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Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62035]

Thu, 22 April 2004 19:59

neyros

Messages:35
Registered:April 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. Headshot:

Can you post a link to the bug patch when it's done?

Ok.

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Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62036]

Fri, 23 April 2004 16:04

markpoll

Messages:101
Registered:November 2002
Location: sydney

If you haven't already, give this a try. It's a really nice mod. I speak no Russian and I'm having fun playing it.

Gameplay - It's hard, but not impossibly. I was jumped by a 4 man elite squad in the start sector and had to do the "wait till they come round the corner" trick, but then had 2 nice weapons to carry on with. The guns might be a bit overpowered, but they're loads of fun. The shotguns were great until I found decent auto weapons. There seem to be a lot more bgs in fixed positions and less on patrol, so you spend more time rooting them out.My tip would be start with at least one good shot and several doctors as it'll be a while before you find any medical supplies, at least if you take the route I took. Also, I'm not far in, but there don't seem to be any repair kits.

Bugs - I loaded it straight over the top of UB1.01 and haven't had any real problems. I had one grenade sound CTD, but get those in vanilla UB. The only thing other thing was unloading 7.62 x 54 ammo and having it come out as Nato 7.62, which wasn't so bad, as I had need of that. The gun it came out of though was sweet and I wish I had more ammo for it. Some sort of auto capable sniper rifle.

Language - you don't really need an English version to enjoy playing it, but the following would be good, to get the most out of it:

* a brief summary of the initial emails, so you know what you're supposed to be doing, rather than just wandering around killing anyone who doesn't speak English and looks suspicious.

* a short description of each of the NPCs re what their function is and how to solve any quests they may be offering. So far I've found a barman and what seems to be a hooker hanging around on a street corner outside the bar and think they just gave me info, but I've no idea what it was.

* a description of what combines with what. I think I'm figuring it out though. Armour wise, there seem to be 3 grades and upgrade components for each. Strangely, when I added to upgrade to grades 1 & 2, the armour rating went up, but when I added it to grade 3 it went down.

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Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62037]

Sat, 24 April 2004 03:35

Aecho

Messages:261
Registered:August 2003
Location: The Netherlands, Europe

There's 4 levels of armour but adding pouches to your vests decreases armor rating, but you will be able to carry more stuff in your vest. You can also use these pouches to enhance helmets and pants. You can make or find fireselectors, which replace the rod&spring idea. Repairkids are around though.

Weapons are in perfect balance if you ask me...As long as you don't run into a APC that is.

I can tell you will keep running into new weapons again and again. This mod has more weapons then JA2, JA2 UB and JA2 UC together :drool:

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Master Sergeant

Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62038]

Sat, 24 April 2004 10:04

Hedman

Messages:21
Registered:April 2003
Location: Sweden

I would be happy just to have the interacton with the NPC's explained and possibly some other things that's crucial to be able to complete the mod.
I might have missed something as my Russian is a low 0 on a scale from 1-10 :rolleyes:
I'm in on my second round now, of course I couldn't finish off the first one for obvious reasons Very Happy

but don't be scared,
it's still a very enjoyable mod, don't miss it.
Hmmm, I wonder where I can recruit an APC.......

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Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62039]

Sun, 25 April 2004 22:42

Aecho

Messages:261
Registered:August 2003
Location: The Netherlands, Europe

Neyros

Would it be possible to make a Stand-Alone weapon-mod with the weapons from the Shady Job Mod? I would really like to play the original JA2, JA2 Wildfire or Deidranna Lives with all the cool toys from your mod!

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Master Sergeant

Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62040]

Wed, 28 April 2004 14:06

markpoll

Messages:101
Registered:November 2002
Location: sydney

@Neyros.

Many of us would be mighty grateful (as it would open up the game for we non Russian speakers and probably remove the need for an english version) if you could:

1. tell us in a few sentences what we're supposed to be doing, ie the gist of the first emails;

2. give us a sentence or two about each of the NPCs, at least the ones relevant to solving the mission, eg:

G12 Rudy - recruitable NPC
G14 Iggy - arms dealer
P15 Sonya - gives you item x if you give her item y

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Sergeant

Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62041]

Wed, 28 April 2004 15:30

neyros

Messages:35
Registered:April 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. Headshot:

Would it be possible to make a Stand-Alone weapon-mod with the weapons from the Shady Job Mod?

