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Characters you want to keep/return[message #3696] Fri, 10 September 2004 15:17 Go to next message
CCKeane

 
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I say MD, Bull, Barry, Trevor, Razor, Haywire. I'd like most of the others to stay, of course, but one of the cool things about JA2 was all the NEW people, and I'm sure new people in JA3 will be awesome as well.
If the games is going to take place after JA2, as JA2 took place after JA, I think some Mercs will have to go, like Hitman, Len, Gus or Red. (All are AWESOME, but I don't think they can really keep them, as they're all aging.) Who do you think will be lost?
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3697] Sat, 11 September 2004 00:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Doc Croc

 
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Fortunately it's only a game so there is always a chance that older guys like len, Red, and Gus will stick around for a while. My thougts on who should stay are Wolf, Grunty, Gasket, Gaston, Barry, Shadow, and Gus. As for mercs that they can kill off, any of the locals (especially Ira), Raider, Meltdown, and Thor. I have nothing against those three except for thier voices.
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3698] Sat, 11 September 2004 04:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CCKeane

 
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I LOVED the locals. Great flavor, good fix-em-uppers, and FREE. (Usually.)
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3699] Sat, 11 September 2004 05:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Doc Croc

 
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The only locals I liked were Dimitri and Carlos. Mostly because Dimitri really seems to perform and I love Carlos' fatalistic attitude. Smile Ira, Shank, and Hamous really bug me though.
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3700] Sat, 11 September 2004 07:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CCKeane

 
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And Maddog? AND MADDOG!! Maddog alone was reason to buy the game. Miguel was good, Ira can learn, Hamous sucks, true, but Shank can...Shank sucks too, but still, Locals rule.
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3701] Sun, 12 September 2004 01:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Maddog

 
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I really wish that Maddog will be in AIM (okay, I'd rather MERC for him) and that Haywire, Razor, Gasket, Shadow, Reaper, Magic and Thor will stay. These are my top hopes.
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3702] Sun, 12 September 2004 02:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The NumbNuts

 
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Location: Keuruu, Finland

I don't want any of the A.I.M mebers to go away Very Happy
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3703] Sun, 12 September 2004 03:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Maddog

 
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I do, though none specially. (I don't want Meltdown to go; I wanna shoot her again Wink )
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3704] Sun, 12 September 2004 03:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
slayer

 
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I enjoy the psycho mercs even though they can be hard to handle. I'm sure this will not be a popular position to take but I would like to see that man hating crazy b*tch BUZZ (with her original JA2 stats) return. She provides you with excellent marksmanship at a affordable price in the beginning of the game.
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3705] Mon, 13 September 2004 05:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Maddog

 
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I know one who I definitely want to stay: BIFF! Very Happy I love Biff! Many probably disagrees with me, but I think Biff is great. Very Happy
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3706] Mon, 13 September 2004 21:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
El_slapper

 
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Registered:March 2001
Location: Taverny, France
I always liked Flo's touch... Not easy to handle in combat, but that's part of the challenge, no? Plus she is the first one ever that granted me a "special death" anim, eploding the chest of a bad guy in Chitzena with a HP out of its type85(I know, that was unlikely...). So I always have a special thought towards her.

I always expect something special from her, even if "special" is usually counter-productive Wink :silly:

Finally, hard work to make her into a killing machine(she reached MKS 86 in one of my games) is really rewarding for a RPG-style game. You don't have that kind of pleasure with Shadows. It is another gameplay...
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3707] Tue, 14 September 2004 00:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Doc Croc

 
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I like Flo too, espcially once I took the time to train her up to 85 health. Using top shelf soldiers like Shadow is fun (he is another favorite) but I fully agree that there is something damn satisfying about taking someone with poor stats and building them up.
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3708] Tue, 14 September 2004 23:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Maddog

