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Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46433] Tue, 25 January 2000 03:06 Go to next message
Rain

 
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Registered:January 2000
Location: Malibu, CA, USA
I started my JA career with JA2. Would it be too jarring to my brain to go back to back to "ancient" JA1 and Dangerous Games?

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Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46434] Tue, 25 January 2000 03:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aeilissa

 
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Registered:January 2000
Location: Petaling Jaya, Selangor D...

Well, if you like good plot development, JA1's a good one to play. JA-DG was more multi-player oriented, so the storyline of the single-play campaign was kinda flat. Of course, you could MAKE your own scenarios in JA-DG. It's up to your preferences, I guess.

Oh yeah - JA-DG scenarios are day-by-day types (i.e. you CANNOT go "back" after the mission is done), not as much fun as JA1, where every sector was accessible on a large map up 'til 7pm (end of the working day). Therefore, JA1 is helluva lot similar to JA2 than JA-DG will ever be. It's my personal view only, of course.

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[This message has been edited by Aeilissa (edited 24 January 2000).]
Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46435] Tue, 25 January 2000 08:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bearpit

 
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Registered:August 2001
Location: Sydney Australia.
You dont have a proper life unless you have played JA1. It hooked me. Sirtechs vicious black humour was at its finest in those days. JA1 is very quaint and probably a little primitive compared to JA2 but after you try it you will know why it has been elevated to cult status. The ballistic physics are fabulous for a game made in 1994. The loving attention to graphical detail and variety throughout the sectors and quirky humour will stay with you. Also inventory acquisition, gameplay and quests are finely paced & balanced. A real winner. play it and be rewarded.

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Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46436] Tue, 25 January 2000 12:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Vesku

 
Messages:40
Registered:January 2000
Location: Finland

Ja1 is Great!If it's possible everyone should get their own Ja1!

I am proud owner of JA1,Jadg and Ja2!


http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46437] Tue, 25 January 2000 16:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Iceman
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Registered:January 2000
Location: Bel Air
I am also a proud owner of every JA game so far and I lovem.

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Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46438] Tue, 12 December 2000 10:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Machiavelli
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Registered:December 2000
Quote:
Originally posted by Iceman:
I am also a proud owner of every JA game so far and I lovem.




Same here, dudes. I make sure the original boxes are in real purdy condition too, so I can display them if the games ever become real collectibles...le sigh...
Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46439] Tue, 12 December 2000 12:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
quasimodo

 
Messages:54
Registered:November 2000
Location: eugene, oregon U.S.A.
Would any of you old-timers have a clue as where to find JA1. I would love to give it a try, but I've never seen it for sale. Who was the publisher?
Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46440] Wed, 13 December 2000 03:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shanga

 
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Registered:January 2000
Location: Danubia
I believe Fred has posted some sites in the "goodies" forum (the Gossamer links engine you can access from the categories page). Online orders and stuff.

The publisher was ... Sirtech, but not Sirtech Canada. They originally had a publishing company - but those were the golden years - the big sharks ate it up.

The game has a nice story and it's a must for every JA player. Maybe someday we will finish the JA1 section at JAG, too. Oh, btw, I believe I uploaded a demo there. Check out the downloads page under JA DG section.

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Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46441] Wed, 13 December 2000 10:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bearpit

 
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Registered:August 2001
Location: Sydney Australia.
The links engine only has links for JA2 & UB so far.
So if anyone has information about a supplier of JA1 & Deadly Games with games actually in stock please let us know so we can add those links.
There are some multiple game packs with JA1 included available & DG is still around as a stand alone box in places but who has accurate information???

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Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46442] Wed, 20 December 2000 18:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Becoming X

 
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Registered:July 2001
Location: Canada
Hi! I've only ever seen JA1 for sale in the multi pack of sir tech games. Think it cost like $6 or something stupid. I've seen it a couple of times in bargain basement bins, if you look for it there maybe you can find it. I've never seen it for sale online anywhere. Although I did get JADG online about two years ago! it's boss
Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46443] Sun, 07 January 2001 23:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Vesku

 
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Registered:January 2000
Location: Finland

Hmmmm... I haven't seen JA1 in stores recently. i wanted to buy one because i was afraid that my curent JA1 might "get killed" someday. Unfortunately, i didn't find any copies of it.

