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Stuck on Bloodcat Lair[message #351492] Thu, 16 November 2017 18:52 Go to next message
asako

 
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Registered:December 2009
Hi everyone, it's been a while for those who might remember.

Before starting this insane difficulty run I made the difficulty less insane by changing the starting money and to be able to afford 7 IMP (which although there is game setting to allow for 8 or even 10 was my actual limit because the IMP page won't allow me to login again) and top Bobby Ray quality and slow progression. I made my way up to Alma and would like to complete the Bloodcat lair. Walked in with my 9 mercs and I got interrupted (?) and the game won't stop calculating. Can't do anything.
First I figured it was because I was flanked (enemies just walked into the sector I was coming from) and they would reinforce or something. So I took them out. No change. Went in without a scout, in a party of 6, only with Ira and Dmitri. Nothing.
Could this be an improved interrupt system issue? Is there anything I can do?

Edit:
Also should have mentioned I'm using SCI_Unstable_Revision_8496_on_GameDir_2397

[Updated on: Thu, 16 November 2017 18:55]

Re: Stuck on Bloodcat Lair[message #351509 is a reply to message #351492] Sat, 18 November 2017 05:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The_Bob

 
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Registered:May 2009
Location: Behind you.
This might be related to the improved interrupt system, I've seen it act up when dealing with bloodcats.

Do you still have the save files from when this happened? I've messed with the interrupt system before, I'd like to take a look at what's going on and hopefully fix this bug.

[Updated on: Sat, 18 November 2017 05:25]


Re: Stuck on Bloodcat Lair[message #351510 is a reply to message #351509] Sat, 18 November 2017 11:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
asako

 
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Registered:December 2009
Sure, I uploaded the file to this link.

https://ufile.io/f4u50

And thanks, hopefully there's something that can be done.
Re: Stuck on Bloodcat Lair[message #351511 is a reply to message #351510] Sat, 18 November 2017 14:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The_Bob

 
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Registered:May 2009
Location: Behind you.
I tried attacking with 9 mercs, placing the team at the northern and southern edges of walkable area seems to work fine. Once the fight started there were no issues, I could clear out the sector quite easily.

I managed to trigger the bug by entering around the middle, looks like the cats need to spot the player first for the freeze to occur. IIRC I've seen this bug before, not sure if it was bloodcats in general or just the lair, probably worked around it back then. I'll post here if I get anywhere with fixing this.

Re: Stuck on Bloodcat Lair[message #351513 is a reply to message #351511] Sat, 18 November 2017 20:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
silversurfer

 
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Bob, you may want to check the code around Sevenfm's changes in r8300. IIRC the bloodcat lair could crash the game so Sevenfm implemented checks to keep the game from crashing. However, this could lead to a deadlock. We couldn't figure out why the game got to the StartInterrupt function if nobody was actually interrupting. Maybe you can find the culprit.



Wildfire Maps Mod 6.07 on SVN: https://ja2svn.mooo.com/source/ja2/branches/Wanne/JA2%201.13%20Wildfire%206.06%20-%20Maps%20MOD

Re: Stuck on Bloodcat Lair[message #351517 is a reply to message #351511] Sun, 19 November 2017 00:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
asako

 
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Registered:December 2009
The_Bob wrote on Sat, 18 November 2017 14:10
I tried attacking with 9 mercs, placing the team at the northern and southern edges of walkable area seems to work fine. Once the fight started there were no issues, I could clear out the sector quite easily.

I managed to trigger the bug by entering around the middle, looks like the cats need to spot the player first for the freeze to occur. IIRC I've seen this bug before, not sure if it was bloodcats in general or just the lair, probably worked around it back then. I'll post here if I get anywhere with fixing this.


I just tried that, unfortunately it didn't work for me.

I did encounter bloodcats before and wasn't an issue then.
Re: Stuck on Bloodcat Lair[message #351539 is a reply to message #351517] Tue, 21 November 2017 01:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The_Bob

 
Messages:396
Registered:May 2009
Location: Behind you.
I think I got it, or at least one of the things that triggered it. Looks like the cats got confused trying to eat some crows.
Here's the fixed version: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3hftv9fv9v06i0u/JA2_8508.7z?dl=1 (it should be compatible with your save)

Overall the cat AI is still a mess, for some reason they don't react to getting shot at... or shot.

Re: Stuck on Bloodcat Lair[message #351566 is a reply to message #351539] Thu, 23 November 2017 02:14 Go to previous message
asako

 
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Registered:December 2009
Yeah,I just tried it out. It works. Many thanks The Bob. The cats were generally not too aggressive though. They'd sometimes just stand there even after being shot at. But at least I can continue my campaign.
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