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Most underrated merc?[message #44739] Fri, 18 June 2004 20:04 Go to next message
Lasakon

 
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Registered:February 2004
Danny would be my pick. He has great health and agility. He's a fantastic learner. All around the best doctor money can buy.
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44740] Fri, 18 June 2004 22:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Apollo

 
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Registered:November 2003
Location: England
Agreed

I've just started using him more often, and he's amazing. Currently got him on point with two fully upgraded Mac 10s, my IMP (AW expert) with a C7, Iggy with the G11 and heavy weps and trevor with the CAWS for locks and explosives. Quite a nice combination, I must say!

Apollo
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44741] Sat, 19 June 2004 13:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Larynx

 
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Registered:April 2003
Danny isn't underrated in my book, but I think you're right that he doesn't get nearly the recognition he deserves. When I've used him (hiring him from the beginning), he almost makes the game too easy after awhile, and he hogs most of the kills so the other mercs don't get much experience.

How about Red? It seems like nobody ever talks about him. He's cheap, and he starts at level 4 with pretty good marksmanship. With both explosives and electronics skill, he can disarm any trap. He makes a good mechanic with a little practice, and he's a good militia trainer. You wouldn't want him for your point man, but he's very useful for what he costs.

I think Bubba is also very much underrated - probably because people think he is annoying. He is also very inexpensive and starts at level 4 with good marksmanship. He is extremely strong, so he is good for carrying mortars and other heavy things; and he's a decent mechanic. His low wisdom doesn't seem to have much effect on learning from combat experience; I think it's more of an issue with other kinds of training.
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44742] Sun, 20 June 2004 14:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Khor1255

 
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Registered:August 2003
Location: Pleasantville, NJ
Have to admit, I've never used Danny. I don't remember why really (perhaps he doesn't get along with one of my 'essential' mercs).
My vote would go for Len. I know most people are very irritated with the fact he doesn't gain ability points or levels. I hate this as well but even when I didn't fix it with Proedit I found him useful till the end of the game. Bear in mind that his price never raises either.
Red sleeps way too much for me but is otherwise a very good pick.
I like Bubba a lot. He cracks me up. But since he has 0 Med I only use him when I have a personell shortage and this almost never happens nowadays.
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44743] Mon, 21 June 2004 20:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
AZAZEL

 
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Registered:February 2004
I'll have to vote Igor,for most underrated: good-great mrk,wisdom,great physical stats.
I don't use Proedit.But I must agree it's better to use it than punch cows, throw knifes at crows,use knife on the robot-waisted time.
Grunty is more useful though,he brings decent equipment,and night ops and heavy weapons,plus the fact he has the same colour as the rebels,make him a great hire.
Bubba,Buzz or "1-day Steroid-leaves tool kit and lockpicking kit" never make it in my teams.

Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44744] Thu, 13 January 2005 01:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
shadow

 
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Registered:January 2005
Location: Namibia
Spider. She learns extremely fast, and good at night ops and obviously a great medic. I got her up to 100 marksmanship in no time.
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44745] Thu, 13 January 2005 02:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Danirijeka

 
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Registered:November 2004
Location: Levico Terme, Italy
I'd agree with Azazel... Igor simply rocks! And he is SO cheap.
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44746] Thu, 13 January 2005 19:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
avoideverything

 
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Registered:January 2005
Location: UK
M.D.'s underrated in my books. With such a high widsom, he rocks once his marksmanship gets up there ... My best game ever in Unfinished Business was with just him and my IMP merc on Ironman. ... I thought that there had to be some kind of glitch - we blew through the game in no time flat.
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44747] Tue, 25 January 2005 11:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MagicJuggler

 
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Registered:January 2005
Maddog. He may be low-level and possess low Mrk, but once both are raised, he proves quite a powerhouse with his absurdly high AGI, DEX, and HT.
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44748] Tue, 25 January 2005 19:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
AZAZEL

 
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Registered:February 2004
Quote:
Originally posted by MagicJuggler:
Maddog. He may be low-level and possess low Mrk, but once both are raised, he proves quite a powerhouse with his absurdly high AGI, DEX, and HT.
Yup,nothing and nobody compares with him!But I don't think anyone underrates him.Usually trying to recruit him on day one.He-he...absurdly high...
By the way,ever tried to raise his wisdom,via plant-detrap mines then TNT?Even with EXPL at 99 and level 7 it's still an exploit!

Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44749] Tue, 25 January 2005 19:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DNA from the Lowlands

 
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Registered:July 2003
For me it's Buns, when I started playing JA2, I took her for her low-price, good MRK + Wisdom.
...But I can't recall the last time I hired her.
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44750] Tue, 25 January 2005 19:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
AZAZEL

 
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Registered:February 2004
Quote:
Originally posted by Lasakon:
Danny would be my pick. He has great health and agility. He's a fantastic learner. All around the best doctor money can buy.
I have to disagree.And not thinking only about Vince,who beats him (+ teaching ability,has explosives,mrk reaching 80 fast in the versions allowing knife throwing at crows,but very low AGI).
Dr.Q proved to be the fastest learner in my games,mainly because he has a trainable(with mines) explosives skill.Two levels of experience that can be gained this way more than compensate for the slightly lower health and agility(still over 85),don't you think?Plus he's also the only one amongst the doctors,I think,who beats cows-if you're into that kind of training,that is.

Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44751] Wed, 26 January 2005 11:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CCKeane

 
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Registered:September 2004
Location: Hoboken/Long Island

I like Red and Bull, neither have ever served me wrong. Red's a funny, funny guy and bull breaks things. Perfect.
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44752] Mon, 14 February 2005 13:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fightcancer

 
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Registered:February 2005
Location: USA
Ira.

She can do everything (Mec, Med, & Expl) plus she can train the other merc's very quickly since she is an expert of teaching. She has good wisdom and can excel in all areas. Best of all she's free.

In WF I have her and my IMP guy train til everything is 85. Then we hire Flo & Gumpy and train them.

Ira rocks!
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44753] Mon, 14 March 2005 05:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DaCheetah

 
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Location: New Mexico... Cleaner Tha...

@CCKeane
Plus, if you put them together you can make wicked Jaeger bombers... haha.

I think its either MD or Igor. They're both really cheap, but great to have along for the long haul.
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44754] Tue, 05 April 2005 02:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LordDario

 
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Registered:June 2001
Location: Washington, DC
Fun topic!

Given that Spider and Dr. Q have already been mentioned I am going to throw Grunty into the mix.

This guy is CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP, learns fast and is NO/Hvy Wpns. By end game he is on my main NO Squad with my IMP, Spider, Dr. Q and Wolf - all of whom learn fast, have NO and are amazing killers by mid game.
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44755] Tue, 05 April 2005 22:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DNA from the Lowlands

 
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Registered:July 2003
"Soopah !!", I call him Grunt-Starr every now and then.
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44756] Thu, 21 April 2005 13:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mike

 
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Registered:January 2000
Location: USA
Blood is very underratted in my book. He's saved dozens of mercs under my command.
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44757] Thu, 26 May 2005 22:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
minhtuan

 
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Registered:April 2005
Location: Vietnam
I just playing my first game, but I think Blood and Grunty is very good. I need to let Blood throw knife more to get "Great show!!"
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44758] Mon, 13 June 2005 14:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gunsgg

 
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Registered:September 2004
I don't go ANYWHERE without Nails on my team. His biker-dude personality cracks me up, he's good at opening locks, and can handle point. Nails and Wolf are constantly on my assault team.
He gripes about tunnels, but generally makes a mess of their occupants.
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44759] Tue, 12 July 2005 05:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Omega

 
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Registered:January 2004
Location: Peterborough, England

I also have to say MD, before i use to look at him and think "bah theres better medics out there" then in my most recent game i've given him a barret (DL mod) with a sniper\laser\R&S and he's racking up kills, also good for sneaking up behind people and removing their voice boxes Smile
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44760] Tue, 12 July 2005 06:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cagemonkey

 
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Registered:December 2001
Location: Sweden
Red, Grunty, Thor and Stephen.
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44761] Sat, 16 July 2005 16:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bastage

 
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Registered:December 2004
Location: Winnipeg, Canada
Barry improves fast, is cheap, great explosives. good mechanic and does locks. His voice "ees terrible" Gasket is a great mechanic for the money.
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44762] Sat, 16 July 2005 19:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mike

 
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Registered:January 2000
Location: USA
Quote:
Originally posted by Bastage:
Gasket is a great mechanic for the money.
Very good! He can become a decent shot too, given the chance.
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44763] Sat, 16 July 2005 23:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Omega

 
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Registered:January 2004
Location: Peterborough, England

Ever since JA2 demo i've NEVER liked gasket (or his accent for that matter, no offense to anyone with that accent) his 0 medical and "piss-poor" marksmanship has stoped me from hiring him, i may give him a chance though, what skill\s does he have?

