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I gave weapons to militia![message #167841]

Mon, 17 December 2007 05:56

aelfewulf

Messages:20
Registered:December 2007
Location: Singapore

OH MY GOD! I just discovered how to give weapons and items to militia!!!
Left click the item in yr inventory, right click on a militia, the cursor will change, then left click on same militia.
Heh heh heh... :diabolical:

[Updated on: Mon, 17 December 2007 06:32] by Moderator

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Private 1st Class

Re: I gave weapons to militia![message #167852]

Mon, 17 December 2007 10:53

afp

Messages:75
Registered:November 2007

Do they use it? or you give them a machine gun and they still use pistols?

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Corporal

Re: I gave weapons to militia![message #167855]

Mon, 17 December 2007 11:13

Andris

Messages:79
Registered:October 2006
Location: Budapest, Hungary

If you leave the sector and come back, they wont have the stuff you gave them. Atleast thats what I experienced, so basically this is a dead end...

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Corporal

Re: I gave weapons to militia![message #167867]

Mon, 17 December 2007 14:03

aelfewulf

Messages:20
Registered:December 2007
Location: Singapore

Yes, they do continue to use the weapons! I arm my green militia with assault rifles, sniper rifles and grenades, then get them to follow me on the attack on an adjacent sector within Alma. I sit back, giving orders, spotting enemies, playing a commander's role. And that really changes my game play.
Now my mercs are like CIA operatives, training and arming militia, and they do the grunt work.

An interesting thing happened after the battle. The only militia guy promoted to cyan shirt lost all his equipment, even armor.

Usually they already have helmet and vest, so u can only give them leggings.

Another note: Im playing NewInv B5, and I have trouble giving them items like 30 round ammo mags and LBE items. 5 round sniper rifle mags are fine though. Items that they wont accept (no slots, i think) will automatically drop to the ground. Giving LBE items often results in CTD. On just one occasion, I try to give a 100 round drum mag, but it got dropped. I then put the drum mag into a saw pouch, then gave the saw pouch to him, finally he was able to accept.

Guy, do try it, and share yr experience.

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Private 1st Class

Re: I gave weapons to militia![message #167869]

Mon, 17 December 2007 14:07

Andris

Messages:79
Registered:October 2006
Location: Budapest, Hungary

Yes but anyone able to confirm what I wrote about the fact that they dont have the gear on them after you leave and reenter the sector again?

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Corporal

Re: I gave weapons to militia![message #167875]

Mon, 17 December 2007 14:26

aelfewulf

Messages:20
Registered:December 2007
Location: Singapore

Hey Andris u are right, I just tested it, their weapons get randomized everytime u leave and reenter sector. Sad

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Private 1st Class

Re: I gave weapons to militia![message #167877]

Mon, 17 December 2007 14:39

Andris

Messages:79
Registered:October 2006
Location: Budapest, Hungary

Militia would be a strong force if you could custom equip them but then, the Queens army would be weak...I guess this random thing is to "BALANCE" the odds:) Too bad... Smile

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Corporal

Re: I gave weapons to militia![message #167886]

Mon, 17 December 2007 15:41

aelfewulf

Messages:20
Registered:December 2007
Location: Singapore

Yeah, too bad...I'm abit disappointed.

And when u give them weapons, then redistribute them to another sector, their weapons get randomized again.

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Private 1st Class

Re: I gave weapons to militia![message #170282]

Thu, 10 January 2008 06:39

Badbru

Messages:63
Registered:January 2008
Location: Perth Australia

That's not entirely true about the weapon randomising thing. Yes they reset as noticed by a single dark blue veteran malitia being a woman in one battle and a man in the next yet, if they pick up a weapon and are then later killed, in a subsequent battle, that picked up weapon will fall to the ground again. So the game must remember malitia equipment on atleast some level. I've had this occurr many times defending I8 central SAM. I usually take that with Maddog after getting Dynamo and Shank from Tixa and Maddog and Shank stay there for the next 100 days defending attack after attack whilst my IMP takes off with Dynamo to go get Ira and "Start the game". Many times I've had malitia pick up a weapon in one battle, often before either merc could get it themselves, anoying me at the "Lost" weapon only to have it used by another random malitia the next battle and dropped when they're killed.

