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Depleted Uranium Ammo[message #190759]

Mon, 14 July 2008 18:28

Relentless707

Messages:41
Registered:July 2008
Location: Leeds UK

Has anyone used it ? If so which Calibres does it fit and where can you get it ? I've played JA2 1.13 a couple of times and haven't come accross it once Sad

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Corporal

Re: Depleted Uranium Ammo[message #190761]

Mon, 14 July 2008 18:35

foij

Messages:227
Registered:February 2007
Location: in a van, down by the riv...

I'm pretty sure DU ammo was removed a few versions back.

Also, it is sci-fi only and you can only buy it from BR's.

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Sergeant 1st Class

Re: Depleted Uranium Ammo[message #190776]

Mon, 14 July 2008 20:45

lockie

Messages:3709
Registered:February 2006
Location: Scotland

goddamn planet polluters , you'll burn in hellllllllll :pitchfork:
seriously , who needs DU ?

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Captain

Re: Depleted Uranium Ammo[message #190779]

Mon, 14 July 2008 20:53

Relentless707

Messages:41
Registered:July 2008
Location: Leeds UK

Ah, that must be why because I've been playing the game on Realistic, strange Depleted Uranium is not in that also since it is used in real world weaponry.. oh well

Thanks for the info either way

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Corporal

Re: Depleted Uranium Ammo[message #190791]

Mon, 14 July 2008 22:14

foij

Messages:227
Registered:February 2007
Location: in a van, down by the riv...

DU is used in large calibre shells, mounted on things like US aircraft and tanks.

The DU in game is for small arms like .50 cal, hence the sci-fi tag.

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Sergeant 1st Class

Re: Depleted Uranium Ammo[message #190812]

Tue, 15 July 2008 03:40

SpaceViking

Messages:751
Registered:January 2004
Location: Rochester, Minnesota, USA

DU only showed for a handful of guns and it wasn't that good. Last I checked it had been removed from the XML files but someone could add it back in.

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First Sergeant

Re: Depleted Uranium Ammo[message #190834]

Tue, 15 July 2008 09:33

Starwalker

Messages:758
Registered:October 2005
Location: Hannover, Germany

DU was removed for 10mm Auto, and it was deactivated for 7.62x37mm. There was no other DU ammo.

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First Sergeant

Re: Depleted Uranium Ammo[message #191303]

Sun, 20 July 2008 17:21

MikeThePro

Messages:175
Registered:November 2007
Location: Bulgaria

I also haven't found yet any DU rounds, but there're plenty of ways to use more sophisticated stuff than that.I doubt a 7.62mm DU round can match a .50 BMG fired from a Barrett M82 for example.

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Staff Sergeant

Re: Depleted Uranium Ammo[message #191305]

Sun, 20 July 2008 17:25

Headrock

Messages:1757
Registered:March 2006
Location: Jerusalem

It was really sweet, huge penetration and armor corrosion. Of course it also destroyed your gun while you were using it, kinda like AET. Hey, what ever happened to AET, anyway?

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Sergeant Major

Re: Depleted Uranium Ammo[message #191353]

Mon, 21 July 2008 09:59

Starwalker

Messages:758
Registered:October 2005
Location: Hannover, Germany

Headrock

It was really sweet, huge penetration and armor corrosion. Of course it also destroyed your gun while you were using it, kinda like AET. Hey, what ever happened to AET, anyway?

It's still there, why'd you ask?

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First Sergeant

Re: Depleted Uranium Ammo[message #191369]

Mon, 21 July 2008 12:43

Headrock

Messages:1757
Registered:March 2006
Location: Jerusalem

Hmmm 'cause I played an entire campaign and didn't see a single one.

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Sergeant Major

Re: Depleted Uranium Ammo[message #191383]

Mon, 21 July 2008 13:54

MikeThePro

Messages:175
Registered:November 2007
Location: Bulgaria

Hmmm the only place I used to get this type of ammo from is Bobby ray...Usually packing some for my merc's preferred handgun...

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Staff Sergeant

Re: Depleted Uranium Ammo[message #191400]

Mon, 21 July 2008 17:04

Starwalker

Messages:758
Registered:October 2005
Location: Hannover, Germany

Sometimes enemies drop it early in the game (when they are still using pistols).

