Why use a riot shield if you can just C4 the building with everyone inside? C4 is also much easier to carry around than some heavy bulky shield.



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Re: Riot shield[message #346081 is a reply to message #346080] Mon, 04 July 2016 10:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pattoze

 
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I like your logic, but I was thinking more of a "realistic" method of clearing rooms haha
Re: Riot shield[message #346082 is a reply to message #346079] Mon, 04 July 2016 12:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
smeagol

 
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pattoze wrote on Mon, 04 July 2016 07:39
I'm no programmer by any stretch of the imagination, but could a riot shield be a possibility, with entering rooms etc? Everyone knows that indoor sections can be a veritable nightmare, especially with grey shirts inside, and it would drastically increase your survivability there, I understand that the animation would probably be a hell of a lot of work, if not impossible, but I would love to see it, I'm sure other people would to.

Thoughts?



As far as I know, there had been attempts to do the animations once... the person doing it almost went to a mental institution after doing a few pics...

But seriously, yes... riot shields would be kinda neat (especially with the selection of melee weapons that will be in the upcoming AIMNAS update), but the main problem are infact the lacking animations which are a TON of work, unless someone gets a 3D modeling working (each bodytype needs ~160 - 200 pics for a single animation... that leads to a lot of boring and tedious painting and you can't even be certain that the result looks decent in game...).

Still not impossible, but unlikely unless someone will take the burden of the ring and walk into Mordor (a.k.a. animation design)... but we all know... "You don't simply walk into Mordor..."


Re: Riot shield[message #346083 is a reply to message #346082] Mon, 04 July 2016 12:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pattoze

 
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I don't blame them, I'd lose myself in all the jumbles of letters before I had any semblance of completion>

I really just like the idea of Barry breaching a room, getting the crap shot out of his shield and having Fidel waste everyone in the room. Plus having enemies use them would definitely bring up some new tactics on dealing with them, I'd imagine stun grenades would be perfect, but alas, a man can dream can't he?


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Re: Riot shield[message #346084 is a reply to message #346083] Mon, 04 July 2016 12:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Flugente

 
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As smeagol said, the problem is animations. The rest - blocking or at least significantly lowering damage if it comes from a specific direction if we have a shield in our hands - is easy.



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Re: Riot shield[message #346085 is a reply to message #346081] Mon, 04 July 2016 12:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot

 
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pattoze wrote on Mon, 04 July 2016 09:04
I like your logic, but I was thinking more of a "realistic" method of clearing rooms haha
In a (para-)military context, that is the realistic method, we aren't the police.



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Re: Riot shield[message #346086 is a reply to message #346085] Mon, 04 July 2016 13:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pattoze

 
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That's actually a good point
Re: Riot shield[message #346542 is a reply to message #346086] Mon, 08 August 2016 07:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Julix

 
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Is there any 3D models for JA2 available? The bodies at least? I'm not stupid enough to try drawing them images by hand, but I'd be curious to try modelling. I remember there was a thread way back when... someone tried that and made really good progress and then vanished, right?

Edit: nevermind - found it Here

http://i.imgur.com/nY6UXHu.gif

[Updated on: Mon, 08 August 2016 07:31]

Re: Riot shield[message #350663 is a reply to message #346542] Sun, 20 August 2017 03:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Czert

 
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yeah, now we just need anim for crouched state and with holding SMG in booth states.
Re: Riot shield[message #350918 is a reply to message #350663] Sat, 09 September 2017 20:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lexx

 
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My original idea was not to have the shield appear at all if you crouch-move. The "only" animations for the shield necessary were stand idle, crouch idle, walking, running, "aiming" and pistol attack. Still a shitton of frames, but not *that* much anymore. Some folks made new Fallout critters with editing 10k frames by hand, adding the shield to the frames is laughable easy compared to that. big grin

I didn't continued with it, because I think there was very little support. One or two helping hands would have drastically increased the production speed.

[Updated on: Sat, 09 September 2017 20:46]

Re: Riot shield[message #350920 is a reply to message #350918] Sat, 09 September 2017 21:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot

 
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Uh, you guys realize we now have ballistic shields, right?



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Re: Riot shield[message #351481 is a reply to message #350920] Tue, 14 November 2017 10:17 Go to previous message
pattoze

 
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I didn't get email notifications for this....I was not aware of it no!
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