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The mercs we love we hate![message #45712] Fri, 20 October 2006 19:52 Go to next message
Hexarar is currently offline Hexarar

 
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I think the topic says it all. This is about mercs you hate, and have DARN good time doing it!

When I finally realised how many people there are in the game that hate Buns/Buns hates, I joined in. I have tried to hire as many Buns-haters to same team with her. It's freakin' funny! Same goes to Flo.

Ira's voice acting is another thing. She's mostly left walking after others, coming to the scene just in time to train militia. My last playthrough, I think she still had that .38 and zero kills when I gave last punch to the queen.

I hated Numb, but then I decided to give him a shot in my Psycho Squad (Razor, Haywire, Buzz, Fidel, [can't remember] and him). When Buzz bursted him to bloody pulp and Haywire gave that comment... I just couldn't keep hating him!

Cougar's upbeat attitude is pretty annoying too. TEN-FOUR, CHARLIE! And Bubba's way of speaking. That guy is totally useless! (Imho)

Now, tell me, who do you love to hate?

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45713] Fri, 20 October 2006 20:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GOTH is currently offline GOTH

 
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Gasket, for sure. He

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45714] Sat, 21 October 2006 02:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DNA from the Lowlands is currently offline DNA from the Lowlands

 
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My team used to have Buns, Steriod since they were the cheapest good shots on the roster.
Ever since Fox got recruited, I listen to her...

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45715] Sat, 21 October 2006 09:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Marlboro Man

 
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Magic is the man, snapperhead. I can count on him to get the job done, no matter what. I have never ever lost him in a fire fight.

Len, gotta love that guy. Teamed with magic and Ice, there almost unstoppable.

About the only ones I don't like and it's not because there bad mercs, it's mainly there frickin voices. Raider for one, I cant stand that 10-4 and standing by. And Stephen, man I would love to punch his face, along with Thor.

Actually there not that bad. And I can at least mute them if I find them to grating on my nerves.

Other favs, Raven, Buzz, Larry, Miguel. And Nails.

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45716] Sat, 21 October 2006 09:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Khor1255 is currently offline Khor1255

 
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Raider's voice is like In Sync singing a Sabbath song. So incredibly annoying it keeps me from hiring an otherwise good merc.
Biff and Cougar always remind you of the kids who were so hard to like you didn't mind when people bullied them. If I didn't have Len always on my team I might be able to stand Couger's comments because he is otherwise a really good merc for the Speck crowd.
I've never used Meltdown. Lesbians are one thing but deisel dykes are really hard to stomach.

Nails annoys me but I would use him if he didn't insist on wearing that stupid leather jacket even when we have Spectra armour. And the high dollar mercs just make the game too easy to me so I usually forgo all mercs more expensive than Len until later in the game when I might recruit Trevor for hard lockpicking.

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45717] Sat, 21 October 2006 11:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lucas is currently offline Lucas

 
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You got my earrrrrrrrrrrrr.... ARRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.... Ira's voice simply makes me hurl!!! Mad

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45718] Sun, 22 October 2006 04:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ash is currently offline Ash

 
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I guess Ira will come up a lot. But I like her, always have. I dig smart chicks... Wink
I use her as a front line trainer, mule and least but not least a tour guide. I find her pretty useful, she's cheap and cheerful, always happy to lay the smackdown on the queen's troops.

I haven't used her for combat, ever. I should do that sometime.

Bubba is one of the few mercs I really hate. His 29 WIS, rascist attitude and stuttering are just annoying beyong belief. He truely is the crappiest merc you can get. Makes Biff and Flo look useful.

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45719] Mon, 23 October 2006 13:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wounded Ronin is currently offline Wounded Ronin

 
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Quote:
Originally posted by Khor1255:

I've never used Meltdown.
Ha! Meltdown is one of my all time favorites. I think she's a lot of fun; she reminds me a bit of Mamma Fratelli from "The Goonies". I always love having Meltdown on the team.

"Cough it up, bunnyballs!"

I wish someone in real life were cool enough to call me "bunnyballs".

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45720] Mon, 23 October 2006 13:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wounded Ronin is currently offline Wounded Ronin

 
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Originally posted by Ash:


Bubba is one of the few mercs I really hate. His 29 WIS, rascist attitude and stuttering are just annoying beyong belief. He truely is the crappiest merc you can get. Makes Biff and Flo look useful.
He's like a Louisiana cop, lol!

But, actually, I also really love Bubba. He's cheap, he's beefy, and he's got a wide range of skills. His MARK skill isn't super high but he seems to hit a lot anyway.

Bubba's a bargain! I use him a lot.

Plus, he's evil, so he'll do whatever you tell him to do.

