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But guessed right

The same should apply to the SOCOM pistol (.45 ACP is inherently subsonic).

The problem is that the JA2 engine has only one source of noise, whereas in the real world there are several involved with firing a shot.
But splitting up the noises would need a better physics engine...

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Yeah, I'm not necessarily looking for any manner of 'improvement' of the 9x39 over the other subsonics. I personally think the VSS Vintorez is possibly the finest gun in the game, and this is from the typing fingers of a HUGE FA-MAS fan. It possesses good damage (esp. with the penetrative quality of SAP rounds) against even the heaviest armor, quite sufficient range for assault and all but the silliest sniper work, a good autofire rate, about the highest degree of Accuracy for a full-auto capable weapon, the ability to mount either a battle OR a sniper scope, foregrip option to tame its wild autofire, bipod option, trigger group for effective burst fire if you go for sci-fi stuff, a bitchin Dragunov-style look, a large capacity for a sniping weapon, an acceptable capacity for an assault rifle, a light weight for a full-size rifle at 2.6 kilos empty, and integral flash/sound suppression.

The downsides: no ability to fit reflex sights, folding stock, or ACOG Combo, so you're looking at a basement standard AP cost of 10. This is somewhat slow compared to the veritable testosterone-driven jock rifles available in 5.56 NATO and 5.45 Soviet, and even uncommonly in 7.62 WP, but against the highest-grade ballistics protection, you're going to experience top-shelf performance from the SAP ammo.

So yeah, if I had to choose between a VSS Vintorez or even AS Val and a SL9 or Vychlop, I'd take the Vintorez any day, even if you told me I could have an endlessly replenishable ammo supply for the Vychlop. The Vintorez is kind of the jack of all trades gun in 1.13, defeated in every category by some other weapon while making it onto the notables list in basically every applicable category.

It's strange, but besides the FA-MAS I'm really a much bigger fan of Russian stuff over NATO. It's like playing Terrans or Zerg. You know that playing Terrans is the moral thing to do, but the Zerg are just so much cooler. And deadlier.

And according to a propaganda report by George W. Bush and co, circa 2001 Afganhistan invasion, French people are enemies of freedom anyway because they opposed the hasty invasion of nations that would put heavy bootfalls on the glass bottom of the already delicate situation. Therefore, they're lumped in with Russians anyway. As an American, I must be brainwashed into believing that they are inherently evil, and therefore, their standard battle rifle is infinitely cooler anyway.

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The Bugle is a damn fine weapon in this game. Though I wouldn't mind seeing the G1 and current G2 picatinny. Also the sniper version wouldn't go amiss much. They are very hardy rifles. Strangely though in-game they outperform the L85A2 even though when clean it is a superior rifle (in stock config obviously). Personally I am a bit of an HK fan (mainly for the G11) but I also like the L85A2, FA-MAS and the Steyr AUG too. Have a thing for bullpup rifles. Make so much more sense when you think about it. But I still think that side entry mags on a bullpup would be the best yet with a L/R switchable entry point and angled ejection ports. But hey not gonna happen soon.

Personally the VSS Vintorez is pretty boring. It is the jack of all trades, but it reduces the game to a night time headshot fest. I used to play night ops exclusively. I used to get really frustrated if I even got wounded as it meant my plan had gone wrong (normally due to a silly error or wrong click!). Thing is I wouldn't mind making the 9x39 cartridges SS as IRL they are. Same with the .45ACP cartridges. Give them a silence bonus and if you need the guns to be louder make them louder in their profiles.



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Congrats, Kaerar. And yes, the L85 is supposed to be a fine paragon of bullpup firearms. Too bad it's a moody, unreliable paragon, from the widespread testaments I've found, even after they supposedly 'fixed' it.

Ironically, my roommate bought a high-quality L85A2 airsoft gun, and it took a crap on him in record time.

I don't really use night ops as widely as many, perhaps because I play a highly defensive game. However, I find the Vintorez to be a nice beast for day ops. Actually, I think silent weapons are great for day ops, as it lets you thin the herd before the heat comes down on you.

I agree on your potential fix for the subsonic cartridges. Especially because the Vychlop is absurdly powerful and yet silent as night. I don't disagree with the absurdly powerful, but the amount of suppression you would have to have to make a subsonic round with that much power and range that silent...it boggles the mind. I still haven't found any clippings of a VSSK in action, but I'm still looking.

Maybe upgrading the sound identification engine in the future is something to look into. Maybe not.

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