| A question from a veteran noobie[message #213726]
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Tue, 21 April 2009 12:09 
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| Deathsangel |
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Hello to all the members of the Bear's Pit Forums,
I've been here several times lurking over a few years even, but I decided today to sign up.
Why?
Well, I have played JA2 and JA2UB for a while now, and wanted something more.
Knowning from my own experience from modding BG2 and Arcanum I was sure some cool things would have been made.
With joy I play Rubicon for JA2UB now (even if I sometimes get CTD's when talking to people & having to modify one map as it wouldn't load (SAM site)).
So, I also wanted to see if I could challange myself with a new JA2. I mean after knowning a lot of tricks in the books, I have even made a mercenary without any cheats that got so sick stats it almost wasn't funny anymore  (several 90's (like 99 mark.) and even 2 100's).
So I wanted to try Deidranna lives, and I had been looking forward to it (I have it longer, but I wanted to finish the game with 10 lives (and thinking of replaying one), but I wanted to do so in JA 1.13.... but that doesn't install saying it requires mod.dll.
That suprises me for why does it need a dynamic library link from a mod? What is this old veteran doing wrong, and how can I install it?
With secondly what is nice editing program? I have used JAPE in the old days (to modify my merc for specials (i.e. heavy weapons). However that doesn't run on XP. So downloading JA2AIO it needs an imp.dat, which I can not find... neither does it seem I can modify saved games. Which I want to do because I always got normaly personallity even if I aimed with the questions for another one (I have the list on how to do that), but that may due to flawed dutch version I used to play.
I hope that the board is so kind as to tell this old fool where I need to go for a nice savegame editor and how to install 1.13.
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| Re: A question from a veteran noobie[message #213926]
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Thu, 23 April 2009 14:41 
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| cougar |
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If you want camouflage for your I.M.P you can select it when you make him/her (or them, you can have up to three of each now). If you want it for another merc, edit the prof.dat file, do a search and you will find instructions on that. But camouflage is probably the worst skill to have in 1.13 as they added two other camouflages, desert and urban. Selecting camouflage will prevent you from using these so your camouflage will only be effective in woodland areas.
To edit the personality you want to turn to the ja2options.ini in your data-1.13 folder, there you will be able to select anything you want. See this thread for information on the benefits and drawbacks for each personality.
SVN means Subversion, more information here.
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| Re: A question from a veteran noobie[message #214156]
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Sat, 25 April 2009 19:03
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| cougar |
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Logistericyes, even in vanilla
len doesn't learn anything - guess why he still a corporal, not even lance corporal
Lance corporal is the rank below corporal. Besides he wouldn't be able to get to the rank of lance corporal as the US army doesn't use it anymore. I believe they did use it a couple of years during the Vietnam war (or around that time at least).
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| Re: A question from a veteran noobie[message #214159]
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Sat, 25 April 2009 19:11
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| Logisteric |
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tosa - robert a. heinlein, starship troopers (the book): a corporal is promoted to lance corporal (iirc) and buys a farm immediately afterwards (I DID NOT CHECK THAT - the ranks). can't you believe that an example (even a would-be wrong one) is not more than that - an example. and btw did i ever say i was talking about the us army?
Logisteric
gna-gna: your right - as usual - don't you have anything else to use your time for? guess lenn was in nam, though.
and btw: in german any rank with more words is more (bull?) - forget about the unterleutnant, will you
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| Re: A question from a veteran noobie[message #214179]
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Sat, 25 April 2009 22:21
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Logisterictosa - robert a. heinlein, starship troopers (the book): a corporal is promoted to lance corporal (iirc) and buys a farm immediately afterwards (I DID NOT CHECK THAT - the ranks). can't you believe that an example (even a would-be wrong one) is not more than that - an example. and btw did i ever say i was talking about the us army?
Logisteric
Well first of all he was in the US Army so it would be strange if he got a promotion to lance corporal in the Indian or British Army. Secondly I was merely pointing out the mistake, obviously you thought that lance corporal was superior to corporal (if you knew before then this just got way more interesting) but now you know so learn from it or not. I don't care either way. Oh and feel free to point out my own mistakes, I love to learn and I'm not offended when corrected, happens to me almost every day.
Logisteric
gna-gna: your right - as usual - don't you have anything else to use your time for? guess lenn was in nam, though.
I guess that post took about a minute to write, so no I didn't have anything else to do.
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| Re: A question from a veteran noobie[message #214181]
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Sat, 25 April 2009 22:24
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| Logisteric |
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Headrockgna-gna?
onomatopoetic - that sound that comes out between your teeth, when you have to admit something.
edith: may be it came into german language (as a lot of things) with the translation of donald-duck-strips, done by dr. erika fuchs, which are some of the best translations into german, that were ever done. this gna-gna(-gna) comes usually from him when his nephews read to him from their 'boy-scout-bible'.
