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Re: Most underrated merc?[message #147294]
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Fri, 29 June 2007 07:02
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no_clip |
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Registered:June 2007 |
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Igor by far.
1) Some of the most hilarious quotes in the game
2) Stealth/Night-ops makes him a beast on night missions, great spotter
3) Cheap early on with great wisdom. You can bring his marksman skill up to 90 extremely fast. I also trained up his med/explosion early on and now he is decent all-arounder.
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Re: Most underrated merc?[message #147296]
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Fri, 29 June 2007 07:31
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Lucas |
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Registered:June 2006 Location: Londrina, PR, Brazil |
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B-B-Bubba... IRRC... He fixes stuff faster than Barry, he gets the 1.5 extra LOS on nighttime that Night Ops mercs get, although he only have H2H skill and he shoots better than his MRK says...
Flo... Learns fast and since she works with weapons, she can deal guns more efficiently than most mercs of JA2, for example, she can sell weapons at higher prices (around +30%) to other dealers, like Tony...
Larry... If you manage to keep him sober (like me), he's a good doc + bomb dude with stealth skill...
Haywire... He shoots better than his MRK suggests and he learns faster than Razor...
Cougar Good bargain, nuff said...
Yeah, I'm one of the biggest clients of the More Economical Recruitment Center...
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Re: Most underrated merc?[message #148019]
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Wed, 04 July 2007 16:46
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Edvardo |
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Registered:July 2007 Location: Stockholm |
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DragoonI'd agree with Azazel... Igor simply rocks! And he is SO cheap. second that
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Re: Most underrated merc?[message #150796]
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Thu, 26 July 2007 17:36
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Ledtim |
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Registered:June 2007 |
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Quote:B-B-Bubba... IRRC... He fixes stuff faster than Barry, he gets the 1.5 extra LOS on nighttime that Night Ops mercs get, although he only have H2H skill and he shoots better than his MRK says...
Bubba doesn't get a NO bonus. Also, NO bonus is 1 per trait lvl, not 1.5. Also, unlike what I've heard some sites say, night ops doesn't get more out of night vision goggles than non-NO people do. Tested on vanilla JA2.
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Re: Most underrated merc?[message #150886]
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Fri, 27 July 2007 11:10
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Ledtim |
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Registered:June 2007 |
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NO = Night-Ops.
That should have been easy enough to understand considering the fact NO is a common enough acronym for Night-Ops.
I could say stop spreading false rumours please, but I won't because I am that nice.
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Re: Most underrated merc?[message #150952]
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Fri, 27 July 2007 19:56
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shikaka |
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Registered:July 2007 Location: Hungary |
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Most underrated merc?
underrated by AIM/MERC:
- Igor (almost too low price for one of the top performers)
- Danny (he only needs marksmanship training and a few level ups to be a monster. Too cheap)
- Grizzly (one of the most useful soldiers, for only 6000/2 weeks?)
underrated by players:
- Larry.
Definietly a bargain. (level 4, medic, bomb dude for a small fee of 9800 per two weeks?) can understand that few people think he is a risk with his drug problem. I think he is the best buy from the MERC roster (a better buy than Numb and Cougar IMO)
- La Malice.
OK, he has low wisdom, but all the stats stats necessery in combat are 80+. His personality is a bit boring tough... With 50+ wisdom, you can't train his support abilities easily, but he makes a good front line soldier.
- Red.
level 4 bomb dude with teaching. Cheap too (10000/2 weeks). Besides Larry and Hitman, he has the best price/level ratio. With a bit of training he will be a good shot, militia trainer, a backup mech and a 1st class demo expert...
- Bull.
1 hit with a crowbar causes enemy soldiers (even greyshirts!) to faint. 1 hit, 1 man down! He is a good backup 'lockpicker', can carry lots of heavy stuff (Grizzly usually carries the mortar, Bull the mortar shells). His agility s.cks but there are a few 'anchored' enemies where he can easily get that above 85. He is cheap too (and has a good voice).
- Barry.
A good buy. I think he has the best wisdom/price ratio in the game. By the middle of the game he is a good mech, top lockpicker, top demo expert and marksman. It is true that he sleeps too much, and is quite boring. (and as a hungarian, I miss that he doesn't have a hungarian accent...)
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Re: Most underrated merc?[message #152586]
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Fri, 10 August 2007 18:06
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Houdini |
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Registered:August 2007 Location: Arulco |
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(first post)
In my current game I'm using IMP (Expert Lockpicking 75 MRK, 65 MEC to start), Igor, Grunty and Hitman to start. I picked up Ira then moved to Drassen. Left Ira to train militia at the airport, took the middle section and left hitman to train militia there. Took the mine then started working on the SAM site. Hired Flo and Gumpy once the email came and have seen marked improvements across the board.
Flo is up around 15-18 agi just sneaking around, Gumpy's gone up about 8 MRK and even Igor got some AGI/DEX/MRK training (I like to sneak him around behind enemy lines at night and take out enemies one by one who are sitting there waiting for my other mercs to appear). Definately pick Igor, Flo and Gumpy as underrated.
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Re: Most underrated merc?[message #161918]
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Thu, 18 October 2007 21:26
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Kensuke |
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Registered:May 2007 |
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Well, if we're talking about the cheap "lower-end" Mercs I'd have to definitely say Igor by a mile.
Hands down. He is a god damned killing machine that has seriously under priced himself. He only gets better as the game progresses and is my point man. He's got two great skills (night ops, and stealth). I've already heard people bitching about the fact that by the time you get around to hiring Ivan, his little cousin is better than him.