I have to say that i think lynx is OVERrated..he has 99 mk but has missed point blank shots before..but thats not the only reason why
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44764] Sun, 17 July 2005 05:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dzeller

 
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Registered:February 2003
Location: USA
Even if they've already been mentioned, I'd say that Thor and Danny are definitely the most underrated mercs. They get XP so fast that by mid-game, they're both unstoppable killing machines.
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44765] Sun, 17 July 2005 11:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Khor1255

 
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Registered:August 2003
Location: Pleasantville, NJ
Thor is definately in there. Unfortunately since I always use Steroid (who qualifies for this catagory) I can't use Danny.
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44766] Mon, 18 July 2005 17:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mike

 
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Registered:January 2000
Location: USA
I think Gasket starts with about 86 mechanical. Not too bad for his cheap price.
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44767] Sat, 30 July 2005 23:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lyt.Ivans

 
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Registered:July 2005
Location: Malaysia, Kuala Lumpur

I hate biff the most... he is a true coward and plus all his stats bad.... i use him to up my medical skill only, not to battle with other, like some people said "some good for fighting, some good for dying" wahahahaha
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44768] Fri, 05 August 2005 09:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ramius

 
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Registered:August 2005
Location: Minneapolis, MN
I'm surprised no one's mentioned Meltdown yet: she's good at the beginning because of her ambidexterity and through to the end of the campaign because of her heavy weapons skills. A keeper!

Great wisdom (xp/trainable), good physical stats, funny over-the-top personality (maybe not for everyone!), great price!


Plenty of other great underdogs too: Barry, Stephen Rothman, Igor, Red... etc.-- but a number of you have already mentioned them!
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44769] Mon, 15 August 2005 02:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
AZAZEL

 
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Registered:February 2004
Quote:
Originally posted by Ramius:
I'm surprised no one's mentioned Meltdown
AZ wouldn't hire that one even if she payed him!

Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44770] Thu, 18 August 2005 23:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ash

 
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Registered:August 2005
Location: the Netherlands
Well a lot of people have mentioned him but Danny is probably the most underrated merc. His sucky MRK is no problem, ambidexterous mercs with good WIS always seem to get a shot in somewhere, so their MRK rises very quickly.
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44771] Mon, 22 August 2005 21:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
todanerd

 
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Registered:August 2005
Location: Taipei, Taiwan

definitely danny... give him two smg's and he'll rock the army of alruco in no time. his MRK increases so fast mid-game its astounding.
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44772] Wed, 07 September 2005 23:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Archie

 
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Registered:September 2005
Location: Great Britain
Grizzly is a solid member of my team. He's great for carrying the heavy gear and takes quite a kicking and keeps going. I tend to keep him at a distance and give use him as long range fire support which helps jack up his markmenship.

Danny was coming on great in my current game right up until he got blown away taking Alma! Oops!
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44773] Tue, 04 October 2005 08:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
noom

 
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Registered:October 2005
Dr. Q and Blood.
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44774] Tue, 04 October 2005 08:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gmonk

 
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Registered:April 2002
Location: Newfoundland, Canada
Haywire. Once his MRK gets up a bit he's a dab hand with a LMG and he's not afraid of anything. His morale is usually 'great' as long as he gets to shoot. Plus his 'kill laugh' is really funny.
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44775] Wed, 26 October 2005 04:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hawk

 
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Registered:November 2001
Razor!
...and Larry, if U can keep him sober!
I think I've figured it out: U can't give him medkits, and u have to let ither mercs pick up ALL loose alcohol ASAP in any sector his staying in.
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44776] Thu, 27 October 2005 01:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Annapolisjohn

 
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Registered:September 2003
Location: westminster, Maryland
Razor .... Excellent in throwing ... Shoots way above his Marksmanship # , Learns fast , cheap, and nobody that i use dislikes him so bad that they will quit....

I like Haywire as well ... has similar qualities
except for throwing ... Just had to take care of the personality contact with Sydney
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44777] Thu, 27 October 2005 01:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Annapolisjohn

 
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Registered:September 2003
Location: westminster, Maryland
I always use Steroid ... Although I dont care for his voice files... he is cheap when you need it ... marks goes up fast ... great mechanic & lock pick
Re: Most underrated merc?[message #44778] Thu, 27 October 2005 16:18 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Bastage

 
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Registered:December 2004
Location: Winnipeg, Canada
I feel safe with Blood around. He's a good medic, can do basic expolsives. He gets interupts galore and kills well.
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