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45721] Tue, 24 October 2006 09:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lucas is currently offline Lucas

 
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... Also he likes Buzz and his talkin' problem is funny also Wink B-b-bingo hehehehe...

Bubba (after seeing a crepitus) - Chilicake, what kinda of big douchebag is this???

Buzz - It reminds me of Lynx :biglaugh:

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45722] Tue, 24 October 2006 10:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Marlboro Man

 
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Bubba is an ex-Alabama state prison guard. A place that you would never want to be.

Meltdown is a good merc, I used to use her alot in vanilla. And she is not a dyke, she is married with several kids. I can only imagine the kids. FUBAR !

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45723] Wed, 25 October 2006 01:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ash is currently offline Ash

 
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Originally posted by Marlboro Man:
Meltdown is a good merc, I used to use her alot in vanilla. And she is not a dyke, she is married with several kids. I can only imagine the kids. FUBAR !
How do you know that?

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45724] Wed, 25 October 2006 01:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Marlboro Man

 
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I thought I read it somewhere, or was in a discription. I just looked around at all discriptions, I didn't find it again. So I guess I am wrong. Or maybe it was in one of her speeches or something.

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45725] Wed, 25 October 2006 02:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GOTH is currently offline GOTH

 
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I know that Scope has Kids, but Meltdown? Maybe she has a pair Uzis as kids? :biglaugh:

We could do a small test: take both Meltdown and Scope to Brenda the dyke from Sam Mona :placard:

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45726] Wed, 25 October 2006 02:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bob_Marley is currently offline Bob_Marley

 
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Originally posted by Marlboro Man:
I thought I read it somewhere, or was in a discription. I just looked around at all discriptions, I didn't find it again. So I guess I am wrong. Or maybe it was in one of her speeches or something.
I think that was the description from UC.

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45727] Wed, 25 October 2006 05:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Put Meltdown and Stephen together in the same squad and soon you will find out about Meltdown

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45728] Wed, 25 October 2006 06:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Marlboro Man

 
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Meltdown- Hey bunny balls, I got your smorGASHbord right here ! :blah:

Stephen- I think I am going to be sick. :puke:

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45729] Wed, 25 October 2006 07:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jack Funk is currently offline Jack Funk

 
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I mute Ira, but use her as a soldier at first and then a militia trainer/mule.

Buns is seriously annoying. I recently tried to use her (wanted to see what Grunty did), but it wasn't worth it, especially since she doesn't like Fox. Fox and Wolf are always on my team.

As noted Raider and Thor are great mercs with annoying voices.

@Hexarar - Did Buzz snap out and blast Numb on her own? Or did you make her do it? I've never seen a merc attack another one spontaneously.

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45730] Wed, 25 October 2006 11:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wounded Ronin is currently offline Wounded Ronin

 
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Originally posted by Marlboro Man:
Meltdown- Hey bunny balls, I got your smorGASHbord right here ! :blah:

Stephen- I think I am going to be sick. :puke:
That rules.

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45731] Wed, 25 October 2006 18:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hexarar is currently offline Hexarar

 
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@Jack Funk:
It wasn't exactly a moment to be fond of. I was retreating because there were too many enemies for them. Buzz was trying to drop ones that were too close for comfort. Numb was standing too close... Buzz went to psycho mode... The rest is history.

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45732] Wed, 25 October 2006 20:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't like Gumpy's voice, but he has funny lines when he gets wounded, bleeds or is about to die.

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45733] Wed, 25 October 2006 20:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Unifrag is currently offline Unifrag

 
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Favo Merc Scully. Always been since Ja1.

The most anoying mercs from JA1 + JA:DG were the mercs wich you couldnt improve or wich became worse every day. Just remember: Carp/Larry/Mozes/Skitz/Kaboom Very Happy /IT/Pops/Bernie Gloves etc.

So there is only 1 person i never ever hire and thats Len. Even if he kills 1000 Blackskirts/Crepitus or whatever he cant improve Sad . There are some other mercs wich i dont like because of their personality but i rather have a merc with a shit attitude wich can progress 90+ in every skill then someone who doesnt improve no matter what :axe:

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45734] Thu, 26 October 2006 01:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lucas is currently offline Lucas

 
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Actually Len can learn normally on Unfinished Business...

"Looks like this old dog have learned a new trick."

-Corp. Len Anderson

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45735] Thu, 26 October 2006 02:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ash is currently offline Ash

 
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You can also use proedit and edit Len so he can "evolve" normally. That's what I always do, I don't consider that cheating.

But I don't use Len much, because Len's involved in the whole Vicky - Spider - Dr.Q triangle and I don't particulairly like those 3.

