The Bears Pit: Vanilla Modding

Home » SIRTECH CLASSICS » Jagged Alliance: Unfinished Business » Vanilla Modding » Open Merc List

Show: Today's Messages :: Polls :: Message Navigator

Open Merc List[message #100766]

Wed, 17 March 2004 17:12

PySnake

Messages:9
Registered:March 2004

One of the things I've always dreamed about in JA2 is having an open Merc list. Users should be able to download new AIM/MERC mercs, and have them appear in the game. Similarly, user-created Mercs (the PC) should appear in later games as hireables (or enemies if they've been hired by the other side).

Granted, the "hard coded" conflicts between mercs would have to be abstracted somewhat, like 0..100 ratings for political views, professionalism, etc. Mercs would come into conflict with each other based on math between these numbers.

And while I'm on Merc conflicts, can we please have more options instead of the offended party warning your once about "mercenary X," then up and leaving! I would like to see a little bit of negotiation:

* Ok I'll stay on, but I want more money.
* I'm going back to a safe zone and pouting/drinking.
* I'm not moving/being grouped with X.
* X is taking all the glory/kills/loot (use me more).
* It's OK (minor quibble)
* It's OK (secretly plans to whack X at the first chance).

Just some thoughts.

Report message to a moderator

Private

Re: Open Merc List[message #100767]

Wed, 17 March 2004 19:21

Lytinwheedle

Messages:78
Registered:November 2001
Location: Luxembourg

Having one merc whacking another one would be incredibly cool! Of course you would have to provide advance warning.

Imagine hiring Biff and surrounding him with mercs who hate him. Can anyone say 'firing squad'?!

Report message to a moderator

Corporal

Re: Open Merc List[message #100768]

Wed, 17 March 2004 19:53

Khor1255

Messages:1817
Registered:August 2003
Location: Pleasantville, NJ

That is cool, but I especially like the diversity that would result from having the variable reactions to other mercs. I'd also like to see leadership affecting wether the guy who was complaining actually quits or just raises his price. Well done.

Report message to a moderator

Sergeant Major

Re: Open Merc List[message #100769]

Thu, 18 March 2004 04:30

Digicrab

Messages:253
Registered:December 2003

Sounds like an interesting idea, I'll file it away in my head for further reference.

Report message to a moderator

Master Sergeant

Re: Open Merc List[message #100770]

Sun, 21 March 2004 17:51

Ghrad

Messages:5
Registered:November 2003

sorta off topic (it is about user created mercs)
Is there a way to allow for importing your custom merc from the basic game into a mod? I mean, DL was supposed to be "coming back" but you still had to start a new character. Heh, maybe nobody cares, but I really liked it when I imported Wraith into UB at level 10 after soloing the original campaign. Smile

Report message to a moderator

Private

Re: Open Merc List[message #100771]

Tue, 23 March 2004 00:16

defrog

Messages:235
Registered:March 2004
Location: Austria

interesting, I never played UB... how did they import them? from a saved game?

Report message to a moderator

Sergeant 1st Class

Re: Open Merc List[message #100772]

Tue, 23 March 2004 00:24

Khor1255

Messages:1817
Registered:August 2003
Location: Pleasantville, NJ

In the beginning of UB it gives you a choice wether to import from a saved game or start a fresh game. If you import, you're IMPs stats remain where they were at the save you import from while the AIM mercs you advanced in you're original game come back with improved stats but not to the point they were when you saved.

Report message to a moderator

Sergeant Major

Re: Open Merc List[message #100773]

Tue, 23 March 2004 03:45

Rude Dog

Messages:467
Registered:March 2001
Location: Chasing Pussy

I have found that some of the AIM and Merc members will shoot the living shit out of each other. I even had Meltdown and I believe it was Buns drop their weapons and duke it out. Once the initial attack is made, the fight is on! They traded punches back and forth until one was knocked to the ground and summerily pummeled to death. It was so cool. I think I'll have to renact it just for old times sake.

Report message to a moderator

Master Sergeant

Re: Open Merc List[message #100774]

Tue, 23 March 2004 07:26

Khor1255

Messages:1817
Registered:August 2003
Location: Pleasantville, NJ

That's great! I've always wondered how far they would take their disdain for each other. It seemed to me (when I first started playing) that the mercs who hated each other tended to 'accidenally' shoot each other a little more often. I haven't experienced anything like what you just described though.

Report message to a moderator

Sergeant Major

Re: Open Merc List[message #100775]

Tue, 23 March 2004 11:02

Digital

Messages:22
Registered:March 2003

I used to have some mercs "duel."

I gave them a pistol and fired off until there was only one round left in each merc's pistol.

Then, I had them walk 5 squares and fire.

Report message to a moderator

Private 1st Class