 
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I agree. I always rather the MERC mercs. And of them, the worst ones. Though it's kinda bad, when you take Flo, you can't take Razor, and when you take Biff, you can't take Razor or Haywire (and Haywire's my top favourite!).
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3709] Wed, 15 September 2004 13:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
magnum
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Registered:March 2000

One of my favorite things in JA2 was randomly finding old JA characters around Arulco. They don't necessarily have to bring everyone back as an AIM merc, but it'd be cool to see most of the favorites back in some capacity, as NPCs or hireables.
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3710] Wed, 15 September 2004 13:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Doc Croc

 
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I would love to run into more JA1 characters in JA3D and JA3. Well, especially Spike, Kelly, Doc, and Gary. Maybe even Elio or the other metaviren guides as well.
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3711] Thu, 16 September 2004 04:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Maddog

 
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Hamous as a hired gun of the bad side! That'd be cool! And then we'd have the Roachburn's (expect poor Leon) and some other old JA1 chars.
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3712] Thu, 16 September 2004 06:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tyco

 
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Registered:September 2001
Location: Be'er Sheva, Israel
Bring back Spam!! Either through MERC (very likely) or as an RPC.

Yes! Im a secret Spam lover, and im coming out of the closet!
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3713] Thu, 16 September 2004 06:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Doc Croc

 
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Spam seems like prime M.E.R.C. material to me and he had pretty damn good stats. I mean a health 85, wis 88, agl 97, dex 79, mrks 78, and 75 in mechanical add up to a decent soldier. And since Jagged Alliance is all about what mercs like or hate other mercs, he'd be perfect. I mean there could be several Aim veterans who hate him and for getting Snake killed and a few who think he isn't that bad. Smile
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3714] Thu, 16 September 2004 12:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gideon

 
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Registered:February 2003
Location: Uppsala/Sweden

Vinny!! I want Vinny!! Coolest damn character in the whole series.
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3715] Thu, 16 September 2004 23:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Doc Croc

 
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Vinny was the man! Well, until he grabbed all of my cash and ran off. I really miss that about the first game, mercs stealing cash and running off at night, psycho mercs killing other mercs while they sleep, and the simple joys of what your teammates say when you grab them. Very Happy
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3716] Fri, 17 September 2004 04:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Maddog

 
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Vinny's just cool! I liked Vinny a lot. But Skitz would be cool to have too. Or then we'd find the jail where Reuban is locked up and we have to release him for some kind of info... now, I'd call that cool! Very Happy
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3717] Fri, 17 September 2004 06:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sigma

 
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Registered:January 2003
Location: Lahti, Finland

Oh yeah. Vinny was my choice allways.

Back in the days when I was young.... and so on.... I usually started with Vinny, Snake, Smoke, Ice, Jimmy and the rest would be whoever I could get or suits my purposes and so on.

So, what I
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3718] Fri, 17 September 2004 21:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Maddog

 
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Dunno what happened to Vinny, Snake was shot and I think Smoke blew himself up, Ice is back and Jimmy's imprisoned. Most likely it will be Vinny, but I think he did something real bad to AIM, so he wasn't coming back. Of your thoughts, Icei s still avaliable for duty.
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3719] Sat, 18 September 2004 01:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Doc Croc

 
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Vinny was busted on racketeering charges or something like that. Smile There are some really good mercenaries in JA2, but the game never had quite the appeal to me that the first one does. Now don't get me wrong, I am addicted to JA2 and go into withdrawals if I don't get my daily fix, but the character seem to have lost their quirkiness. Ivan was much more fun back when he only spoke Russian, there were more weird things you could do in the game, and I seem to remember the original game boasting hundreds of lines of dialog with more than 60 Mercs. I just hope that JA3 gives us something more: The game play, depth, and new soldiers of JA2, the personalities and quirky fun of JA1, and a healthy dose of new content.
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3720] Sat, 18 September 2004 04:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gideon