It's possible. Need have WEDIT, MyWeaponsUB.txt from ShadyJob and a little weapon's patch EXE by Terapevt for your version JA2/JA2UB.

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Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62042]

Wed, 28 April 2004 15:49

neyros

Messages:35
Registered:April 2003

drop bear:
Email - sorry, I not good speak English.
NPC - in Mod 3 recruitable NPC: Сергей Громов (Sergey Gromov) - pilot of helicopter, Саймон Грандье (Simon) - snaper, Александра Бенедикт (Benny). His portraits you can look in Files your laptop.

Possible, translation email's and replies NPC will make in june.

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Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62043]

Wed, 28 April 2004 18:25

COBRA_rus

Messages:11
Registered:April 2004
Location: Russia, Siberia, Tomsk

Hello, friends. I'm COBRA. Wink

Thanks for your respects. Making of sound is my deep hobbie Now I trying to create two video-files for SJ. I hope it will be created with eng-translation of our MOD. And we want to beg you - help us to make english version of RPC-voices (add sound to charachters). Gromov is a russian pilot. We can sound him ourselves. It will be a really good russian accent. But Benny and Simon must speak english fine.

Sorry for my bad english. : Smile

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Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62044]

Wed, 28 April 2004 18:31

COBRA_rus

Messages:11
Registered:April 2004
Location: Russia, Siberia, Tomsk

Oops... Can I to edit my visible name? Oles Kalashnik is my first and second name, but I want to rename it to "COBRA"

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Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62045]

Wed, 28 April 2004 18:50

COBRA_rus

Messages:11
Registered:April 2004
Location: Russia, Siberia, Tomsk

Hmmm. Is it right? - "We beg you". May be, I must wright "We ask for you"?

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Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62047]

Wed, 28 April 2004 19:52

markpoll

Messages:101
Registered:November 2002
Location: sydney

Quote:

Originally posted by neyros:

Possible, translation email's and replies NPC will make in june.

Thanks for that and also for the great mod.

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Sergeant

Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62048]

Wed, 28 April 2004 19:57

markpoll

Messages:101
Registered:November 2002
Location: sydney

Quote:

Originally posted by Oles Kalashnik:
Hello, friends. I'm COBRA. Thanks for your respects. Making of sound is my deep hobbie Now I trying to create two video-files for SJ. I hope it will be created with eng-translation of our MOD. And we want to beg you - help us to make english version of RPC-voices (add sound to charachters). Gromov is a russian pilot. We can sound him ourselves. It will be a really good russian accent. But Benny and Simon must speak english fine.

Sorry for my bad english. :

You're being hard on yourself. Your English seems good. I'm happy to help. I can arrange a few friends to do voices for you, if you email scripts to me. They'd be the same as Agent X, one of the plant managers (can't remember which one), Clarice & Claudia in UC.

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Sergeant

Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62049]

Wed, 28 April 2004 20:25

Lanfear

Messages:46
Registered:April 2004
Location: The Netherlands

Quote:

Originally posted by Oles Kalashnik:
Oops... Can I to edit my visible name? Oles Kalashnik is my first and second name, but I want to rename it to "COBRA"

The board doesn't allow you to change your name, but don't worry, Kalashnik(ov) is cool enough Very Happy

You could put a reference to COBRA in your signature so people know who you are :wave:

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Corporal

Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62050]

Wed, 28 April 2004 21:29

Tyco

Messages:188
Registered:September 2001
Location: Be'er Sheva, Israel

At the risk of behing dragged out into the street, stoned and shot, SJ is a lot more enjoyable for me then UC. Personal prefferences! Theres nothing you can do against it! Free speech!!

Its just that, even on the lowest difficulty setting, UC has way too much bad guys in one sector, and the bullet train gangs have been giving me hell. If UC was designed for the elite JA2 players, then SJ is a lot more "down to earth" and well balanced, oppositoin-wise, and a lot more fun.

