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Using Garotte[message #351589] Sat, 25 November 2017 22:13 Go to next message
Valkyrie
Messages:2
Registered:November 2017
Location: Suriname
Hi everyone,

I just started palying 1.13 7609, and I figured out quite a lot already. I can't seem to figure out how I am supposed to use the garotte in the Covert mode though. What I do:

1. Put sneak mode
2. Put Garotte in hand
3. Approach enemy from behind
4. Press right mouse button

Then the fist icon comes up. It doesn't seem to work the way it is supposed to, since I am only capable of punching people. Please, any explanation would be really helpful, seeing as none of the fora out there seem to be any specific help.

Thanks!



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Re: Using Garotte[message #351617 is a reply to message #351589] Sun, 03 December 2017 22:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BattleGnome

 
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Registered:April 2016
I'm very surprised you haven't received an answer.

I too had some trouble with it and I gave up on it before properly figuring it out. But I prefer to go in all guns blazing anyway.

Hopefully someone with an answer will come forward... Someone must know.
Re: Using Garotte[message #351618 is a reply to message #351589] Mon, 04 December 2017 00:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
grim

 
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Registered:July 2006
Location: France
The garotte is linked to the covert operations. You'll find a lot of info there.
It's been some time i played, so what I'm going to say is probably false or inaccurate. The garotte is best used with a disguised merc, that is to say, covert, and then like you said :
Quote:
1. Put sneak mode
2. Put Garotte in hand
3. Approach enemy from behind
4. Press right mouse button

You need to aim at the head, too. There is a chance that your target will drop dead, directly, but it's not guarantied. The better yout covert/spy trait and stats of your merc, the better. The boni for using garotte are mentioned in the traits, by the way. If you're not covert, i don't think garotte is very helpful. You really have to play full spy to use it with efficiency, and yet, sometimes it misses and you're pretty f***** up.
Re: Using Garotte[message #351636 is a reply to message #351618] Thu, 07 December 2017 13:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Valkyrie
Messages:2
Registered:November 2017
Location: Suriname
THANK YOU!

I haven't had time to try it yet, but I think the right mouse button click, specifically on the head is what I failed to do in the first place! I expected to get a crosshairs or something of the sort when pressing the right mouse button. Anyway, I will get back to you on this if I get it succesful.



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Re: Using Garotte[message #351637 is a reply to message #351636] Fri, 08 December 2017 13:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Elvis_A

 
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Registered:December 2012
Location: exUSSR
garotte either broken or inefficient.
I tried to use Spy with excellent stats - 0 effect. I prefer stand to adjacent to enemy soldier who is far away from others and burst, 4-5 bullets to his head. This way disguise stays intact if nobody sees my merc.

I did some testing with my superspy Nikita
http://s018.radikal.ru/i528/1712/71/7c01862f8bdb.jpg


aprox 25% (1 of 4) chance of success. Which is really low.

so if do not want to see something like that - do not use it

http://s019.radikal.ru/i617/1712/ba/a8ea98eedd68.jpg

If this IMP fails to do the job, do not expect Elroy to use garotte better.
Conclusion - never use garotte.
Re: Using Garotte[message #351942 is a reply to message #351637] Sun, 07 January 2018 14:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
townltu

 
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Registered:December 2017
Location: here
Success and kill rate of garotte is 100% if Target is helpless for whatever reason,
and the game offers many ways to put target into that condition.

Certainly one of the most efficient items in the game when combined with other techniques,
but 1st attack with garotte is literally suicide,
no matter whether in real time or turn based, diguised or not, etc
Re: Using Garotte[message #351943 is a reply to message #351942] Sun, 07 January 2018 14:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sevenfm

 
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Registered:December 2012
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Garotte is only effective if enemy cannot see you at the moment of attack or he is lying collapsed and helpless so he cannot react, and since enemy always turns to you when melee attack starts, he immediately sees you so this condition is never true.



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Re: Using Garotte[message #351945 is a reply to message #351943] Sun, 07 January 2018 14:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
townltu

 
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Registered:December 2017
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sevenfm wrote on Sun, 07 January 2018 14:34
Garotte is only effective if enemy cannot see you at the moment of attack or he is lying collapsed and helpless so he cannot react, and since enemy always turns to you when melee attack starts, he immediately sees you so this condition is never true.

I rarely use or get hit by flashbangs, do they blind the victim without dropping him/her?
In case they may allow 100% succes on standing target.
Re: Using Garotte[message #351947 is a reply to message #351945] Sun, 07 January 2018 14:55 Go to previous message
sevenfm

 
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Registered:December 2012
Location: Under the Mountain
townltu wrote on Sun, 07 January 2018 17:47
I rarely use or get hit by flashbangs, do they blind the victim without dropping him/her?
In case they may allow 100% succes on standing target.

Yes, they can blind the target, also pepper spray should work for that too (but enemy soldier can wear sun goggles or other protective stuff).
I never tested though how garotte works on blind enemies.



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