The Bears Pit: JA2 Wildfire » Contract between i-Dial Games and SF is terminated

Home » PLAYER'S HQ 1.13 » JA2 Complete Mods & Sequels » JA2 Wildfire » Contract between i-Dial Games and SF is terminated

Show: Today's Messages :: Polls :: Message Navigator

Contract between i-Dial Games and SF is terminated[message #104569]

Wed, 06 October 2004 21:25

Romualdas Arm

Messages:53
Registered:June 2001
Location: Tyumen, Russia

Due the methodical breach of terms of distribution agreement by SF side the agreement between SF and i-Deal Games was terminated.

Report message to a moderator

Corporal

Re: Contract between i-Dial Games and SF is terminated[message #104570]

Wed, 06 October 2004 21:48

JayDee

Messages:34
Registered:February 2001
Location: Toronto, Canuckistan

uhm... so much information... sheesh... Razz

No really- would you care to give us some more details. Terminated ? How exactly... did both parties agree to end it or is it one side saying 'screw you we're through' or what. Also there were some people trying to get the patch(es)...

(And what the heck was that contract all about anyways ?)

Report message to a moderator

Private 1st Class

Re: Contract between i-Dial Games and SF is terminated[message #104571]

Thu, 07 October 2004 00:54

Corporal Clegg

Messages:8
Registered:October 2004
Location: Belarus

To Romualdas - terminated or cancelled? And what now with all the copyrights??

Report message to a moderator

Private

Re: Contract between i-Dial Games and SF is terminated[message #104572]

Thu, 07 October 2004 01:58

Romualdas Arm

Messages:53
Registered:June 2001
Location: Tyumen, Russia

Quote:

Originally posted by Corporal Clegg:
To Romualdas - terminated or cancelled? And what now with all the copyrights??

The first case. SF lost granted rights for distribution and we got it, it means that all rights granted by SF to distributors in particular territories keep in force for some time yet, but all such rights are now non-exclusive and we have no obligation to such rights holders.

Report message to a moderator

Corporal

Re: Contract between i-Dial Games and SF is terminated[message #104573]

Thu, 07 October 2004 02:18

Wodan

Messages:538
Registered:December 2001
Location: Antwerp, Belgium

So, will Wildfire dissapear from the market or do you guys have enough resources and rights to keep distributing it yourself?

Report message to a moderator

First Sergeant

Re: Contract between i-Dial Games and SF is terminated[message #104574]

Thu, 07 October 2004 18:07

Corporal Clegg

Messages:8
Registered:October 2004
Location: Belarus

As far as I know Ideal-Games haven't got enough resources to publish and distribute it. I'm affraid that now the game is almost dead.

Though I'd be happy to be mistaken.

Report message to a moderator

Private

Re: Contract between i-Dial Games and SF is terminated[message #104575]

Fri, 08 October 2004 03:53

perez24

Messages:26
Registered:April 2001
Location: usa

[/qb][/QUOTE]we have no obligation to such rights holders. [/QB][/QUOTE]

Does this mean that you can issue the patch. I know you're probably sick of people asking about the patch, but any info would help.

Report message to a moderator

Private 1st Class

Re: Contract between i-Dial Games and SF is terminated[message #104576]

Fri, 08 October 2004 08:54

pheloncab

Messages:278
Registered:August 2004
Location: So. Cal. or texas

Actually, my thoughts were, does this mean the product could be patched, reworked minus the SF logo stuff, and then redistributed with better advertising through another distributor, that would perhaps take this 'finished' product and sell it, with i-deal keeping full rights and thus making some real money on it.

Report message to a moderator

Master Sergeant

Re: Contract between i-Dial Games and SF is terminated[message #104577]

Fri, 08 October 2004 23:10

Romualdas Arm

Messages:53
Registered:June 2001
Location: Tyumen, Russia

Quote:

Originally posted by pheloncab:
Actually, my thoughts were, does this mean the product could be patched, reworked minus the SF logo stuff, and then redistributed with better advertising through another distributor, that would perhaps take this 'finished' product and sell it, with i-deal keeping full rights and thus making some real money on it.

Yes

Report message to a moderator

Corporal

Re: Contract between i-Dial Games and SF is terminated[message #104578]

Sat, 09 October 2004 06:47

pheloncab

Messages:278
Registered:August 2004
Location: So. Cal. or texas

a Request:
When WF gets redone, could the executable not be supercompressed and locked.

Many of our tools work well with most versions or can be adapted to MOD most versions, WF is an exception to that Rule, and since we are looking at years ahead without JA product, I believe most the community would like the ability to mod things to suit themselves.

In fact, I recommend that you keep the Modders in the forefront of your mind, as I believe they are the primary audience for WF.

Thanks.

Report message to a moderator

Master Sergeant

Re: Contract between i-Dial Games and SF is terminated[message #104579]

Sun, 10 October 2004 02:35

basemetal

Messages:15
Registered:January 2004

If should Ideal find a new publisher? Would the new patch for the new publisher be compatible with SF's Wildfire? What about those who already purchase SF's Wildfire? Does that mean we have to buy another Wildfire but under another publidher?

Report message to a moderator

Private

Re: Contract between i-Dial Games and SF is terminated[message #104580]

Sun, 10 October 2004 17:16

Bearpit

Messages:1068
Registered:August 2001
Location: Sydney Australia.

Trying to re-publish an already released game may be counter productive & not worth the effort.
Wildfire Gold ....