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Staff Sergeant

Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62051]

Wed, 28 April 2004 22:06

Wodan

Messages:538
Registered:December 2001
Location: Antwerp, Belgium

@Shady job creators:

Personally, I wouldn't translate all speech (wav files). Keeping it in Russian adds this nice, Russian touch. Smile

For me, having all the text like the speech ballons and emails translated would be more than enough.

@Tyco: Except for the unbalanced mustard gas grenades, I agree with you. Although that might be because I'm sick of UC after 2 to 3 years of it. :rolleyes:

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First Sergeant

Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62052]

Wed, 28 April 2004 23:57

COBRA_rus

Messages:11
Registered:April 2004
Location: Russia, Siberia, Tomsk

OK, thank all of you Smile

drop bear, it sounds good! Our translator called Tambovsky Volk (aka Denis Magidin) will make english version of e-mail messages and RPC's speech. After that we'll send it to you for sound creating. At now we preparing a new patch, including new sound (it is better for ears -22.050 Hz, 16 bit). That's why english version of sound must be created by good microphone. I think, you can record every voices with hich quality, than cut all normal frases (right?) and upload it to our russian FTP. I'ii try remake it finelly.

Sorry for my mystakes

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Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62053]

Thu, 29 April 2004 01:38

Aecho

Messages:261
Registered:August 2003
Location: The Netherlands, Europe

I agree with Wodan, there's no need to translate the speech from the Russian characters. They will lose their unique personality then.

Translating the E-mails, speechballoons from important charachters and maybe some items that are hard to figure out should be enough!

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Master Sergeant

Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62054]

Thu, 29 April 2004 01:50

COBRA_rus

Messages:11
Registered:April 2004
Location: Russia, Siberia, Tomsk

May be, you right. So, we can make english sound optionally, like a patch

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Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62055]

Thu, 29 April 2004 02:14

Aecho

Messages:261
Registered:August 2003
Location: The Netherlands, Europe

Quote:

Originally posted by neyros:
Quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Headshot:

Would it be possible to make a Stand-Alone weapon-mod with the weapons from the Shady Job Mod?
It's possible. Need have WEDIT, MyWeaponsUB.txt from ShadyJob and a little weapon's patch EXE by Terapevt for your version JA2/JA2UB.

Uhm...do you need that, or do i need it :confused: I run JA2 Gold and JA2 UB v1.02

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Master Sergeant

Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62056]

Thu, 29 April 2004 06:16

Rebus_Badger

Messages:3
Registered:April 2004
Location: Omerta

Ok, I;ve been away from JA2 stuff for a while, and started back with UC and WF (I have each on different computers for no particular reason). If I want to start this mod what's the best way to install UB and this without interfering in my existing UC or WF games? I can't recall if UB installs into separate directory.

I have JA2 original and JA2:UB original release, as well as JA2:WF (obviously).

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Civilian

Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62057]

Thu, 29 April 2004 07:47

Aecho

Messages:261
Registered:August 2003
Location: The Netherlands, Europe

Just install UB and run the Shady Job extractor program. Then set the campaign to Shady Job, fire up UB and voila...

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Master Sergeant

Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62058]

Thu, 29 April 2004 08:55

Lupus Tambovis

Messages:19
Registered:April 2004

hey fellaz

i'm the one responsible for the upcoming eng.ver of "Shady Job"

as my mates neyros and COBRA here already told you, we could really use some help with the eng.audio for our NPCs, since it will be particularly hard for us to make Simon sound french and Bennie sound british. and that's who they are, based on the MOD's legend. that was merely an example of the huge load of difficulties we have making the eng.audio translation.

as you could guess already, making an eng. audio for Gromov won't be a prob, since we dont hafta break our tongues while trying to imitate russian accent Wink

the text-part of the translation will be finished till the end of May. i wish i could get it done sooner, but unfortunately, i have to work for a living.

btw, all the credits for how the MOD looks are reserved to our incredibly talented friend Gennady "Unnamed" Razhivin, since he undertook the whole designing part practically by himself, including maps-radarmaps, interiors, weapon skins design, and animated NPC\RPC portraits (that are AINT taken from anime\mangas, as someone here implicited. some of the portraits refer to real people, the rest are made from scratch by Unnamed).