Well, i think i should take a good look for those collections. I may find it if i'm lucky!

http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/smilies/biggrin.gif

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[This message has been edited by Vesku (edited 07 January 2001).]
Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46444] Thu, 11 January 2001 12:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
quasimodo

 
Messages:54
Registered:November 2000
Location: eugene, oregon U.S.A.
I just managed to find a copy of JA1 at cdaccess.com. They shipped it on monday so I should be getting it tomorrow. I don't know how plentiful their stock is.
Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46445] Thu, 11 January 2001 18:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bearpit

 
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Registered:August 2001
Location: Sydney Australia.
Thanks for that supplier lead quasimodo. http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/smilies/ok.gif
There are several online retailers listed in the "Links To Jagged Alliance Goodies" forum and CDAccess has plentifull stock of the older JA games.
http://www.cdaccess.com


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Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46446] Sun, 11 February 2001 02:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
xtcharge
Messages:3
Registered:February 2001
Location: East Coast, Canada
Hmmm... somone mentioned black humor...

Gotta love it when you ordered one merc to "check" another...

Fidel: "I see you later no?"

Of course, they didn't seem to differentiate between the sexes...

For the original poster, BUY JA! But don't expect the same game as the newer games... it's different, but very satisfying in it's own right.

Chris
Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46447] Thu, 15 February 2001 16:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Maniac
Messages:3
Registered:February 2001
Location: The Netherlands
JA1 is a nice game, even if you played JA2. I thinks it's nice to know were those mercs came from and how the game developped.

I own JA1 (in English and German)also DG and JA2.
Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46448] Fri, 16 February 2001 01:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
STeYR-AuG

 
Messages:12
Registered:July 2000
Location: Philippines

i never played JA1 or DG hehe. got hooked to to JA2 becase i like RPG, guns, strategy, guns, soldiers, gun, mercenaries, guns, military, guns, army, guns, guns, guns and guns hehe. i cant find JA1 here in the stores anymore. wish i have one.

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Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46449] Thu, 22 March 2001 00:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dark Lord

 
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Registered:March 2001
Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Aust...
JA1 rules.

I got it ages ago in a compilation CD pack and at first was so confused by it (it was so radically different to most games at thge time) that I initially didn't play it much.

I finally decided to put my head down and try to play rhe game. As soon as I learnt how to heal injured mercs, I was hooked.

I never completed the game because I only played it casually. Then JA2 was released which I purchased immediatly. I played JA2 for a while and went back to JA1.

Using the skills I learnt from JA2 I managed to complete JA1 in 13 game days!

A couple of days ago, I ordered JA-DG which should be arriving soon. Even though it is a "step backwards", the thought of playing JA online is pretty exciting.

Playing JA1 is definitly worth the effort.
Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46450] Fri, 30 March 2001 23:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
El_slapper

 
Messages:31
Registered:March 2001
Location: Taverny, France
Yes it is. Graphics were already looking quite old, so I couldn't convert anybody to JA's religion, but they never knew what they missed. :):):)Smile

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Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46451] Sat, 07 April 2001 18:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rude Dog

 
Messages:468
Registered:March 2001
Location: Chasing Pussy
You know guys, I was really hot to find JA-DG or JA for a long while. Then all of a sudden UB came out and I'm so immersed in it and JA2 again that I really hadn't thouhgt about it again until recently. I suppose if I exhaust all the maps and campaigns and games that everybody is putting out to make these two fresh every day, I will start looking all over again. I just don't see anyone sitting idle for long enough for me to even catch up, let alone get through them all. KEEP IT UP, MAN! I'm not even through all the campaigns from the first of the year yet and they are like that freaking Energizer Bunny they keep going, and going, and going. Beleive me when I tell you that I think JA2 and UB are the best thing to happen to gaming in a long time, and thanks Bearpit for putting this forum up so we can all share in the wealth of each others knowledge.

