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[AR] Suddenly old 1.13 cursor and accuracy values after starting a new game?[message #347040] Sat, 24 September 2016 02:46 Go to next message
gimmehints

 
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I only have two unfinished AR games under my belt so far, but both times I had a different aiming cursor (it was fairly minimal, can't describe it better and don't have any screenshots ready), and weapons had a low +/-X accuracy modifier. For example starting pistols had +0 across the board, SMGs and rifles +2-4 and a later sniper rifle only +7. Much later I saw one with +11, but none of this 33 for a HK MP4A4! I've tweaked my settings a bit since last time, but I'm not aware of anything that should influence that guns value or the cursor shape/info and aside from being surprised, I thought those things were AR default and possibly part of it's redesign of 1.13? Can anyone tell me what happened there? I'm starting a let's play of AR right now and I can still restart with "proper" settings, but what on earth is proper? And which setting is responsible?
Re: [AR] Suddenly old 1.13 cursor and accuracy values after starting a new game?[message #347041 is a reply to message #347040] Sat, 24 September 2016 04:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gimmehints

 
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note that I didn't change any combat related settings before starting this new game. the only things I changed since last game:

- sell to locals increased to 25%.
- aggressive AI switched off
- elite milita training delay 7 instead of 30
- returned to classic progress calculation
- returned to classic repair system

all other settings have been used in the last two games. I don't see how any of the above would change gun related things. I could understand getting another cursor by some unnoticed key presses, but that wouldn't explain why the accuracy value of guns changed. As far as I'm concerned those two things are related, and I only had the new accuracy values once I installed AR over 7609, so I sort of think that was how it was meant to be. Why did it change? help please angry
Re: [AR] Suddenly old 1.13 cursor and accuracy values after starting a new game?[message #347052 is a reply to message #347041] Sat, 24 September 2016 12:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Enneagon

 
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To me it sounds you probably somehow inadvertently regressed to OCTH.

EDIT: NCTH is marked ON in your game setup screen though.
If game info (V key) confirms it supposed to be on... you probably run into something strange.

[Updated on: Sat, 24 September 2016 13:03]

Re: [AR] Suddenly old 1.13 cursor and accuracy values after starting a new game?[message #347055 is a reply to message #347052] Sat, 24 September 2016 14:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
silversurfer

 
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If you started with NCTH a value of 33 is completely correct for accuracy of the HK MP5A4 (<nAccuracy>33</nAccuracy> in Weapons.xml). In OCTH the value would be 6 (<bAccuracy>6</bAccuracy> in Weapons.xml).

OCTH has a very minimal cursor compared to NCTH.



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Re: [AR] Suddenly old 1.13 cursor and accuracy values after starting a new game?[message #347058 is a reply to message #347055] Sat, 24 September 2016 18:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gimmehints

 
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Madness. Here is the cursor I have now (http://imgur.com/a/GqqZ9) and this is the old accuracy value I talked about (http://imgur.com/a/0VeOp). Can someone confirm OCTH or NCTH from this? The V key only gives me this list (http://imgur.com/a/SJkst), doesn't mention chance to hit at all. And Enneagon has it right, I luckily made a screen of my game setup, where NCTH is clearly marked. I'm willing to swear I haven't played OCTH since before I started on 7609!
Re: [AR] Suddenly old 1.13 cursor and accuracy values after starting a new game?[message #347059 is a reply to message #347058] Sat, 24 September 2016 19:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ratpaz

 
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That's are definitely NCTH cursors and weapons accuracy values
Re: [AR] Suddenly old 1.13 cursor and accuracy values after starting a new game?[message #347060 is a reply to message #347059] Sat, 24 September 2016 19:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gimmehints

 
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Holy smokes! I just made a new game deliberately selecting OCTH - and guess what I found? This cursor http://imgur.com/a/yPvGd and this accuracy value http://imgur.com/a/OdNU2 - look, I swear I haven't played OCTH basically since NCTH got introduced. Yet for some reason the last two games - the first AR ones - used OCTH cursor and values. I haven't seen them in so long that I mistook them for a new thing!

I guess the easiest explanation is user error when setting up the last two games, but I'll be damned if I know how that slipped through. Sorry for the panicky thread, at least now I know, and the LP can be continued with peace of mind!

[Updated on: Sat, 24 September 2016 19:59]

Re: [AR] Suddenly old 1.13 cursor and accuracy values after starting a new game?[message #347062 is a reply to message #347060] Sat, 24 September 2016 22:05 Go to previous message
silversurfer

 
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If you want to make sure to always start with the correct settings you can modify Ja2_sp.ini in your profile folder ("Profiles\UserProfile_JA2113" or whatever folder the mod uses).
That way whenever you start a new game all settings are already as you wish and you only need to click on "Start".



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