Originally posted by Gideon:
You know, they don't only make a bad MOD without a really good storyline, they also bashes Dedrianna Lives:

Originally posted by Shanga:
Ok, we discussed the issue and the official position of the BP staff is:

1. First, they should release it
2. Second, people should buy, play and like it
3. If 1 and 2 are true, we'll make a forum

Originally posted by Eisenhower:
im also thinking of buying it actually.

i only hope that it doesnt cost the full price of 50$ .

the max i would pay for this mod is 30$ but then i also expect a version of JA2 with it..

OK, I've been hibernating about JA2 for a long time now, but then I heard something about the "New" Wildfire mod...

This Mod is like a history lesson for me. Ah... *basks in past glory days* Good times...  

It's funny, because I'm listening to all the complaints, and yet without Wildfire, there would be no JA2 mods. (Well, no, not true at all, but they'd be about a year behind of where they are now.)

My weapon editor was made after Wildfire released his first mod way back in the day, and I made the editor partially because so many people couldn't stand his changes! Some things in life don't change.  

But his mod was the only place to get an un-encrypted .exe in those days (the Russians were *way* ahead in JA2 mods back then...), and it was the only way I was able to crack the code for making weapon mods. So, yeah, he's the great-granddaddy of all JA2 mod makers.

Of course, one impression I got from Wildfire was that he was kinda possessive of his stuff. I don't think he really wanted everybody else to know how he made all the changes. He seemed to not want us all tinkering with his mod, and seemed to take it personally when people suggested changes.

Originally posted by Shanga:
Actually due to the fact that now it's clear that Wildfire had complete access to the sources, his mod might turn out to be interesting. Depends on what he improved/spoiled.

Added tall grass, bushes, stones, and trees to sections of the map which were barren, allowing for better coverage for units and new combat tactics.

Originally posted by Shanga:
But as I said, I won't be buying those CDs for any mod. Working with the sources will be the real gain. Discovering the bits the guys at Sirtech disabled and working to perfect those, adding extras to the code... A dream come true...

But I think the real goal would be to make JA2 moddable. As Chris advised, move the data that is now hardcoded in the exe and put it in external modifiable files. That would be the most important project. Then add multiplayer.

Originally posted by jordonj:
Huh, wonder what that guy's problem was?

We're all fans here...

Originally posted by W4st:
[Well, I think his first mod wasn't even out for half a day and people were already complaining bitterly about how his ideas of "realism" conflicted with theirs.

I suppose if I were him, I'd have felt annoyed with the reaction too, and maybe become possessive of all the work I'd put in.

*shrugs* Granted, this is all hypothetical, since I only knew him from the postings on the old Tactical Planet forums...

Originally posted by Sturmwehr:

You people complain... anything new in the world of JA2 is worth playing, even if it's bad. But, for what I've seen on WF, it looks nice.

Originally posted by Sturmwehr:
You people complain... anything new in the world of JA2 is worth playing, even if it's bad. But, for what I've seen on WF, it looks nice.

Originally posted by jordonj:
Yeah, unless you know how to program this kind of a project, you should just keep your mouth shut.

February 12 2004
i-Deal Games is pleased to announce that Jagged Alliance 2: Wildfire has gone gold.

Originally posted by Wodan:
So when someone else knows more about a subject than you do, you should agree or shut up? Absolute nonsense.