When enemies are switching to rifles you cannot find AET anymore, of course.

And as it is most useful later in the game you'll need to buy it.

The concept of a backup gun loaded with AET ammo is hard to code for the AI, I'd guess (especially the decision when to use it).
And if Deidranna uses conscript soldiers then they'll probably not have a sidearm anyway. So it should only work for Elites, and it should be optional, if anyone decides to take up the task.

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First Sergeant

Re: Depleted Uranium Ammo[message #191406]

Mon, 21 July 2008 18:57

Uriens

Messages:344
Registered:July 2006

Maybe Headrock played DBB mod? AET ammo is not in it.

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Master Sergeant

Re: Depleted Uranium Ammo[message #191407]

Mon, 21 July 2008 19:06

Headrock

Messages:1757
Registered:March 2006
Location: Jerusalem

Hmmm I don't even know what DBB is. I simply updated my old JA2 installation off the SVN. I haven't seen any AET so far, not even on Bobby Ray's, and as I said I went through a whole campaign. Maybe I missed something? It's purple though, isn't it?

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Sergeant Major

Re: Depleted Uranium Ammo[message #191408]

Mon, 21 July 2008 19:14

foij

Messages:227
Registered:February 2007
Location: in a van, down by the riv...

Yup. AET is purple. It comes in most pistol calibres, 9mm, .40 S&W, 10mm, 5.7mm, etc.
Enemies do carry it on occasion. Check the enemyammochoices.xml file, and see if AET is listed (it should be by default). While you're there, I would also enable flechette ammo. It's fun!

The DBB mod is a chinese-made mod for 1.13. It adds hundreds more guns and attachments.

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Sergeant 1st Class

Re: Depleted Uranium Ammo[message #191410]

Mon, 21 July 2008 19:24

Uriens

Messages:344
Registered:July 2006

Headrock

Hmmm I don't even know what DBB is. I simply updated my old JA2 installation off the SVN. I haven't seen any AET so far, not even on Bobby Ray's, and as I said I went through a whole campaign. Maybe I missed something? It's purple though, isn't it?

The only other thing that comes to mind is that you didn't turn Sci-Fi mode on. I think AET has Sci-Fi tag.

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Master Sergeant

Re: Depleted Uranium Ammo[message #191415]

Mon, 21 July 2008 20:01

foij

Messages:227
Registered:February 2007
Location: in a van, down by the riv...

AET shouldn't have the sci-fi tag, unless its been added in recent updates.

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Sergeant 1st Class

Re: Depleted Uranium Ammo[message #191420]

Mon, 21 July 2008 20:55

Headrock

Messages:1757
Registered:March 2006
Location: Jerusalem

Quote:

The only other thing that comes to mind is that you didn't turn Sci-Fi mode on. I think AET has Sci-Fi tag.

Bingo.

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Sergeant Major

Re: Depleted Uranium Ammo[message #191427]

Mon, 21 July 2008 23:26

Morbo

Messages:31
Registered:May 2008

Nope. Playing 1.13 2085 + NIV, and have "SciFi" turned OFF. I've cleared Drassen, Chitzena, and Cambria + all 3 SAMs. Bobby-Ray's now has AET ammo for sale in all of the pistol calibres. (can't remember what setting bobby-ray is on, but i think it's just one step down from the one where he sells everything right away)

Silenced SMG + AET = instant red shirt blood pools. Smile

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Private 1st Class

Re: Depleted Uranium Ammo[message #191445]

Tue, 22 July 2008 01:07

foij

Messages:227
Registered:February 2007
Location: in a van, down by the riv...

Yup. AET is a very effective ammo type. It has the same armor penetration of AP (armor is only 75% effective against AP rounds), and the damage potential of HP (actually slightly better than HP ammo). HP is 1.5 times as effective against unarmored/flesh targets, whereas AET is 1.7 times as effective, and glaser is 3 times as effective. However, armor is 150% effective at stopping glaser rounds, which is why they suck, except against bloodcats.

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Sergeant 1st Class

Re: Depleted Uranium Ammo[message #191478]

Tue, 22 July 2008 10:00

Starwalker

Messages:758
Registered:October 2005
Location: Hannover, Germany

AET is /not/ tagged as SciFi.

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First Sergeant

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