 
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Registered:February 2003
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Quote:
Originally posted by Maddog:
Dunno what happened to Vinny, Snake was shot and I think Smoke blew himself up, Ice is back and Jimmy's imprisoned. Most likely it will be Vinny, but I think he did something real bad to AIM, so he wasn't coming back. Of your thoughts, Icei s still avaliable for duty.
Like said above, Vinny was fired for dealing with illegal stuff. Otherwise, his career in the A.I.M. was great and he was a pretty popular man, so I think that if he got his act together(NOT) they should take him back.
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3721] Sat, 18 September 2004 05:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sigma

 
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Registered:January 2003
Location: Lahti, Finland

@Maddog: yeah, I knew Ice was still availableble, hence the words "Naturally we still have Ice, cooler than ever, and may he stay forever!"...

But anyway, gladly I just got Deadly Games, so I can relive my memories with the whole gang, and correct the fact that I never did finish the game...
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3722] Sat, 18 September 2004 05:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Maddog

 
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Me neither.

But JA1 or DG never appealed me as much as JA2 did. Bad graphics, bad gameplay, the game isn't really so good. The characters are good and the editor in DG, but I can't say that the game is really good. At least the original version of JA1.
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3723] Mon, 20 September 2004 03:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SSFSX17

 
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Registered:November 2003
Location: California
Ivan. To me, Ivan is the SYMBOL and ICON of all JA mercs! Ivan is even more the symbol of AIM than even Gus, Magic, or Scully could ever hope to be!

Fox and Wolf. They're both really cool!

Raven and Raider. I like Raven a lot, and Raider's teaching abilities work pretty well for my playing style.

Fidel, just because he's one of the last "unstable" people left in AIM and he's a JA1 original.

Scope and Lynx. I'm an accuracy freak. Scope and Lynx are also both very nice people.

Ira. For some reason, I just like the way she talks.

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Here's some mercs who should NOT come back:

Meltdown. She gets on my nerves... a LOT. Sure, the other "unstable" mercs are pretty evil, but Meltdown's manner of speech is just downright painful.

Dr. Q. I'm a Chinese-American, and I hate the Jet Li stereotype. If they want to put a Chinese guy in the game with a funny accent, they need to at least base the stereotype off of a Hong Kong movie about gangsters, druglords, and the Triads. =)
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3724] Fri, 08 October 2004 18:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Corporal Clegg
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Registered:October 2004
Location: Belarus

Yeah. Ivan is the best. It was only merc in JA who were in team from the begining till the end. Without him it would be another game. And in JA2 I've never played without him..
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3725] Fri, 08 October 2004 19:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Khor1255

 
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Registered:August 2003
Location: Pleasantville, NJ
I sort of feel that way about Len. But I think forcing me to use another character may not be the worse thing in the world.

By the way Clegg, how's that wooden leg?
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3726] Mon, 11 October 2004 20:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Corporal Clegg
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Registered:October 2004
Location: Belarus

Leg was eaten by bark beatles Smile

In fact it's nice to see here someone who knows....
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3727] Mon, 18 October 2004 05:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Leon
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Registered:September 2003
Location: Mesquita RJ

I thingh some Roachburns should return , specially Leon ( although he have died burned in his trailler ) .
I thingh Fidel , Sidney , Ivan, Igor , Scope and Blood , should be the ones to stay on the game , and Tex should return to AIM .

GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE
PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3728] Mon, 18 October 2004 20:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The NumbNuts

 
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Registered:May 2004
Location: Keuruu, Finland

Ivan, Igor, Shadow, Lynx, Razor, Reaper, Fidel atleast these must stay.
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3729] Tue, 19 October 2004 00:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sigma

 
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Registered:January 2003
Location: Lahti, Finland

It would be interesting to see some of the lamer/sissier mercs from JA1 back, just to see if they have grown some balls during the past years... Hurl would be a good example of this.
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3730] Tue, 19 October 2004 01:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rev1

 
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Registered:October 2002
Location: Louisville, KY
I never could figure out how to play Larry to keep him from going down the tubes. I think that any merc that gets created, even if they have some flaws or weaknesses, ought to be created in such a way that they can be pretty good in the long run.

