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 Idea: Outside Organizations[message #339565]
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Sat, 21 February 2015 20:34 
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I find myself having a lot more ideas than time to implement them, so here's one of those. Perhaps someone else might want to do this, or perhaps this could be worth talking over.
In the current campaign, the few quests that we have are very straightforward. While there are several solutions to most quests (since in this game we can just gun down anybody, that is always a solution), most of the time there is a single one that is ideal. Not delivering the food to the rebels does not give you anything, not throwing Doreen out does not give you anything etc..
I like it in a game when the choices I make really are choices - when either solution has a consequence beyond 'quest NPC that appears in this quest only is dead'.
Also, considering we are waging a full-scale civil war, you'd think that at least someone from the outside would be interested, and have interests there.
What I propose is to implement outside organizations. These have default relations to us, which will be altered by the (quest-) decisions we do throughout the game. Being on good or bad terms with an organizations can help or hinder us. It would even be possible for relations to be affected by our relations to other organizations - like, say, 2 rival organizations of which we can only be allied to one. per time.
Possible organizations (which is a very broad term as you'll see) with ways to get on their good/bad side, possible ramifications:
- Ira (and, depending on your cynical political view on the world and Arulco, common sense) suggests that the US is propping up the Deidranna regime. Considering the regime is in power for about a decade, based in middle america and the US hasn't intervened in any way, it's likely they'd like it to stay... which makes them antagonistic to you. Piss them off enough, and they will feel the need to do something about you...
Expropriating Doreen, a US entrepreneur, is a grave violation of international treaties.
Doreen is a US citizen. Killing her is clearly a terror act.
Hurting of possibly even killing the Kulbas is clearly a terror act. It does not matter who kills them - you removed them from Chitzena by force, and you are thus responsible for their wellbeing.
Recruiting convicted criminals makes you more despicable. This can both apply to Shank & Dynamo as well as Reuban and Jimmy.
Working together with internationally sought terrorists (Slay)? You know how those people end, do you?
Recruiting barely concealed russian soldiers won't make them friendlier.
Close relations to socialist states are suspicious.
Close relations to criminal organisations are damning.
Evacuating the Kulbas out of a warzone will positively surprise the US.
The resurfacing of an aid worker thought lost is inconvenient, but better than nothing.
If you are on good terms with the US, the US will do nothing. That's the best you can hope for.
On bad terms, they could press for sanctions against you. Perhaps you will then have to look for other buyers for your silver, resulting in -x% mine income... perhaps BR deliveries would be delayed. Restricting MERC & AIM would be logical, but absolutely game breaking.
Direct military intervention would be absolutely game-breaking, so I guess not. I see no way the player could realistically survive the US attacking. Nope.
- Russia is only present in Arulco by a few mercenaries it sent there to train the Arulco army (Conrad & Iggy), possibly to not entirely leave the country to the US. Their main interest here was mainly to force the US to commit resources themselves.
Killing Conrad & Iggy will make them hostile to you nonetheless.
By recruiting Conrad & Iggy, this could actually put them on the winning side... that's a bonus.
On very good terms, they might use their veto power to block US sanctions against you.
On bad terms, they might join sanctions against you.
- The eastern-european mafia. Kingpin is bound to have outside connections, no?
Any move against Kingpin is a move against the mafia. They dislike having to replace their people.
Getting on good terms with Kingping gets you on good terms with the too.
On good terms, they might find a way to give you a small discount at your favourite mob-based weapon dealer.
On bad terms, Tony might demand a risk surcharge.
On very bad terms... well, the mafia might have more than just 6 hitmen, no? Who knows, they might even send more than one per time.
- The southernamerican socialist state of, I don't know, Venezuela would like to see the capitalist, american puppet Deidranna disempowered sooner than later. Thus they are in principle very friendly to you, altough all these foreign capitalist mercenaries are worrying.
Recruiting the rebels is definitely positive.
Completing the food quest shows your commitment to the people.
Expropriating Doreen, who is all but a slaver, and giving production facilities back to the people is the right revolutionary spirit.
Liberating those imprisoned by the regime is positive.
Marrying women off against their will is a troubling development.
Killing an entire extended farmer family is very troubling, and shows you are still bound to business interest.
Hiring outside mercenaries, who work for money and not for the cause, is bad
Bringing in masses of outside footsoldiers (Kerberus) might derail the revolution.
Close relations to capitalist states are suspicious.
On good terms, they might occasionally offer you free but inexperienced volunteers (green militia).
- The WHO is involved in Arulco due to the cathastrophic health system. They are grateful if you help them, but won't tolerate human rights violations.
Helping the few local doctors earns their goodwill.
Combating disease and curing the population helps tremendously.
Attacking hospitals, their staff and patients is a human rights violation.
Beheading people in the streets? Executing civilians because you suspect them to be a 'terrorist' without trail? What kind of monster are you?
On good terms, they might occasionally send you spare medical supplies.
On bad terms, their disease info service costs a lot more.
- Interpol is looking for some well-known terrorists in Arulco, and welcomes any help in that regard.
Having terrorists brought to justice (with proof!) is a good thing.
Killing their contacts, however, isn't.
Recruiting those terrorists instead is unacceptable.
On good terms, they might give you some intel... and reveal the location of all enemy generals on the map. Because they probably committed war crimes or sth.
On bad terms, they... hmmm... put you on their wanted list. Not that it matters in Arulco (does it?).
- The catholic church, while not as powerful as they once were (thank god for that!), still have a lot of money an influence...
Stealing from their church, damaging their property, or attacking their members is frowned upon.
They only know you from Father. Help him, and he'll put in a good word for you
(New quest solution idea) A relic like the chalice should be in the hands of the church.
Hmm. I got nothing here.
- The WWF (no, not that one) would like you to not eradicate endangered species, thank you.
I said not eradicate. How thick are you?
And no, trading animal parts is also bad.
On bad terms... I don't know. They start a twitter campaign against you?
- (AIMNAS-only) Perhaps some modder might place a drug farm in one of his maps. Arulco is pretty far off, labour is cheap... a drug cartel might have a factory here.
Wiping out the entire cartel's Arulco branch might, ahem, sour the relations.
(Possible optional quest idea) The cartel might contact you after taking over their lab and offer you a deal: you operate the lab from now on and protect it, and they might look past your previous actions (what else are they going to do anway?). Perhaps they even give you a part of the profits.
There might even be additional work for a cartel to be done, which would alter other relations.
On good terms, well, money.
On bad terms, well, cartel hitmen.
So yeah. That's the raw idea. Feel free to discuss or implement 
I know now that it could never work between us, as much as we wanted to, it could never be! Not because you're a rabbit, but because you're black.
If you want, you can donate to me. This will not affect how and what I code, and I will not code specific features in return. I will be thankful though.Report message to a moderator
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