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Re: Power-gaming Item Reference Page for Jagged Aliance 2 v1.13[message #366334 is a reply to message #361341] Sat, 21 December 2024 17:54 Go to previous message
Draconis13 is currently offline Draconis13
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Wow surprised I didn't have a login I used to come back here decades ago. Anyway I was looking at doing a 1.13 run as the last JA2 I did was ages ago and I noticed the weapon values are perhaps a bit off? Low tier AKM/AK47 rifles have better stats then the modernized versions of 7.62 AK's and 5.45 AK's have wonky discrepancies as well. I know this is going to be super pedantic but I just got off a JA3 kick a few months ago and I went to go mod that and the weapons have some really wonky engine issues, but I wanted to check out the weapon spread beforehand so lets get into things.

So AKM 32 Damage so 2 over C7/M16 long barrel but 33 range under the 37 of the 5.56 rifles as well. That tracks But the AK74 is 30 damage like 5.56 but 33 range just like the AKM. However when we get to the modern AK 100 series the values are all over  the place. We have the AK-103 and 104 with the 104 carbine being significantly shorter range even though its a 4 inch barrel difference at 33 vs 27 which is getting into SMG territory but the AK74u with its very short barrel is kicking at 28 range. Now its got a 5.45 going for it so I can see it going from 27->28 over base game. But the carbine 104 is not nearly as short. Similarly the H53 has a respectable 29 range inline with it being a scaled up SMG firing 5.56.

Continuing on the AK 105, 107 and 108 are treated like dressed up AK74s and a subpar 5.56 rifle and I can see them not have 37 range of the m16a2/C7 for obvious reasons of 20 inch barrel length. But the improved modern recoil system shouldn't be given them a Warsaw Pact rifle penalty. The AKS-47 and AKMS however avoid all this previous range penalty by having a smaller shorter rickety stock but have the same range and soft stats as the base AKM with less weight?

As I said before its pedantic but itemization is a core feature of the mod and some of the values just seemed off given they are carbines but not super short like the AKSU while older shorter carbines are treated more like full rifles.

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