Okay so that's not the same as deliberatly arming them, but leaving good weapons around for them to pick up is worth it in my opinion and experience.

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Corporal

Re: I gave weapons to militia![message #172858]

Thu, 24 January 2008 17:22

Rednight

Messages:103
Registered:April 2004
Location: United States

Yeah there isn't much to the militia...You fight along side them and they don't remember you. I have even used medkits to keep badly wounded soldiers from dying, but you don't score any extra points with the locals.

It is a shame. I would like more interaction. Maybe when you get veteran militia you get the option to higher them as mercs...cheap but as mercs.

It would be nice to arm them especially after situations like wiping out the Hick's farm or killing Kingpins people. You have tons of weapons and they would help out the militia a lot.

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Sergeant

Re: I gave weapons to militia![message #172863]

Thu, 24 January 2008 17:55

Thor

Messages:420
Registered:February 2007
Location: Belgium

It would be nice indeed to arm them permanently. A limited pool per city (growing in time) could be a compromise. Bigger cities, bigger militia pools to start with and different growth.

Another thing I would like is that they would listen better and don't change their minds every new turn. When you order them to lie down, come, or go to some place that they don't change their minds the following turn.

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Master Sergeant

Re: I gave weapons to militia![message #172911]

Thu, 24 January 2008 23:11

Rednight

Messages:103
Registered:April 2004
Location: United States

Your right Thor...and it would be nice to have a weapons cache each city. An arsenal to store weapons. They use them when your not there and you can alway add or drop stuff off.

Also local heroes as character. Veterans can say stuff beyond the ususal banter. It would also be nice to teach them skills in mass. You have experts in things like martial arts, heavy weapons, and other skills they should be about to pass on those talents to a larger group.

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Sergeant

Re: I gave weapons to militia![message #173053]

Fri, 25 January 2008 15:41

JA fan

Messages:187
Registered:March 2007

Rednight

It is a shame. I would like more interaction. Maybe when you get veteran militia you get the option to higher them as mercs...cheap but as mercs.

Concerning this,you know that's impossible....The RPC list size would have to be changed.Accordingly to to the Ja1.13 developers,this is available only by code changes.And imagine the size of the RPC list if you have a LOT of veteran militia.... :wrysmiley:

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Staff Sergeant

Re: I gave weapons to militia![message #196742]

Sat, 20 September 2008 03:50

Rednight

Messages:103
Registered:April 2004
Location: United States

It would be cool if you could higher veteran security guard who worke don the island from the first game. The orginal Blue shirts...

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Sergeant

Re: I gave weapons to militia![message #196772]

Sat, 20 September 2008 14:44

Yoni

Messages:10
Registered:August 2008

Does it only work in 1.13? Tried in the official version and got the clock pointer, tried waiting a minute or 2 but the game didn't respond to anything except ALT-X.

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Re: I gave weapons to militia![message #196892]

Mon, 22 September 2008 05:51

FelixDrake

Messages:33
Registered:September 2008

So ... they randomize, but only if everyone ... leaves... so if, say, SHANK stays in sector...
A USE FOR SHANK!!! A USE FOR SHANK!!!! THREE CHEERS!!! A USE FOR SHANK!!!!!

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Private 1st Class

Re: I gave weapons to militia![message #196893]

Mon, 22 September 2008 06:00

Headrock

Messages:1757
Registered:March 2006
Location: Jerusalem

Actually Felix, that's not true. If Shank stays in Drassen, but you take your other mercs to somewhere else, and they go into a battle, then you'll load up the sector where they are, automatically unloading the sector where Shank is. His presence would then be useless.

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