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Enemies seem to come out through solid wall[message #225825]

Mon, 06 July 2009 15:56

zeland

Messages:6
Registered:July 2009
Location: Malaysia

Disarm the trap just in front of Fi and a few moments later, a soldier appears out of thin air as if she just walked through the wall.

SaveGame02.sav.bz2

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Private

Re: Enemies seem to come out through solid wall[message #225913]

Mon, 06 July 2009 23:43

mgl

Messages:255
Registered:December 2007
Location: France

Sector Fi ?

But you are not alone.

I have seen enemies go through the wall of one of the the guards rooms in the corners of the arena in Meduna (after I disarmed the traps). I have seen Dimitri go through a wall in the destroyed high school of Cambria too. For Dimitri, there was no enemy in the sector and I couldn't do it again. For the arena, I didn't keep a savegame of the turn before I disarmed the traps.

I didn't notice anything wrong in these maps, on the contrary to the weapons cache in M9 where there is a missing wall behind the sink.

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Master Sergeant

Re: Enemies seem to come out through solid wall[message #225914]

Mon, 06 July 2009 23:52

Shanga

Messages:3480
Registered:January 2000
Location: Danubia

Might be a wall with bad/missing JSD file. Aka made of thin air and pixels.
I'll load that map in editor and take a look, seems a map error rather than an exe one.

EDIT: I cannot load you savegame, it shows location as ???? and it crashes the moment i load it on r6233. You sure this is a Stracciatella game we're talking about? What distribution are you using?

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{ 11470 } Assertion Failure [Line 11 in Build/Strategic/Campaign_Types.h]

This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way.
Please contact the application's support team for more information.

[Updated on: Mon, 06 July 2009 23:57] by Moderator

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Captain

Re: Enemies seem to come out through solid wall[message #225966]

Tue, 07 July 2009 08:31

Tron

Messages:225
Registered:August 2007
Location: Germany

zeland

Disarm the trap just in front of Fi and a few moments later, a soldier appears out of thin air as if she just walked through the wall.

SaveGame02.sav.bz2

Thanks for the report and savegame. I can reproduce the problem and I'll investigate.

Shanga

EDIT: I cannot load you savegame, it shows location as ???? and it crashes the moment i load it on r6233. You sure this is a Stracciatella game we're talking about? What distribution are you using?

Savegames from the Windows version cannot be loaded with other versions and vice versa. They save strings differently (2 byte per char vs. 4 byte per char). This is an issue which still needs to be tackled.

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Sergeant 1st Class

Re: Enemies seem to come out through solid wall[message #225970]

Tue, 07 July 2009 09:23

mgl

Messages:255
Registered:December 2007
Location: France

Shanga

Might be a wall with bad/missing JSD file. Aka made of thin air and pixels.
I'll load that map in editor and take a look, seems a map error rather than an exe one.

That's what I first thought too, but since I couldn't do it again with Dimitri, it could be that the pathfinder sometimes finds it easier to walk through impassable objects.

I've read posts about JSD recently. Are the tools to see the real structure of the pictured objects available on Windows only ?

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Master Sergeant

Re: Enemies seem to come out through solid wall[message #225973]

Tue, 07 July 2009 09:33

Kaerar

Messages:2021
Registered:January 2003
Location: Australia :D

Unfortunately the editor is DotNet dependent.

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Lieutenant

Re: Enemies seem to come out through solid wall[message #225994]

Tue, 07 July 2009 13:11

Tron

Messages:225
Registered:August 2007
Location: Germany

The problem seems to be a vanilla bug, because release 0.1 shows the same behaviour. I have to investigate further to find the cause for this.

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Sergeant 1st Class

Re: Enemies seem to come out through solid wall[message #230191]

Sun, 02 August 2009 07:11

zeland

Messages:6
Registered:July 2009
Location: Malaysia

I myself seem to be able to walk through solid wall. If you select my merc, Spike and click anywhere on the opposite side of the building he is currently behind, he'll walk THROUGH it.

Savegame

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Private

Re: Enemies seem to come out through solid wall[message #230356]

Tue, 04 August 2009 16:41

mgl

Messages:255
Registered:December 2007
Location: France

Indeed.

And with the BETA and TEST compile-time options enabled, when you click somewhere to move your merc, a green message says something like "Spike (0): path can't get merc to dest". I could go through the wall of the residential building close to him too.

When the message doesn't show anymore, the merc loses his ability to cross walls.

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Master Sergeant

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