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Just tried it and it works !
I only had to rename it SaveGame.
Very much appreciated, i will see how advance vanilla play now

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[Updated on: Wed, 05 March 2014 22:06] by Moderator

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After some tries I manage to win the desert fight without almost any injuries (only 2 mercs very slightly wounded).
I use the trick to shoot in the wild to attract the opposition so i can interrupt them and shoot first instead of me coming to them.
But even then i found vanilla much harder.
I wonder if the AI interrupt chance have been modified in v1.13 because with the same sight range red shirts often spot me first while in 1.13 even without using scope/goggles (so same sight range) i used to spot them first.
Makes a big difference hehe.

I also tried a night fight and i was quite reassured to see that it was very easy.
Certainly not as easy than in vanilla 1.13 with night goggle v4, and other new stuffs that give you a night sight bonus, but as i had greatly nerfed all those i was at ease.
Next I should try a bigger fight daytime against elite to see how it works.

For me that have never played vanilla it's a great experience to be able to see the difference with 1.13 (which are bigger than i though).
I felt something was very wrong with the AI behavior/scopes and goggles sight range bonus/scopes magnification bonus in 1.13.
Already, without knowing vanilla, the previous tweaks i've done to 1.13 make it play much closer to the original.
With your save i'm going to tweak some more 1.13 to create my "personal optimal" mix.
Thanks again

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Glad to see that you're making progress. Btw, the savegame was not from my own playing.

If you haven't played Vanilla before, I would very much recommend you to give it a go. Maybe you could go straight for Stracciatella https://bitbucket.org/gennady/ja2-stracciatella since it offers 100% Vanilla content with an improved technical base (e.g. high resolution, cross-plattform compatibility, possibility to play in windowed or fullscreen mode and, and, and...).

Really, v1.13 and Vanilla are almost two completely different games. JA2 has always been rather complex. But if Vanilla was complex, v1.13 with all it's new content is... REALLY complex.

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After trying the various mods-ads, addons-upgrades, I am still playing the 1.03 version, the weapon-x's 8000+ 'mod'.Burst bug FTW.
As already well known, that particular save pits your merry band of mercs against more than 8000 Deidranna's goons in total. ALL landlocked sectors are populated with a minimum of 32 enemies, plus the normal garrison/patrol. Sometimes you face 60 enemies at once.A curious fact: apparently, the game engine has a limited number of spawn points/patrol routes for enemy soldiers for each sector. So, instead of spawning 60 enemies, the game spawns (I hink) about 30, and the rest slowly jump in the sector from the side you entered in! The first time it happened tome i was shocked: enemy incoming from behind my line?? WTF??
It was hilarious too, since it looked like they all were spawning from my icecream truck..which eneded up badly shot up after the battle
I tried daylight battles, I really did, employed my best men,tactics, smoke screens and longbarreled guns, but I always get kicked in the butt. Once the enemy pile up in front of me, its a matter of seconds before my mercs get law-ed, mortared, shot up to pieces.
The only way for me to enjoy this particular type of JA2 is to revert to 100% night ops. Except when I am defending a sector, but then, Deidranna's squads are 'just' 10-20 men big, so I can manage that.
In time, I lost those 8000+ and 8000Harder saves, but recently found them on an fossil-old zip-drive disc. haha, Iomega was a cool company, their disc drives still work after almost 15 years of collecting dust on my attic
P.S.
For a long time I played the 1.12 version (and wildfire/UC addons), and it was great. But the 8000+ game is (to me) unfun except on 1.03 version. the 1.12 brought a different A.I. which makes large use of break lights (which use I avoid in respect to the poorer A.I. in vanilla). And getting struck by half a dozen break lights per turn ruins my fun.Normal game ver.1.12 is ok, much much less enemies results in just a few lightsticks here and there, I can manage and counter-fight that, or use their own lighted areas against them.

[Updated on: Fri, 14 March 2014 23:58] by Moderator

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