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JA2 v1.13 conversion - Africa early 1950[message #347480] Fri, 04 November 2016 23:32 Go to next message
DocS73
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Registered:November 2016
Location: Switzerland
I've had the (totally weird) idea of creating a total conversion of JA2 V1.13, along the following lines:

- location: sub-Saharan Africa
- timeframe: early 1950s (that means WWII weapons/gear as well as some post-WWII stuff, up to AK-47/FN FAL)
- completely reworked map(s)
- include old Mercs from JA1 (now already done in the basic V1.13)

Now the more I look into this, the more I shy away from it, as the work involved is huge. Just replacing i.e. the aircraft shown in Drassen with something like a DC-3 seems to be more than my old brain can compute...

Furthermore, (almost) every time a new V1.13 release is out, something's off again (and I'm really only using major releases, so I'm on Release 7435: Build: 7609 now).


So, just 2 questions I'd like to ask:

I) Is there something along the lines described above available?
II) Did somebody already have the same/a similar idea?

Any info is welcome ... maybe there's already something out there (or some people would be willing to help creating it)?


Cheers,

DocS
Re: JA2 v1.13 conversion - Africa early 1950[message #347481 is a reply to message #347480] Sat, 05 November 2016 00:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shanga

 
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Registered:January 2000
Location: Danubia
You can replace any maps or any items/tilesets. It's just tiresome and time consuming.
The real hard work is re-coding the quest system and/or populating the maps with relevant enemy/npcs/entry points/items/triggers/etc.
We had over 200 new maps in JA2 Urban Chaos I think and it was a huge undertaking with tens of people involved in design and testing. I havent mapped in newer JA2 versions but my experience with the map editor weren't pleasant. Crashes, corrupted and lost maps were frequent and frustrating.

So... GOOD LUCK! happy

PS: Just my 2c, try your hand first at a smaller undertaking, like a replacing a few hidden maps, off the main world and pretending that you get there by plane/train for a quick side quest (map editor allows teleporting when mercs step on certain tiles - hence the JA2UC metro system).


Re: JA2 v1.13 conversion - Africa early 1950[message #347482 is a reply to message #347481] Sat, 05 November 2016 01:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hawkeye

 
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Registered:October 2005
Location: Australia
You could also take a look at the unfinished 'Horn of Africa' mod that may have some usable tiles and maps for a headstart.

Later versions of the map editor seem a lot more stable than they were a few years ago, so I wouldn't be put off too much, but as Shanga says there's a lot more work involved than most think when it comes to modding. In our case 'Vengeance: Reloaded' started as a basic translation job started in 2010, but a small team has turned into an entire mod rebuild and construction which is still ongoing.


Re: JA2 v1.13 conversion - Africa early 1950[message #347484 is a reply to message #347480] Sat, 05 November 2016 11:16 Go to previous message
Scheinworld

 
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Registered:December 2007
Location: Baltic Sea, Germany
Hello DocS and welcome to the forum,

DocS73 wrote on Fri, 04 November 2016 22:32
- timeframe: early 1950s (that means WWII weapons/gear as well as some post-WWII stuff, up to AK-47/FN FAL)

[...]

So, just 2 questions I'd like to ask:

I) Is there something along the lines described above available?
II) Did somebody already have the same/a similar idea?



If you want to build your (weapon)mod on a special time period you should take a look at EraMod based on IoV eventually:

Quote:
Its a rebalancing Mod sorting all Weapons and Equipment through there Era.
This means that you will take a time travel, starting in world war II with its specific weaponry and Warfare.
The you will explore the 50th and the first mass ancounter of early assault rifles.

Prograss 0-9% - 1900-1945 / World War II
Progress +10% - 1945-1959 / Korea


There also exists a Full SCI of latest EraMod2014 (1.13 rev1463):
http://kermi.pp.fi/JA_2/Mods_v1.13/IoV_former_DBB/IoV/IoV_928/EraMod/SCI/


And WW II Mod by Buns eventually:
http://kermi.pp.fi/JA_2/Mods_v1.13/WW2_Mod/

As Hawkeye said, best take a look at (unfinished) Horn of Africa 1.13 Mod by Farah Aydid:
http://kermi.pp.fi/JA_2/Mods_v1.13/Horn_of_Africa/

Good luck and much fun!


Best regards; Schein...



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