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Toolbox somewhere?[message #214504]

Wed, 29 April 2009 15:55

Thor

Messages:423
Registered:February 2007
Location: Belgium

Would like to find a toolbox in the beginning of the game, any place where I can find one?
(Don't want to hire or edit mercs/IMPs for it)

[Updated on: Wed, 29 April 2009 15:55] by Moderator

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Master Sergeant

Re: Toolbox somewhere?[message #214505]

Wed, 29 April 2009 15:58

SpaceViking

Messages:751
Registered:January 2004
Location: Rochester, Minnesota, USA

Use the ExtraItem XML file support (see my web page) to add one to a sector you haven't visited. Or change Tony to carry them.

Other than that there is sometimes one in the mine in Chitzena.

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First Sergeant

Re: Toolbox somewhere?[message #214506]

Wed, 29 April 2009 15:58

Off_Topic

Messages:997
Registered:January 2009

There is a random chance of finding one in Drassen mine. At the very beginning that's the only place i ever found one.

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First Sergeant

Re: Toolbox somewhere?[message #214507]

Wed, 29 April 2009 16:03

Thor

Messages:423
Registered:February 2007
Location: Belgium

Thanks for the answers guys Wink

I'll try to add one, SpaceViking Wink

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Master Sergeant

Re: Toolbox somewhere?[message #214514]

Wed, 29 April 2009 16:21

Will Gates

Messages:1012
Registered:September 2006
Location: Far far away.

Mine authority shed in the Kingpin map of San Mona... not always there and the lock on the door is tough early on in the game.

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Sergeant Major

Re: Toolbox somewhere?[message #214516]

Wed, 29 April 2009 16:28

Gorro der Grüne

Messages:1448
Registered:March 2009
Location: Broadwurschd-City

2 of IMPs got one (allthough their dexterity is below 10 (together)

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Sergeant Major

Re: Toolbox somewhere?[message #214517]

Wed, 29 April 2009 16:29

Thor

Messages:423
Registered:February 2007
Location: Belgium

Aha, that's where I need one... Handy if you go in the beginning of the game to San Mona to get some cash and weapons... Thanks Smile

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Master Sergeant

Re: Toolbox somewhere?[message #214519]

Wed, 29 April 2009 16:35

Marlboro Man

Messages:1156
Registered:October 2005
Location: USA

It's not always there though. Luck of the random map thing. And it's pretty much always about spent too, when you do happen to get it. Also if your lucky with the random map thing, you can sometimes find one in one of the houses in the same sector that Tony is in.

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Sergeant Major

Re: Toolbox somewhere?[message #214525]

Wed, 29 April 2009 17:28

SpaceViking

Messages:751
Registered:January 2004
Location: Rochester, Minnesota, USA

BTW, I consider this one of the early game flaws in JA2. Not having toolkits around really punishes the player at what is probably the hardest part of the game. It's not like later in the game where you can sit back and take a few days to repair everything without a care. Early on that time is crucial so you have to balance repair now or get going. Well, it would be a balance except there aren't any toolkits.

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First Sergeant

Re: Toolbox somewhere?[message #214528]

Wed, 29 April 2009 17:33

Gorro der Grüne

Messages:1448
Registered:March 2009
Location: Broadwurschd-City

There are a lot of mercs who do have toolkits in their inventory.

If the player is punished it is done (in Mr. Cordona's words) rightfully so.

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Sergeant Major

Re: Toolbox somewhere?[message #214529]

Wed, 29 April 2009 17:40

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Messages:997
Registered:January 2009

Thor

Would like to find a toolbox in the beginning of the game, any place where I can find one?
[color:#009900](Don't want to hire or edit mercs/IMPs for it)[/color]

SpaceViking

BTW, I consider this one of the early game flaws in JA2. [color:#009900] Not having toolkits around really punishes the player at what is probably the hardest part of the game[/color]. It's not like later in the game where you can sit back and take a few days to repair everything without a care. Early on that time is crucial so you have to balance repair now or get going. Well, it would be a balance except there aren't any toolkits.

That's how i normally get around this, i insert with Wolf on the team, then hire Gasket when i have taken Drassen. I order a Toolkit from B.Rays in the meantime.

I start off with two toolkits and good mechanics so they last a long time. Problem solved, for me anyway.

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First Sergeant

Re: Toolbox somewhere?[message #214550]

Wed, 29 April 2009 19:48

Thor

Messages:423
Registered:February 2007
Location: Belgium

Thanks all of ya...

As Marlboro says, there's one in Tony's sector. It's in the building right behind it... (Depends on luck, of course).

As Wil says, there's one in the shed of Kingpin's sector as well... about 30% full.