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Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62059]

Thu, 29 April 2004 16:51

markpoll

Messages:101
Registered:November 2002
Location: sydney

Quote:

Originally posted by Oles Kalashnik:
May be, you right. So, we can make english sound optionally, like a patch

I agree with the guys saying you should only translate the text (I like the Russian feel too and it brings back fond memories of some Russian friends I had when I lived in Germany), but I'm happy to help with English voices if that' the way you decide to go. I sprung for a microphone to help the UC guys and will get some more use out of it Wink

However, it seems you want British and French males and I can only help with:

Australian males - me and friend
Dutch female - wife (can do Australian or New Zealand, but can't imagine you'd need that)
American female - friend's girlfriend

Let me know markpoll@ozemail.com.au

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Sergeant

Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62060]

Thu, 29 April 2004 16:53

markpoll

Messages:101
Registered:November 2002
Location: sydney

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. Headshot:

Uhm...do you need that, or do i need it :confused: I run JA2 Gold and JA2 UB v1.02

I think he's telling you politely that it's an enormous job he won't be doing and thanking you for volunteering to do it.

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Sergeant

Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62061]

Thu, 29 April 2004 17:31

Aecho

Messages:261
Registered:August 2003
Location: The Netherlands, Europe

@Drop bear

Really? :whoknows: And that's the reason i totally respect anybody who brings people like me a new campaign/mod/patch/whatever else :bow:

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Master Sergeant

Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62062]

Thu, 29 April 2004 17:55

Hedman

Messages:21
Registered:April 2003
Location: Sweden

Quote from Headshot Quote:

agree with Wodan, there's no need to translate the speech from the Russian characters. They will lose their unique personality then.

Translating the E-mails, speechballoons from important charachters and maybe some items that are hard to figure out should be enough!

Lupus, If you will pursue the translation most if not all the french comments could be the original sound for Gaston.
I really miss his accent and would love to hear (preferably him) using it again.
Actually I agree with some previous posts that taking away the russian sound would also remove a lot of the flavor/feeling.
Translated texts in a word document, "Hint sheet", will be sufficient and then some help to interact with the NPC's.
I could do very well with a document with the translations.
We would have to "match" :animread: the russian text but that's no biggie, considering that it would save you guys a lot of hard work tampering with the game files.
I would like to, once again, express my ovations for the mod, it's really great!

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Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62063]

Thu, 29 April 2004 20:30

neyros

Messages:35
Registered:April 2003

Mr. Headshot:
I'm have weapons patch by Terapevt for next versions EXE: JA2 1.02 rus, JA2UB 1.01 rus, JA2UB 1.02 rus.
Run you JA2 Gold v. 1.12 eng ?

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Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62064]

Thu, 29 April 2004 21:42

Aecho

Messages:261
Registered:August 2003
Location: The Netherlands, Europe

Neyros

I have JA2 Gold v1.10 but i downloaded the patch to v1.12 from the Strategy First Website. It's v1.12 now, is that okay?

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Master Sergeant

Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62065]

Fri, 30 April 2004 00:27

neyros

Messages:35
Registered:April 2003

Mr. Headshot:
It's okay. But programming you on Assembler? Can you decoding EXE?

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Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62066]

Fri, 30 April 2004 00:39

Aecho

Messages:261
Registered:August 2003
Location: The Netherlands, Europe

Neyros, how do you mean decoding?

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Master Sergeant

Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62067]

Fri, 30 April 2004 02:06

ramfall

Messages:405
Registered:January 2001
Location: JAmodsquad, Helsingborg, ...

