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| Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #161330]
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Ja 1 changed my childhood and to this day is my favorite series of games and am proud to own them all
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Fri, 12 October 2007 20:28
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I think im about to start ja1 again. I haven't played it in years either though. Hope its as good as I remember. I too have been playing ja2 for twoooo long.
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| Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #163177]
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Tue, 30 October 2007 21:48
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My bad, didnt take my time reading the other posts in this thread, nevermind this post.
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| Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #237534]
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Thu, 12 November 2009 19:26
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.. I played JA a year after it came out. I still have fond memories of the island of Kevlar bushes. It was a pretty good game for the time, but it is incomparable to JA2. Tried re-playing last time, but got tired of un-openable crates. I mean, I hired Mike to bust open crates, and there were still some I could not get open...
I liked Deadly Games more..the mechanics were more sensible overall, the enviroment more varied, plus it had blood and tracks. (too bad JA2 doesnt have them. In rain, they would be mighty useful...
It was quite a challenge, doing it with the cheapest mercs available. I think I started with Mouse, Grunty, Pops and Speck. Later took on Fidel and maybe Vinny.
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| Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #242874]
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Sat, 30 January 2010 12:29
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Ummm , found this site ( Polish JA site), with download section and apparently full versions of JA1 and Deadly Games , now in the interests of research , when I get home from work I might d/l these and see what's what ! Now I might have read this wrong , buuut , it mentions JA1 and 1.13 in the same sentence ? Anyone else want to test this out first ? ( I dont speak Polish , but the translater seems pretty good.....)
http://jagged-alliance.pl/
Ah , it has translations of games into Polish , not the games themselves . Oh well !
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| Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #256290]
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Thu, 15 July 2010 13:53
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I finnaly started it all from the beginning.
Ran JA1 for the first time, in DosBox.
I bravely chose Normal difficulty and browsing through the manual picked potential mercs.
After hours of finding a good team I ended up with:
Ivan & Ice for marksmanship
Fidel for explosives
Speck for mechanics
Beth for basic medical and nice wisdom for some training
It seemed like a well-rounded team.
I started by searching sector 60 and collecting .38 ammo because everyone was armed with .38 revolvers. Cleanup of sector 50 went almost without a scratch, so I spent a day healing up. Next day a native joined my team. He was so useless that he sprung a trap after I cleaned up sectors 40 and 39 crippling half my team and killing himself. Then I got another native which had really good stats but half my team left and i ran out of money. Game over!
This game is awesome! I'm gonna start again, but should I go maybe with easier difficulty... Oh, and no save during combat is excellent
Too bad there is no topic about JA1 war experiences
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| Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #256298]
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Thu, 15 July 2010 16:14
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A) JA1 is a really cool game, though it's hard to get used to the limited controls after having played JA2 or 1.13. I used to love JA1, but now I just can't play it anymore. 
B) Your initial team is pretty much the same as I always used (with some extras like Snake, Bud and Wolf), but the key is to move rapidly and secure sap-producing sectors as soon as possible on the first few days, otherwise (as you discovered) you can't afford to keep them all. It'll get easier to make money as you move along. Just make sure not to spend too much on militia to guard your sectors - only guard areas where you aren't advancing.
C) When you find crates and other containers, ALWAYS check them out with a merc with high explosives skill (in your case, Fidel) before trying to open them. It's usually best to leave crates 'till after the battle is over, for this reason. Also, as you discovered, when inspecting for traps, always keep your team away from the person trying to open it.
You'll get used to it eventually.
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| Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #256299]
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Thu, 15 July 2010 16:18
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Actually I wasn't inspecting traps. I always do like you said in games like this. Even check doors and windows, everyinth ... But this game cought me off guard xD
It is so simple, yet so complex! Pure excellence!
Thanks for your reply
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| Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #256322]
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Thu, 15 July 2010 18:32
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I'm starting the new game.
And I'll go with Normal again, I love a good challenge.
Picked the same team, they seem ok to me. If this fails, I'm gonna choose a whole different oriented team.
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Fri, 16 July 2010 03:36
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If you fail a second time, I think it's your leadership you'll have to blame because it's quite a good starting team you got there.
I think everyone will agree that Ivan is the best merc you can hire on day one and he'll still be with you during the final showdown.
Fidel is one of the best explosive expert in the game with his high explosive and marksmanship skills, personally I hired him halfway in the game but if you can afford him on day 1, do so.
Have Beth train her medical skill for a bunch of days and she'll cover all your needs for a doctor and a snitch in your team.
Ice is quite a good sharpshooter early in the game.
Speck and Sparky are the best and cheapest home mechanic you can get. Sparky start off slightly worse than Speck, however Speck's mechanic and dexterity skills will never improve, while Sparky's mechanical skills will improve over the course of the game, and soon enough she'll be better at repairing than Speck. She's also cheaper than Speck.
Elio's usefulness depends what you intend to do with him. Sure he can't shoot and like all level 1-3 mercs, he'll walk on every mines and traps he stumbles on (the trick is to quick save when you conquer a sector in case something like that happens while you're looting it), but he's good at opening crates, and like all native guides, he's dirt cheap, he got some advices on the sectors you'll fight on and you can use him to lug around all the stuff you find (and there's quite a lot of stuff to bring back home in the 4 first sectors). If you get rid of him, you'll be offered better guides later on in the game (even if they are all average compared to mercenaries.)
It's also good that you didn't fill all the slots in your team on the first day. In 3 or 4 days, better mercs will accept to work for you and it's better to hire less early in the game than uselessly increasing your turnover rate when the good mercs become available.
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And now I'm wishing there were mods/remakes/addons for that game. I'd love to have an excuse to replay it every time I feel like it.
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Fri, 16 July 2010 14:18
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Elio is also good for carrying the money you loot from sectors. He never steals it regardless of how much you give him.
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| Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #256644]
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Sat, 17 July 2010 23:12
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7h30nI'm surprised how awesome merc personalities are set up in a game that old. Seems to me like so-called next-gen games couldn learn something from old classics
JA1 has the same mercs relationships as JA2.
If I remember well, each merc can have a friend, an enemy, and a future enemy.
They have traits too (compared to JA2, it's more a mix of personality and traits): Magic is stealthy, Speck is nervous, one or two are "hopeless shot", Elio, Hamous and Hector have "summer legs"...
They have the normal, reversed or no evolution of their skills.
The source code of JA2 is built around a core of JA1 and has references to water snakes in its files.
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