Having said that, aside from Ivan, Shadow, and Lynx, my favorite characters tend to be the quirky characters. For instance, I loved Reuben in JA2: UC. ... Would love to see him pop up somewhere.
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3731] Tue, 19 October 2004 01:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rev1

 
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Location: Louisville, KY
Oh, and Skitz... Loved his comments...

I know that the character creation is a major component of developing a game, and can be one of the most difficult, since you've gotta have real people to do the lines, but I think that having more mercs in general would certainly add to the game. Perhaps there could even be a core group of "bad" mercs that get a kick out of killing civilians, and get bored if you don't kill some. ... Maybe a bit more in terms of rivalries too. For instance, the AIM mercs will start to get annoid if you take on too many mercs that aren't professionals. ...

One last thought, instead of just having Mike come after you late in the game, have a real hit squad gunning for you. ... a full team of high level, high stat mercs that won't take your money, and would burst into a scene in which you're already tied up battling 32 bad guys in a sector, hitting you from behind unexpectedly...

(As a real added bonus, create a pool of bad mercs to draw from, and give them enough lines that they could be recruited and used in future mods as recruitable, but evil mercenaries.)
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3732] Tue, 19 October 2004 07:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Khor1255

 
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I think Rev1 is touching on some real advances that might be made in terms of character interaction for the next Ja game. But instead of just 'evil mercs' I would like to see a conditions modifyer that might enable some mercs to change alliance in the middle of the game. You could; for instance, be able to bribe or just plain talk an enemy into working for you or have some of you're mercs temporarily go awol or even join the enemy. These situations would be very rare but imagine the ammount of diversity and challenge that even the thought of deserters would bring.
All throughout warfare desertion and traitorism has been a factor so why not have it as a remote possibility in Ja3? The good side would be that you could perhaps sway an enemy's allegiance and have him either quit the campaign or even join you're side. Again I'd only like to see this in rare occurances and think some of the most proffesional mercs (Len springs to mind) might be immune to this. There might even be a 'Hidden' trait that deals with this feature on a percentage scale or even conditional modifyers such as how many mercs the would be traitor dislikes in a team (the more there were in you're team the more likely his desertion), how motivated by money the individual is, etc.

Also, I'd like to see a few more mercs with 'social problems' akin to Roachburn's but with different results. For instance, some psychos might go 'Berzerk' and start advancing foreward and shooting on their own. Based on their level this might be a blind charge or a surgical strike. More likely, some mercs could just be homicidal, shooting one of you're team they really hate (in rare cases), picking off civilians that get in the way or shooting enemys you either capture or are trying to bribe.
Oh, and I didn't even start on the ability to capture/interogate enemies.
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3733] Tue, 19 October 2004 09:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rev1

 
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Location: Louisville, KY
Wow. Good ideas .... All of them.
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3734] Tue, 26 October 2004 14:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Critter

 
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Registered:October 2004
Location: KY, USA
Nails... damn I love Nails!

And Tex from UC has to be in JA3, one of the best personalities ever created, and a blast to have in yr team!

Lynx, Buzz and Meltdown (I love playing as an Auto Weap (Expert) whos Psychotic with these two), Maddog added in there as well... I do like Dmitri, but doubt he would survive on his own between JA2 and JA3.

Perhaps Scope and Shadow.

Oh, and howdy Rev1.
Re: Characters you want to keep/return[message #3735] Tue, 26 October 2004 16:23 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Rev1

 
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Registered:October 2002
Location: Louisville, KY
For obvious reasons, I'd like to see Rev Clyde Potter worked back into the game. He could stay a former merc, but maybe be somehow involved in a plot.

I assume he was in the original JA, which I haven't played... Was he any good?
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