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Registered:April 2018
Background: I am playing with new CTH and Interrupt System on, experienced (presumably the normal) difficulty. Default INI settings except for weapon overheating which I manually enabled. Robby Rays was at good I believe (Default setting is good I think and not normal)

Normal Drop system. (NOT drop all) Most "Masochist" sounding features like disease and food and drink were turned off. (Once I do a few runs and feel comfortable I might check them out)

Team of Ira (Scouting to enable enemy positions on the map as well as Militia training), Gunther (Night ops) MD (First Aid) Igor (Night Ops) Bull (Shotgunner, team mule, and San Mona fight club champion) and my IMP (Radioman to jam radios and do radio scans + machinegunner because I plan to run assault rifles on him)

Most of my gear is still starting gear, few with 38 specials and whichever mercs had the option for a 357 revolver I choose that over the 38, my IMP started with a 9mm colt smg. A few flak jackets were replaced with Kevlar Vests I got ahold of.

Having heard about the dreaded Drassen Counterattack, I decided to head to San Mona and hang out for a few days, have Bull beat the ever living **** out of the boxers for 15k every day, get better guns from Tony, then liberate Chitzena before heading to Drassen airport and getting better gear from Bobby Rays.

Days went by, not much good guns showed up at Tony. Think I got a SIG P2-something to replace the 38 for one of my mercs. I scored 2 100% condition SMGs from him. A MAT-49 SMG and some swiss SMG which I cannot remember the name of. (ended in 41/44 I think. I thought it was a Tommy Gun at first) Gunny still has his glock 18 which has fully automatic mode.

I go liberate Chitzena along with training a militia (20 blues before I liberate the top sector)

Suddenly, something unexpected happened. A counterattack of 40 soldiers appears. These guys included 10 or so blackshirts, no yellowshirts whatsoever (Only ones I have ever seen were 4 at San Mona) and were armed with grenades, breaklights, assault rifles, smoke bombs, armor and helmets, sniper rifles, and LMGs. Up until now, aside from one guy with an SMG, all of the enemies I have encountered were using pistols (and a yellowshirt with akimbo pistols)

I have been trying to survive this attack for a few days now and just am at a total loss for what to do. My militia gets utterly massacred, including by enemies who rush up with knives and slice them up faster than onions on an infomercial, standing out in the open gets my mercs killed by snipers, my mercs are hopelessly outgunned.

Although the counterattack takes a few hours to arrive, even if I train as soon as I can I don't have enough time to get a bigger militia aside from the dumb as bricks greenshirts. The 20 blueshirts all die pretty quick and the arriving greenshirts pretty much die as soon as they move in from the top.

I have tried several defensive positions including standing out in the open or holing up in different buildings but I just cannot seem to find a good position. I can't climb on the roofs (they're straw and slanted so that might be why I can't climb on them unlike the roofs in San Mona) and while holing up in buildings is semi effective it's only a matter of time before Deidranna's death squad surrounds the buildings and tosses grenades in.

I hate savescumming but even that doesn't save me. Enemies attacking from all directions with pretty much no cover aside from holing up in buildings which was previously mentioned results in grenades or even stuff like my prone mercs being shot through the windows. If anything going prone almost feels counterproductive, as if incoming CTH has a higher chance to hit your head if you are prone. (I don't know exactly how NCTH works in terms of prone targets. I think I read something about headshots being easier vs prone than vs standing which makes sense as a prone guy facing you has his head in front, it'd be easier to hit than his feet.)

Trying to ambush the attackers as they split up to surround the map tile before the actual attack starts in 10 man squads has proved uneffective due to the snipers. I also assume by the time I can travel back to the city the attack will have already started and my militia already slaughtered (Autoresolve WITH my mercs present still results in a total wipe just about every time so without a doubt my militia alone won't withstand it)

Not sure what to do. I had assumed taking Drassen later when I got better gear would be a good idea but if Chitzena, a town of little strategic importance and supposedly a very low priority for the Queen is met with a deathsquad I can only imagine the bloodbath Drassen will result in.

Any tips for defending Chitzena's mine? As mentioned I can't seem to find any decent spot for my mercs. Taking cover from one group of enemies only results in being shot to pieces from a completely different direction, and my mercs cannot get within anywhere close to effective range before a sniper blows their head off or a machine gunner cuts them down.

Venting here but I've been stuck for a few days know and am out of ideas. If I decide to bail and just let them have Chitzena back, will the entire 40 man force entrench themselves or will they simply repopulate the garrison (I think initially it was only about 20 troops total counting both sectors) and leave?
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