| What if this was called 7.62 BIA or Hired Guns BIA?[message #297649]
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Thu, 02 February 2012 16:56 
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 SuperDeath |
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I have been playing the demo since yesterday and I have some gripes. The camera controls are unintuitive, no FOW sucks, P&G works but turn based is still more fun. My thought though is that the game is still fun, I have enjoyed the demo and I am eagerly awaiting the release. I think everyone is just hung up on the fact that they named it Jagged Alliance. If this was a different name I think the vast majority of people would be telling everyone to check out this cool new game in the genre. I too wish they had made JA2 1.13 new and beautiful but it's not gonna happen. I am still glad that this venerable franchise has been resurrected! The developers have said they will not stop anyone from modding so why can't their engine be used to make JA2 BIA 1.13!!!!!!!!!!
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| Re: What if this was called 7.62 BIA or Hired Guns BIA?[message #297681]
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Thu, 02 February 2012 20:40 
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| LCJr. |
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SuperDeathThe game engine for 7.62 constantly frustrated me. I would constantly find situations were I could target the enemy and my merc would have outstanding chance to hit yet I would wing the side of the building or rock outcrop and the enemy would have no trouble popping me. I never could get grenade launchers to hit anything. Also there was no life to the game. The characters felt lifeless and uninteresting. The story was not interesting like the JA stories. The mercs in the demo appear to try and be close to the JA2 mercs( mod in the old portraits please someone).
Personally I got lot more enjoyment out of 7.62's combat than I did this game. The engine flaws and developer decisions frustrated the hell out of me but I kept going back for more for quite awhile. I have zero interest in revisiting BIA.
In my singular play through of demo I had two mercs hit once each that's only because I didn't realize I needed to keep repeating the shoot orders. The auto pause didn't seem to work or does checking the box turn it off? If that's so it's very counter intuitive and there isn't a tooltip. Every merc missed several times even with it showing high hit chances. So by your logic is BIA flawed/inferior? What life was there in the demo? A few catchphrases that got old fast is all I saw. Even Hired Guns had that. What story was there in the demo? Did I miss something?
To answer your original question. It doesn't matter what name you stick on it the game is simply bad. I'm guessing you pre-ordered it?
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| Re: What if this was called 7.62 BIA or Hired Guns BIA?[message #297686]
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Thu, 02 February 2012 22:37
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| LCJr. |
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If you really like the game then fine. Everyone has different tastes. I can also think of a lot reasons people wouldn't like 7.62. I can think of a lot things I hate about it.
SuperDeathI did pre-order because someone finally went and tried with JA again and I love the genre so I try to support efforts in the dying strategy genre so that companies will stop making everything a FPS.
I see this kind of argument getting thrown around a lot. "I'm supporting the franchise!" No your not. What your supporting is companies buying a recognizable franchise knowing they'll have people throw their money at it regardless of how bad it is. Either because of the name or the feeble hope the next one will better. You're not helping the JA franchise or the strategy genre all your doing is encouraging more of these kind of quick cash grabs.
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| Re: What if this was called 7.62 BIA or Hired Guns BIA?[message #297725]
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Fri, 03 February 2012 09:44
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| Fozzie |
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If you really enjoy the game, play it, for Pete's sakes. Noone will deny you that. Only, judging from your post, it seemed rather that you don't think it's that good but are going to purchase it in the hope that future titles of the franchise just might be satisfactory. I don't buy a game just because it is "bearable" so that I have something to do - I'd rather play an old game again or simply kill the time doing something entirely different, nobody forces me to spend my free time on games so I don't have to buy "anything" just to keep going. Being "perfect" does not determine whether somebody enjoys playing a game or not, that's everyone's own decision. But if I don't like a game enough to look past it's flaws, I just skip it.
After the initial nerd rage about the changes to the original concept, I personally might have been able to get that behind me and acknowledge the game on it's own merits - otherwise, I wouldn't have played the demo in the first place. Problem is, the game is just plain bad, though I do admit that for me to really like real-time, it would have to be extraordinary. But it isn't. I can see that even fans of the subgenre would consider it mediocre at best, with the awful controls etc.
And buying a game at full price more or less on the prospect that it might, perhaps, in the distant future, be modded into something decent, although moddability has been denied by the developers multiple times, is no option for me, either.
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