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45736] Thu, 26 October 2006 07:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Khor1255 is currently offline Khor1255

 
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I never hire Vicky and rarely hire the other two. The only thing that keeps me from hiring a merc is if they don't get along with one of my core team members.
On that note, I really wish the Sir Tech folks were still around here so I could ask them if they recorded various likes dislikes lines for mercs. I am thinking on changing a few but the bad part is when they make a comment you'll likely hear nothing at all, my voice or and edited version of their dialouge to fit the new merc they like/dislike.


Gumpy's voice is one of the funniest things in the game. I always hire that guy and am going out of my way to edit his lines so I can keep him in the WW2 mod. Because he makes so many references to modern Hollywood this is no small feat.

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45737] Thu, 26 October 2006 08:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Marlboro Man

 
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I used to never hire mercs who squabble at each other. Now since I can have my IMP merc set to optimistic, he usually keeps everyone some what happy and getting along. Before with the old system where you had to answer those questions, I could never get an optimistic merc rolled. So any IMPs I create if more than one, they will all have optimistic trait. One other note if you have mercs who actually like each other and some they hate on your team, they will rehire or not leave, even if you keep the ones they hate on the team, because of the ones they like, they will stay.

Vicky is a dam good merc. She is on my team right now. Ya Mon !

I actually like every one of the mercs. Except as stated above about there voices. Which thank god they can be muted. Smile

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45738] Thu, 26 October 2006 09:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Khor1255 is currently offline Khor1255

 
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Wow. That's good info. I never noticed that having a merc who is liked by another who hates one that you have can balance them out of their decision to leave. This could be used in all kinds of ways within a mod. Man, one more bit of complexity that got by me.


I also didn't know what optimist did although I'm sure I read it somewhere. I'm going to try setting my IMP to optimist in the future.

Thanx Marlboro Man these are good things to know.

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45739] Thu, 26 October 2006 09:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wounded Ronin is currently offline Wounded Ronin

 
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Originally posted by Ash:
You can also use proedit and edit Len so he can "evolve" normally. That's what I always do, I don't consider that cheating.

But I don't use Len much, because Len's involved in the whole Vicky - Spider - Dr.Q triangle and I don't particulairly like those 3.
I thought that in 1.13 they fixed Len's advancement by default, didn't they?

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45740] Thu, 26 October 2006 09:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Khor1255 is currently offline Khor1255

 
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Yeah, it's fixed. It is a simple line in the hidden trait of proedit that has his Evolution set to None. Changing this to Normal makes him like all the other mercs.

I think a cool thing for the None evolution trait might be if a merc takes a serious head wound and his evolution is bumped down to none as a result. But since Proedit changes require a new game I don't think this is likely to ever be done.

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45741] Thu, 26 October 2006 10:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Marlboro Man

 
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@ Khor

Your welcome. Smile

@ WR

Yes they did. But some of the people down in this forum are still playing ye olde vanilla version. Smile

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45742] Fri, 27 October 2006 02:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ash is currently offline Ash

 
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I don't think the IMP generator can generate anything more then normal, psycho and friendly. I've never gotten optimist out of that stupid program anyway.

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45743] Fri, 27 October 2006 02:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ash is currently offline Ash

 
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Vicky is a dam good merc. She is on my team right now. Ya Mon !
Vicky's too expensive. There can be a good merc like Sidney or Scope, but if you play the game normally you won't be able to hire them from the beginning. Cheap mercs are much more cost effective, even if they ain't half as good. Everyone becomes a killer with a decent MRK and 5 or so levels under his/her belt, and decent weaponry. Expensive AIM mercs just aren't worth it, apart perhaps from HW mercs like Gus, Ivan and Buzz. Because there are so few of them to go around.

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45744] Fri, 27 October 2006 09:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wounded Ronin is currently offline Wounded Ronin

 
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Yeah, I find that the average AIM mercs are quite adequate. You really can make them work for you with decent equipment. Hell, in my games I often hardly hire any AIM guys at all...instead my campaign is powered by MERC.

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45745] Fri, 27 October 2006 13:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Marlboro Man

 
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instead my campaign is powered by MERC.
I guess that's why I keep finding your dead squad on the road between Omerta and Drassen. :biglaugh:

Yup, there's WR and his squad again. Just keep walking and don't mind the crows. Razz

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Re: The mercs we love we hate![message #45746] Fri, 27 October 2006 19:49 Go to previous message
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I like to use locals-only squads +Conrad and Hamous (sometimes taking Buns for militia).

Favourites- Ira & Maddog, Maddog being my close-quarters killing machine. If you are evil, use mine-tnt cheat and boost his wisdom to 90-100 and he can enter any building (locpick) and burst anyone inside (psyho is beautifull on 5 tiles distance).

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