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Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46452] Sun, 08 April 2001 12:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bearpit

 
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Registered:August 2001
Location: Sydney Australia.
The saddest aspect of JA1 is that it uses DOS so anyone with the newer operating systems like ME simply cannot play it so in a couple of years ........ http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/smilies/bawling.gif

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Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46453] Fri, 13 April 2001 21:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ib2cool
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Registered:April 2001
Location: Melbourne, Autralia
I've got 'em all too. JA, JADG, JA2 & JA2UB. And I hate MS too for the very same reasons. I've resisted the Win ME upgrade for the very same reasons. I hope XP will have a DOS box or DOS mode.
Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46454] Mon, 18 October 2004 00:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
moller

 
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Registered:August 2002
Quote:
Originally posted by Bearpit:
The saddest aspect of JA1 is that it uses DOS so anyone with the newer operating systems like ME simply cannot play it so in a couple of years ........ http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/smilies/bawling.gif
I've been successfully playing my CD copy of JA1 on windows XP via the use of a DOS emulator called DosBox .

Check it out, and download the front-end (D-Fend) if you don't feel like dealing with a command prompt.
Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46455] Mon, 18 October 2004 00:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sigma

 
Messages:33
Registered:January 2003
Location: Lahti, Finland

Nice digging Moller! :placard:
Seriously, you should be awarded with a gravedigger-of-the-month -award. Wink

I don
Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46456] Mon, 18 October 2004 20:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The NumbNuts

 
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Registered:May 2004
Location: Keuruu, Finland

I was very suprised when I noticed that I didn't like JA1. It was some how so hard for me to learn, so I haven't played it so much.
Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46457] Fri, 22 October 2004 20:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TNT

 
Messages:49
Registered:June 2004
Location: Netherlands
I prefer JA1 over JA2. JA2 is just a little to big and some of my favorite mercs died or quit in that game.

Whenever I try to use the dosbox it tells me it cant find the cd. :computer2:
Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46458] Fri, 22 October 2004 22:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
grindedstone

 
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Registered:August 2004
Well i just found my ja1 cd1 The old paper cd case, sir-tech written all over it.
The manual

"Jagged Alliance
Tactical Manual
A Strategy Role-Playing Simulation
SIR-TECH"

The dust is making me sneeze

Oh and the instilation and quick reference card.
Recommended
*MB Ram
38MB hard disk space

lol

Ahhhhh
*wipes tear away*
had this one since new
Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46459] Fri, 22 October 2004 23:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gideon

 
Messages:54
Registered:February 2003
Location: Uppsala/Sweden

Quote:
Originally posted by Bearpit:
The saddest aspect of JA1 is that it uses DOS so anyone with the newer operating systems like ME simply cannot play it so in a couple of years ........ http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/smilies/bawling.gif
I'm using ME and I am playing JA1, JA:DG, Master of Magic, and several other oldies without any problem. You must mean XP and the like.

XP sucks.

It sure does.

Man, I really HATE XP.
Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46460] Sun, 24 October 2004 12:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dr.Quack

 
Messages:125
Registered:November 2001
Location: old Europe
Well... so much negativity and what for.

I just test installed JA1-DG on Win2K, took like 1 minute to confirm.

- install VDM-Sound (ok I already had that), XP should have its own soundblaster emulation
- fullscreen dosbox, start VDM-Sound
- run setsound.exe in DG directory
- run DG
- hello Kitty

There's no need for a DOS-Emulator like DOS-Box or Virtual PC since DG doesn't even use VESA modes for its graphics.
Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46461] Sun, 24 October 2004 13:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rev1

 
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Registered:October 2002
Location: Louisville, KY
Dr. Q

What's VDM sound? What's it do? Is there any chance that if I install it, JA2 will also run better on XP?
Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46462] Sun, 24 October 2004 14:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dr.Quack