So I travel there and depending on finding a toolbox I buy new or partially used weapons from Tony.

For the curious.. my team consists of Barry (to repair and unlock doors), Bull (to do the main fighting at Kingpin's) & Ira (to carry stuff and deal with Tony, while training).

[Updated on: Wed, 29 April 2009 19:55] by Moderator

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Master Sergeant

Re: Toolbox somewhere?[message #214729]

Thu, 30 April 2009 21:36

Badbru

Messages:63
Registered:January 2008
Location: Perth Australia

It's one of many reasons I allmost allways make Estoni my first stop. You get Maddog for free who has a toolkit and you can allmost allways buy a 30%>55% toolkit from Jake.

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Corporal

Re: Toolbox somewhere?[message #214732]

Thu, 30 April 2009 22:10

SpaceViking

Messages:751
Registered:January 2004
Location: Rochester, Minnesota, USA

If you have to have special knowledge in-game (which most of us have) then something is set up poorly. That's one of the reasons I don't like the Drassen counter attack.

[Updated on: Thu, 30 April 2009 22:11] by Moderator

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First Sergeant

Re: Toolbox somewhere?[message #214771]

Fri, 01 May 2009 07:03

Thor

Messages:423
Registered:February 2007
Location: Belgium

Yeps, the Drassen counter attack is something out of proportion.. You don't expect it that soon in the game. On the other hand it is REALLY fantastic, especially as you don't have the best gear yet...

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Master Sergeant

Re: Toolbox somewhere?[message #215159]

Mon, 04 May 2009 17:04

DNA from the Lowlands

Messages:337
Registered:July 2003

? if the enemyitemchoices.file would have a toolkit ?
could that
a) balance things at the beginning ?
b) flud you with those redboxes after some battles.

edit/added after reading the reply below:
I fear that Gasket or Dimitri will just get confused (again) when there's many toolboxes.

[Updated on: Mon, 04 May 2009 17:39] by Moderator

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Master Sergeant

Re: Toolbox somewhere?[message #215164]

Mon, 04 May 2009 17:36

Logisteric

Messages:3199
Registered:December 2008
Location: B

there is no such thing as too many toolboxes

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Captain

Re: Toolbox somewhere?[message #221412]

Tue, 16 June 2009 18:43

Kaerar

Messages:2021
Registered:January 2003
Location: Australia :D

Actually the surprise of the DCA is fantastic. I still remember my first time (hmm so many innuendos!) fighting through it. Due to not having great tactics I ended up cornered in the bar and it took hours to complete. Last time around though I had HAM and it was genuinely great fun Smile

Maybe there should be a toolbox in the rebel hideout, or at least a percentage chance of finding a low-mid level toolbox.

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Lieutenant

Re: Toolbox somewhere?[message #221421]

Tue, 16 June 2009 19:20

coffeecommander

Messages:86
Registered:June 2009
Location: Europe, and pitying you.

Logisteric

there is no such thing as too many toolboxes

Thanks to the BR Shipping replication bug I just received about forty of them. Since this slows my game, I dare challenge your statement!

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Corporal 1st Class

Re: Toolbox somewhere?[message #224497]

Wed, 01 July 2009 02:16

dbonar

Messages:47
Registered:June 2006

Isn't there a chance of one at the Drassen airport?

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Corporal

Re: Toolbox somewhere?[message #224533]

Wed, 01 July 2009 09:39

Logisteric

Messages:3199
Registered:December 2008
Location: B

in the mine afaik

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Captain

Re: Toolbox somewhere?[message #224538]

Wed, 01 July 2009 10:11

Kaerar

Messages:2021
Registered:January 2003
Location: Australia :D

There's one in the mine usually and rarely one in the hanger with Waldo.

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Lieutenant

Re: Toolbox somewhere?[message #224556]

Wed, 01 July 2009 12:19

Off_Topic

Messages:997
Registered:January 2009

Starwalker

BTW, I consider this one of the early game flaws in JA2. Not having toolkits around really punishes the player at what is probably the hardest part of the game.

It's part of the charm if you ask me, no matter how many times you play JA, you'll never have exactly the same path/choice to make.

Sometimes you find a Tool Kit in Drassen Mine, sometimes you don't. Either way, all these random items/enemies make each run through unique.

It would be a lesser, more linear game if you knew where everything was.

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First Sergeant

Re: Toolbox somewhere?[message #225885]

Mon, 06 July 2009 20:22

Laclongquan

Messages:75
Registered:April 2007

Is the placement of toolboxes and other items in a sector determined at the start of the game or at the first time we enter a sector?

And the rumour about items in a sector can be regeneated after a (very long) time is correct or not?

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Corporal

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