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Enemy stands up after 'cowering in fear'[message #356373] Thu, 10 January 2019 11:27 Go to next message
Applegong

 
Messages:8
Registered:December 2018
Hello, I'd like to report a bug in v 1.13 Build 18.11.01 Revision 8633

An enemy character stands upright after a shot makes him 'cower in fear'.

The video of the moment can be seen here:



Thank you!

[Updated on: Thu, 10 January 2019 21:35] by Moderator

Re: Enemy stands up after 'cowering in fear'[message #356406 is a reply to message #356373] Sun, 13 January 2019 19:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
townltu

 
Messages:358
Registered:December 2017
Location: here
Just to bump this thread and ensure that it does not drop under the radar,
as it is almost certainly a bug,
which btw was already posted by Parkan 2018Oct08
Re: Enemy stands up after 'cowering in fear'[message #356408 is a reply to message #356406] Sun, 13 January 2019 22:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Marco
Messages:4
Registered:January 2019
Location: Brazil
Not just the enemy, but I've had my own soldiers get up after cowering too, to my horror big grin
Re: Enemy stands up after 'cowering in fear'[message #356442 is a reply to message #356408] Thu, 17 January 2019 03:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ZedJA2

 
Messages:175
Registered:January 2018
Just had Raffi do this after an elite in N Drassen fired a burst from an Agram2000 at him and miss. He had been crouching, and had exactly the right APs left to fire one shot. The enemy fired during the enemy turn, I had just left Raffi the points in-case he got an interrupt, which he did not.

1) The game still recognized that it takes 30 AP in the 100 AP system for him to move forward one tile. So, technically the game seems to see him as prone.
2) The animation frame he is shown in, is slightly pointing downwards to the ground, as if he was standing and shooting at the ground in front of him.
3) I haven't tried moving him yet, I presume it will cost 30 AP to enter that tile, but I'll update and try that next.

Maybe although it says he is cowering, he is getting ready to flee LOL. Who knows? But yep this happened in latest 8646 exe build, to Raffi.

UPDATE: Although it thought he was cowering, using the R key twice brought him up to running stance with no AP costs, so there stance is unclear in actuality. The yellow figurine for showing where you will go shows as prone and the cost shows as 30 ap for that tile, but you can switch by R key to Running and it costs no AP, so the game is confused about his actual stance.

[Updated on: Thu, 17 January 2019 04:46]

Re: Enemy stands up after 'cowering in fear'[message #356443 is a reply to message #356442] Thu, 17 January 2019 05:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ZedJA2

 
Messages:175
Registered:January 2018
POSSIBLE RELATED ISSUE:

Hurl was PRONE, tried to HEAL HIMSELF in 8646. RESULT: He BEGINS HEALING, THEN CROUCH STEPS FORWARD ONE TILE DIAGONALLY and CANCELS REST OF HEAL. Seems possible that any task given to a PRONE MERC, may make it change stance. Not sure, but curious result. Or perhaps attempting to change stance due to a task results in some odd movement results in the current code.

If I make Hurl crouch manually first, then Healing works correctly. It was also true that Hurl was near 2 trees using those as cover to his right flank and he was pointing diagonally to the top of the screen.

[Updated on: Thu, 17 January 2019 05:47]

Re: Enemy stands up after 'cowering in fear'[message #356911 is a reply to message #356443] Thu, 07 March 2019 20:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
navaroe

 
Messages:79
Registered:August 2012
Looks to me like the characters cycle through certain stances. Both enemy and mercs alike, all of them - not just single bugged one.

Just lost whole roof hiding squad because one of them got sprayed-at and they all started standing up, attracting even more fire... this renders game unplayable may be until you get "expendables" (militia) :\
Re: Enemy stands up after 'cowering in fear'[message #357415 is a reply to message #356911] Sat, 25 May 2019 17:36 Go to previous message
Uriens

 
Messages:333
Registered:July 2006
With expendables (militia) things can get even worse.
Because AI is apparently oblivious in situation when there is a friendly unit in front of him, it often decides to use 'suppression fire' behind your mercs or other militia causing either massive damage/death or already mentioned suppression effect. This is apparently poorly implemented feature because AI likes to use that suppression fire from far away and it tends to cause more 'friendly' fire casualties then causing actual damage to enemy. The situation is not better on large maps from AIMNAS either.
Both 'stand up' bug and friendly fire issue stick out as biggest problems in this game currently.
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