 
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Registered:November 2001
Location: old Europe
Google is your friend.
Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46463] Sun, 24 October 2004 16:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dr.Quack

 
Messages:125
Registered:November 2001
Location: old Europe
Turns out I was using an age-old version of VDM that was still a bit uncomfortable. After updating for the joy of playing DG, apparantly the thing is very good now. All thats left to do is right-click ja.exe, select 'run with vdm-sound' and everything else is automatic. It even creates shortcuts. Cool!
Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46464] Sun, 24 October 2004 18:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Maddog

 
Messages:317
Registered:September 2003
I never liked JA1. It was hard to learn, and of course, now that the game is 10 years old, the graphics look horrible. I somehow liked Deadly Games better, the gameplay was easier. Going to a different map in JA1 was stupid, since you had to go to the edge of the map. And no NPCs, expect for Brenda, Jack and Lucas. The game wasn't good, not at all. A bad game, I'd say.
Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46465] Sun, 24 October 2004 19:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave Z

 
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Registered:March 2004
Location: Czech Republic
I do not agree Maddog. Yes the game is old today, but when it appeared it was the best turn-based strategy game. Better than UFO. From time to time I install it again and play. It's still good game.

2 all WinME users: I'm running JA1 on WinME without problems :whoknows:
Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46466] Mon, 25 October 2004 00:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
grindedstone

 
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Registered:August 2004
I agree with dave about disagreeing with Maddog.
Ja1 has its great features, and do rember its 10 years old and the first of its type!
Yes ja2 was a vast improvement, but i recently (like last week) reinstalled it after over 6-7 years, and am enjoying it.

It is NOT a bad game, sure it has features that suck, but all games do. for a 10 year old game, i love it.
Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46467] Mon, 25 October 2004 03:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sigma

 
Messages:33
Registered:January 2003
Location: Lahti, Finland

But JA1 did have NPC:s, Elio and Hamous, the local guides Jack gave to your use, if you didn
Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46468] Mon, 25 October 2004 05:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave Z

 
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Registered:March 2004
Location: Czech Republic
Oh, so! :rolleyes: I never met Hamous in JA1, because Elio survived. I used him as an item carrier... Hmmm, next time I'll try him
Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46469] Mon, 25 October 2004 06:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sigma

 
Messages:33
Registered:January 2003
Location: Lahti, Finland

Yep, he was there. But I never met him myself either, back in the day I didn
Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46470] Mon, 25 October 2004 23:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mental7

 
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Registered:October 2004
I sadly spent several pre-internet years trying to locate the original stuff, and finally got DG from a games dealer. Haven't dared install it yet, though, not being too happy with how Win XP seems to mess up all older stuff. But I've been hooked ever since the JA2 demo - even more so since I eventually found the friggin' stairs...
Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46471] Thu, 28 October 2004 05:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dr.Quack

 
Messages:125
Registered:November 2001
Location: old Europe
JA1 was great, definitely better than UFO. Much better interface, much better gameplay with real tactics, and yes it's pretty hard the first few times. Every battle was kind of Ironman since you could only save on exiting the game. Only a few weapons and armors, but very nice tactical gameplay. Of course the whole free that country campaign is kind of unnecessary, the meta-game was better in UFO's Geoscape IMO. That's why I like Deadly Games more, it does away with most inventory shuffling nicely and allows scenarios with limited turns. Would have expected UB to do something similar. Calling it Unfinished Business must be seen as typical Sirtech humor about funds running out in the middle of development...

JA1 a bad game??? Come on, it's old but as high quality as it ever gets. And again, there's zero problems running it on W2K/XP. Just install the VDM-Sound package, right-click JA.EXE and choose 'run with vdm-sound'. There you go Wink
Re: Never played JA1. Is it worth going back?[message #46472] Thu, 28 October 2004 13:44 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
DopE

 
Messages:22
Registered:December 2003
Location: Australia, Brisbane
Well i just bought Deadly Games on Ebay for a grand total of $6.50. Wonder whether if its worth it. Or if it will run on my computer, Ill probly try out that DOS emulator
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