Runners up would be Barry and Grunty. Barry is a great value as an explosives and lock picker (two traits useful to have in any team). His wisdom also allows him to be trained up as a mechanic rapidly (he repairs all my weapons). He's not terribly bad in combat either, and gets along with everybody. His only failing is he can't swim (big deal). Grunty gets along with and works well with the Russians (he also has Night Ops).
I'm having reasonably good success with MD in my current game. He's the second cheapest AIM behind Bull. 80 medical, and his wisdom allows him to be trained up fairly fast. I'm sure Danny is better, but in some of the higher difficulty levels money becomes a concern right off the bat. As I get more money, I'll probably switch him out for Danny.
Steroid is nice *if* you don't like Fox or the Russians. Unfortunately, I do, so I don't use him anymore.
Overrated would be Buns. Yeah, her Marksmanship is good, but she hates Fox and Reaper. This means she can rot in hell for all I care.
Bull is next to useless in my mind, except for maybe the occasional need to go h2h or as a mortar mule paired off with Grizzly . Shank *is* useless. At least Flo can be used to buy/sell weapons, and Ira can be left behind to train militia. Shank can throw things....ugh.....
- John
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Re: Most underrated merc?[message #181308]
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Mon, 14 April 2008 08:32
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Captain Taipan |
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Registered:December 2007 Location: Western Australia |
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I think Miguel is one of the most overlooked & underrated Mercs and here's why:
In Vanilla, you don't get him on the team till you're almost 3/4 of the way through the game. However, he's awesome [and free]. Night ops and dam good at interupts plus some serious time out in the bush killing people and pretty soon he's a veritable Terminator! Even Carlos isn't too bad either and again a bit under-rated. He's better at supporting Miguel with a good scoped rifle as Miguel sneaks forward with throwing knives and an AKM.
In Wildfire you get Miguel nice and early which, tyo me at least, made more sense and he becomes even more deadly. Him with my IMP [N.O & Stealth] pretty much go out on 2 man patrols to thin out the numbers of roving army patrols. Very effective.
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Re: Most underrated merc?[message #188982]
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Wed, 18 June 2008 01:39
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Rakham |
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Registered:June 2008 Location: Belgium |
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Ira !
Egg face and over-irritating voice but:
*You cant get cheaper than free!
*good militia trainer
*back-up medic
*She has low Str, but its the quickest and easiest stat to raise.
*Her wisdom goes up the roof quick when training militia
(when no militia to train, just have her practice explosives/mech/medic and it goes has fast)
*Low Mark,but if you let her shoot from the begining she will get decent early enough, and with her high wisdom she will learn quick from any sharpshooter too.
Other than her i'd say Buns,
shitty accent/attitude/personnality and hated by many other mercs,
but she's dirty cheap, very fast learner and potential sharpshooter.
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Re: Most underrated merc?[message #188987]
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Wed, 18 June 2008 02:14
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AZAZEL |
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Registered:February 2004 |
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That's OK, sargeant. It's precisely because she is THE underrated (for you too) that you use her like that. IF it wasn't for that ear thing that fills the glass...you'd use her as your wife,wouldn't you? Things being as they are, you use Ira as a mule.
She's "arulcan" anyway, so feel free to carry on: we're in JA2, not life.
Me, I remain with Igor. He's got everything a man should have, except the "right birth" and that thing called money that should accompany the very intention of hiring him. But hey, I payed his uncle too, and always in advance. And dang! not even that makes him loose temper. You pay him without uncle and you find out it's even worse: money loose meaning, both for employee and employer.
Morale:frienship's too expensive for real commanders.War too.
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Re: Most underrated merc?[message #188994]
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Wed, 18 June 2008 03:31
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KoTT |
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Messages:50
Registered:May 2008 Location: Cali |
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yup. thats like her purpose in life when I play. I always move her in after I capture a sector, and use her to train militia. and then, I tend to send her to the next sector, call for reinforcements and run away. "Attack my minions!" But if my actual team if fighting in the city, I use her to carry ammo from the airport.
I wouldnt say Ira is underrated for me, I just dont use her in combat because my last game, she trains faster then Reaper, Maddog, and IMP combined...
In fact, I rarely if ever use female mercs, tbh. I used to use Fox or Spider as medics, but then they got replaced by Danny - imo the best medic you can find. Then Raven got replaced by Reaper, as imo he's all around better. And Buzz just got kicked off my team cause it seems like she also doesnt like Ivan, or maybe all guys(?). Then my usual lineup - Ivan, Fidel, Maddog, IMP, and Igor.
edit: another good use I recently discovered for her, is train my dumb merc's wisdom. Like, Maddog's for instance. she actually brings it up quick.
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Re: Most underrated merc?[message #190399]
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Wed, 09 July 2008 21:27
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KoTT |
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Messages:50
Registered:May 2008 Location: Cali |
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Jawz IIFor me that has to be Razor, in my early games, I mostly used him and Haywire as mules.
More recent years I found out his marksmanship goes up pretty fast despite him being dumb as a rock (Low wisdom).
it seems like some of the dumb mercs actually improve very quickly. Like I had, Maddog, for instance go up from 66 to 87 Mrk taking 2 cities. And he levels quick, too. He is in fact higher level then my IMP, even though he has less kills, and by the end of taking Cambria's sam site, he is level 8, same as Reaper.
But Hamous on the other hand starts off just about useless, and he stays that way.
You guys keep saying Shank is useless. Well, he's actually not too bad. He is my grenadier in training. The only huge downside is his terrible physical traits. Well, if you have him drag a mortar and some shells (300+% load) around for a few weeks he goes up quick. (He, Hamous, and Dynamo make up my artillery guys...cause they are just otherwise useless at this point in game.) And then Ira can train his agility and dexterity reasonably fast, too.
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