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Mine Income too low?[message #332102]

Fri, 02 May 2014 18:12

dreamer2008

Messages:63
Registered:May 2010

I recently started replaying JA2 1.13 with the latest version (7178) and in this new game, I happily captured Drassen, the first SAM Site, found Skyrider... you know, basic stuff you do at the beginning.

But I noticed that the mine income is 1900 dollars per day. I have to admit that I haven't played in a while, but isn't this too low? I can barely afford to pay 3 weak mercs, without thinking about buying new (used) weapons, ammo, training militia...

[Updated on: Fri, 02 May 2014 18:14] by Moderator

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Corporal

Re: Mine Income too low?[message #332103]

Fri, 02 May 2014 18:19

rummtata

Messages:103
Registered:April 2011
Location: Germany

I think that may depend on your chosen difficulty setting. In any case, open the ini editor and take a look at the "Financial Settings" tab, you can set the mine income to x-percent of the vanilla setting. Whether this is completely savegame-comaptible, I can't say for sure, however.

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Sergeant

Re: Mine Income too low?[message #332107]

Fri, 02 May 2014 19:14

Gambigobilla

Messages:693
Registered:July 2008

Town loyalty affects mine income, you might need to increase loyalty for more money.

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First Sergeant

Re: Mine Income too low?[message #332108]

Fri, 02 May 2014 19:26

dreamer2008

Messages:63
Registered:May 2010

Loyalty is 88% (the enemies recaptured the airport, but I will solve that soon). But even if it was 100% and I got let's say 2200, its still not very much. The difficulty is experienced.

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Corporal

Re: Mine Income too low?[message #332112]

Fri, 02 May 2014 21:21

rummtata

Messages:103
Registered:April 2011
Location: Germany

For me it's 8000 from the Drassen mine (100% loyalty). My ini setting 100% vanilla, so I guess your's is lower? I don't remember whether that was 'default' or if I've changed it, all I can tell you is that I play on "Expert" with a lot of values tweaked for my personal playstyle, and I have more than enough money Wink

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Sergeant

Re: Mine Income too low?[message #332113]

Fri, 02 May 2014 21:32

JMich

Messages:546
Registered:January 2011
Location: Greece

Dreamer

(the enemies recaptured the airport, but I will solve that soon)

There's your problem. As I recall, the income is Base Income * Town Percentage Control * Town Loyalty. So if you own 2/3 sectors, then you only get 66% of base income, further modified by loyalty.
Still seems a bit low, so check how many of the sectors you actually control.

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First Sergeant

Re: Mine Income too low?[message #332114]

Fri, 02 May 2014 21:53

Flugente

Messages:3507
Registered:April 2009
Location: Germany

First, what JMich said. If your current mine income is 1900, you control 2/3 of the town and loyalty is 88%, then your total mine income will be about 3300$.

How much money a mine produces is randomised each campaign - see TableData/Scripts/initmines.lua. Basically, the Drassen mine max income per extraction (4 per day) is (1000 + x * 200)$. x depends on difficulty level and randomisation. This is rather troubling, however - your numbers indicate that the normal removal rate will be below 1000$. Which shouln't happen according to the script... Please check the numbers again.

An interesting side effect of that script is that if a mine's income is lower, then that of other mine's is higher. This means that in your case, other mines can be expected to yield more.

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Captain

Re: Mine Income too low?[message #332115]

Fri, 02 May 2014 22:31

dreamer2008

Messages:63
Registered:May 2010

That explains it... Thank you for these details, didn't knew this mechanism. In the past I just captured the towns completely, then filled them with militia before moving on, and didn't notice this calculation.

A few enemies moved in the middle sector in Drassen as well, but didn't think of them as worth considering for a while, the airport and the mine sectors being the important ones.

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Corporal

Re: Mine Income too low?[message #332141]

Sat, 03 May 2014 13:00

dreamer2008

Messages:63
Registered:May 2010

Indeed, the mine income became 7200$ after recapturing the whole of Drassen. Now after I defeated the counter-attack (wow, that counter-attack was even more brutal than I remember it), its time to build my forces properly.

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Corporal