Perhaps just the patched Wildfire files available for download via an internet store payable by CC might be enough.
Serge & Romualdas could probably set that up at their I-Deal Games site .... publicity would be a bit limited but at least all revenue minus CC processing company fees & bandwidth would be theirs.

Main problem with this sort of operation is piracy especially if the download is relatively small.

If legal proceedings by I-Deal against SF are concluded Romualdas may now be able to explain those mysterious & annoying bugs in Wildfire.

Report message to a moderator

Sergeant Major

Re: Contract between i-Dial Games and SF is terminated[message #104581]

Mon, 11 October 2004 00:26

Romualdas Arm

Messages:53
Registered:June 2001
Location: Tyumen, Russia

Quote:

Originally posted by Bearpit:
Trying to re-publish an already released game may be counter productive & not worth the effort.
Wildfire Gold ....

Perhaps just the patched Wildfire files available for download via an internet store payable by CC might be enough.
Serge & Romualdas could probably set that up at their I-Deal Games site .... publicity would be a bit limited but at least all revenue minus CC processing company fees & bandwidth would be theirs.

Main problem with this sort of operation is piracy especially if the download is relatively small.

If legal proceedings by I-Deal against SF are concluded Romualdas may now be able to explain those mysterious & annoying bugs in Wildfire.

Ah, Fred, there is only one bug in this game - Strategy First...

I told it before somwhere - SF sent game to shelves without our approval while QA tests were unfinished - Games Factory's testers were at the first quarter of the game at those time - the most advanced of them got Chitsena and Cambria... Due of it all the people who bought the game become a beta tester and during first three month after release all we were able to do was issuing of quik fixes and collecting of bug reports for patch - what happens then you all know yourselves...

Report message to a moderator

Corporal

Re: Contract between i-Dial Games and SF is terminated[message #104582]

Mon, 11 October 2004 07:29

Aecho

Messages:261
Registered:August 2003
Location: The Netherlands, Europe

Man, you`re so full of it. There was about a dozen people on this board and "another" board, including me, saying the game was not properly beta-tested. No you said, that's not true, no, no, no to everything we said. And now you are taking it all back in one post just because you can blame Strategy First now? Bah...

Report message to a moderator

Master Sergeant

Re: Contract between i-Dial Games and SF is terminated[message #104583]

Tue, 12 October 2004 01:46

Romualdas Arm

Messages:53
Registered:June 2001
Location: Tyumen, Russia

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. Headshot:
Man, you`re so full of it. There was about a dozen people on this board and "another" board, including me, saying the game was not properly beta-tested. No you said, that's not true, no, no, no to everything we said. And now you are taking it all back in one post just because you can blame Strategy First now? Bah...

Man, did you really think that sides of commercial agreement will ever blame each other even if they know there are reasons for it? If it's so you r to grow up first. The difference of my current position with my previous posts are due I'm not tied by any agreement with SF now - I have no reasons to cover them anymore...

There are many 'interesting' details will be open to public very soon...

Report message to a moderator

Corporal

Re: Contract between i-Dial Games and SF is terminated[message #104584]

Tue, 12 October 2004 17:52

Corporal Clegg

Messages:8
Registered:October 2004
Location: Belarus

It's the way to hurt SF badly?? May be it's not very ethical to reveal such detailes for the public? After all it's your fault - I mean what happened between I-Deal and SF...

Report message to a moderator

Private

Re: Contract between i-Dial Games and SF is terminated[message #104585]

Tue, 12 October 2004 18:46

Tyco

Messages:188
Registered:September 2001
Location: Be'er Sheva, Israel

Maybe we should ask someone at SF thier side of the story.

Report message to a moderator

Staff Sergeant

Re: Contract between i-Dial Games and SF is terminated[message #104586]

Tue, 12 October 2004 19:17

Bane

Messages:201
Registered:May 2000
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada

Who cares who's at fault? The important thing from our (the consumer) point of view is who is going to support us (ie. put out the patch).

Report message to a moderator

Sergeant 1st Class

Re: Contract between i-Dial Games and SF is terminated[message #104587]

Tue, 12 October 2004 21:08

Aecho

Messages:261
Registered:August 2003
Location: The Netherlands, Europe

[/qb][/QUOTE]Man, did you really think that sides of commercial agreement will ever blame each other even if they know there are reasons for it? If it's so you r to grow up first. The difference of my current position with my previous posts are due I'm not tied by any agreement with SF now - I have no reasons to cover them anymore...

There are many 'interesting' details will be open to public very soon... [/QB][/QUOTE]

Even so you could have said something like "I am not at liberty to answer your question" But no, you'd rather give people, who were a lot politer then you and Mr. Wildfire by the way, a ban from the forum just because their criticism was right and knowing that pissed you off. Who needs to grow up huh?

Report message to a moderator

Master Sergeant

Re: Contract between i-Dial Games and SF is terminated[message #104588]

Fri, 15 October 2004 14:31

Rev1

Messages:203
Registered:October 2002
Location: Louisville, KY

Isn't there a site where games can be downloaded when their distributor goes out of business, or no longer supports the game?

Report message to a moderator

Sergeant 1st Class

Previous Topic:	Help with a couple of bugs....
Next Topic:	Tixa

Goto Forum:

-=] Back to Top [=-

Current Time: Fri Jan 24 00:15:36 GMT+2 2025

Total time taken to generate the page: 0.01855 seconds