@neyros,
do you know a location where I can download Russian.slf from? I can't start the game since I'm missing some of the tileset .sti's. Btw, the game looks great from what I've seen so far! Great job, guys! You're all very talented!
:ramfall:

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Master Sergeant

Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62068]

Fri, 30 April 2004 06:10

roman_vm

Messages:6
Registered:April 2004
Location: Kiev, Ukraine

Hi, fellas Smile

I do realise how difficult to play a game without knowing a word in Russian so I'd like to give some advice for those who can't find recruitable NPC.
Simon the sniper can be found in the sector G12. He stands in a building at the north of the sector and has no name over him until you talk to him or to an old man at the centre of the sector.
Benny is hiding in an abandoned mine in the sector I13. But it isn't easy thing to find her. Talk to a guy and a girl near a building. Be patient and talk to them time and again until the girl demands some buks for the information. Then she'll show you into the mine and only then Benny will appear. You'll need to do some swimming Smile

I've made a kinda a patch for Shady Job that fixes some minor bugs including the annoying bug with SVD magazines. It contains Wedit which can work with SJ and an updated MyWeapons table. The patch can be downloaded from here: http://www.chat.ru/~romanvm/762patch4.rar
Just unpack the archive into the game folder and run patch.bat. The archive can be unpacked with WinRar v. 3.0 or above. Sorry, but readme for the patch is in Russian.

2 ramfall.
SJ doesn't require any additional files to be installed on the English UB. Maybe you should re-install your UB and then install SJ again.

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Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62069]

Fri, 30 April 2004 06:59

Aecho

Messages:261
Registered:August 2003
Location: The Netherlands, Europe

Excellent work Roman V M :ok:

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Master Sergeant

Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62070]

Fri, 30 April 2004 07:01

COBRA_rus

Messages:11
Registered:April 2004
Location: Russia, Siberia, Tomsk

O my God... What's a cool slang, my russian friends, - you are really ghetto-guys! ;D
I shall not be surprised, if I will know, that you heat your hands above garbage tanks in the evenings. He-he! Wink

So... drop bear, I think, you can record all of your friend's voices. It will be a little samples. We'll choose a best and begin this great work Smile

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Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62071]

Fri, 30 April 2004 07:36

roman_vm

Messages:6
Registered:April 2004
Location: Kiev, Ukraine

My little patch fixes following problems:
1. The bug with SVD magazines.
2. Problems with some weapons sounds (AUG-HBAR & Neostead).
3. The bug with a gas mask. You can now put it on alone.
4. You can now attach ceramic plates to upgraded armour vests. Unfortunately I had to remove the upgradability of 1-st class vests because of the limited number of positions in the MyWeapons table.
5. The burst size of G11 has ben reduced to 3 shots.

B.t.w the ugradability of helmets and leggins is a bug Smile

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Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62072]

Fri, 30 April 2004 07:37

Lanfear

Messages:46
Registered:April 2004
Location: The Netherlands

Quote:

Originally posted by Lupus Tambovis:
hey fellaz

i'm the one responsible for the upcoming eng.ver of "Shady Job"

as my mates neyros and COBRA here already told you, we could really use some help with the eng.audio for our NPCs, since it will be particularly hard for us to make Simon sound french and Bennie sound british. and that's who they are, based on the MOD's legend. that was merely an example of the huge load of difficulties we have making the eng.audio translation.

Dutch male here, who speaks french and english as well.

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Corporal

Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62073]

Fri, 30 April 2004 07:51

COBRA_rus

Messages:11
Registered:April 2004
Location: Russia, Siberia, Tomsk

Lanfear
That's good! We must listen his voice. Can you make a sample? For example - "My name is Simon. And I'm your death, understood?" This sample you can send to my e-male bloodyson@rbcmai.ru. A MP3-format is good for it.

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Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62074]

Fri, 30 April 2004 07:53

COBRA_rus

Messages:11
Registered:April 2004
Location: Russia, Siberia, Tomsk

P.S. This speech must be created with a french accent, you know.

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Re: Ja2UB:Shady Job mod is released.[message #62075]

Fri, 30 April 2004 08:59

jEbUs

Messages:36
Registered:November 2003
Location: Brugge, Belgium

Quote:

Originally posted by Oles Kalashnik:
P.S. This speech must be created with a french accent, you know.

Since he's Dutch, that would probably be a damn hard thing to do.

Dutchies generally can't speak French without their darn Dutch accent, so trying to speak English with a French accent would probably be near impossible.

It probably would be hilarious, tho'...
Be sure to send a copy my way too, Lanfear! :biglaugh:

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