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| Re: A question from a veteran noobie[message #214229]
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Sun, 26 April 2009 16:55
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| Deathsangel |
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HeadrockQuote:A bit of side question by the way. Did anyone ever manage to get 100 marksmanship?
Yes, it's quite possible, but you have to shoot a lot. Statistically, you should get 100 marksmanship within 2500 shots you fire when you're at level 99. Of course, taking hard shots (I.E. shooting with very low CtH and hitting the target) will accelerate it somewhat. And 2500 is just a statistic. You could in theory go from Marks. 99 to Marks. 100 within only 25 shots. But if you manage to do this, your Karma is probably all screwed up.
Hm, how odd. I had a guy with 99 marksmanship with 200 kills... He went all the way up to 500 kills and still did not go to 100 marksmanship. Guess I took to easy shots. With the current person I am trying to also make more difficult shots.
Also, thanks on the vanilla manner that Len indeed can not go up in any skill at all. It is mainly the marksmanship that annoyed me somewhat, as 83 is not much at the end of the game. The rest of his skills are good enough that it does not matter too much.
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| Re: A question from a veteran noobie[message #214233]
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Sun, 26 April 2009 17:32
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| Deathsangel |
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usrbidHi Deathsangel, Do a clean install of the vanilla JA2, you can also do a file copy of an install, it'll work as well. Then extract the 1.13 into the same directory. Kaerar has a one click install of the latest SVN if you want to play the latest version. You can also extract into a separate directory and then do a file copy, just make sure you overwrite the existing files if asked to.
I think something is still going wrong. I tried two ways.
Re-installing Vanilla JA2 and than unpacking ja2_rel_en_2112.rar in the same folder. This fails due to the missing of fmod.dll
Than I tried again, updating it to version 1.07 and dutch_to_english patch first before unzipping it in the same folder. However, I noticed the warning stating somethinb about JA2 gold. However, as stated in my signature I am an old guy. I don't have the gold version... Is that perhaps preventing me from updating to the latest version? Or is the ja2_rel_en_2112.rar the wrong file?
Sorry, to be this blasting annoying...
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| Re: A question from a veteran noobie[message #214606]
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Thu, 30 April 2009 08:37
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Hi Deathsangel, I believe that you cannot use your old save game with most of the new EXEs.
There are also different versions of JA2, I believe the Steam version had some problems, not sure if this is still the case.
The way to test if your game works is:
1. install JA2 from your e.g. original CD ROM
2. RAR the entire directory for backup
3. start a new game, see if it works
4. delete the directory and un-RAR to restore to before you started a game
5. then repeat the above process with each patch you install
I wouldn't use the save game to determine if the game works at all. Start a new game, use GABBI cheats (on the 1.13 wiki) to kill all enemies, teleport, kill more, check if Bobby Ray's is working, etc.
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| Re: A question from a veteran noobie[message #215645]
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Wed, 06 May 2009 22:57
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| Deathsangel |
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Hm, I will check that. Thanks to both of you.
I would like to state, as it seems I could not make it entirely clear (as usrbid seems to have missunderstood), that the saves I tried to play were of the 1.07 version. So they should have worked.
- I orginally opened the topic in order to play 1.13. However, I can not make that work.
- Than retrying to install it as normal, it went wrong as I could not play a new game or an old save. This due to the fact I could not enter AIM anymore as that gave a CTD.
Thus, I did not base my assesment of the game working on the fact if the old saves games worked in a newer version Still, logical to give as an advice and I will use your systematic approach.
HeadrockQuote:Hm, how odd. I had a guy with 99 marksmanship with 200 kills... He went all the way up to 500 kills and still did not go to 100 marksmanship. Guess I took to easy shots. With the current person I am trying to also make more difficult shots.
Since it's all based on random number rolling, if you throw away statistical probability, it's possible that you'll NEVER reach 100 marksmanship. But it does happen.
To actually come back to the 100 Marksman thing. I made it! A few fights for the end even.
RizzlaDon't give up yet. Did you install something over something else? Safest bet is to always start a new game and even better, to always start with a clean install. If you can get your version to 1.07 it should be no problem installing 1.13 over it. If you need a Gold version for some reason, you can try the patch found here: http://members.lycos.co.uk/dvornik/ (v1.03 to v1.12 update).
If you want to play Deidranna Lives or Urban Chaos, those have not been converted to 1.13 yet. You'll just have to get the original running and then install the mod you like, there should be helpful instructions in the appropiate subforums. And if you have UB you should definitely try the Vietnam SOG'69 mod.
Thanks for the link.
As said at first though I could not get 1.13 working over 1.07
Now I can not get 1.07 working though. Man this is bad.
As to Vietnam mod, I tried it at first but I did not like it so much. I know it is a big hit, but I am just not found of what they did with the weapons or the NPC's.
I am now slightly ill - so I guess I have the time to try it tomorrow.
I will come back to talk about the result.
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