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Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76656]

Sun, 22 September 2002 10:19

Head_Hunter

Messages:23
Registered:July 2002
Location: Germany

I got there a problem with Sarge. I got 66 Leadership but i can

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76657]

Sun, 22 September 2002 10:37

Linx

Messages:188
Registered:March 2001
Location: The Netherlands

I tried hiring the troopers with my IMP (35ldr) and they agreed, but any other merc couldn't convince them, even if they have a higher leadership. It's some weird bug in UB I guess...

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76658]

Sun, 22 September 2002 11:40

Fuzzi Q. Jones

Messages:18
Registered:December 2000
Location: Oldenburg, Germany

I used Fox to recruit everyone at Tay Ninh Base, no problems at all. (cool characters btw, especially Spooky, but also a nice idea with the 'Tour Of Duty' team)

The problems with the Sarge's mouth appear only until you recruit him, it doesn't affect his picture in the later game.

There are big problems with ammunition and German UB, at least on my system, but there are also some reports at the JA-Basis-Forum.
Most magazines and ammoclips simply don't fit into the weapons for which they are designed for.

I tried to fix it with wedit, but I had no luck. Afaik wedit doesn't work with German UB.exe at all. Has anybody any solution or a work-around?
Any info or help appreciated!
Thanks in advance!

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76659]

Mon, 23 September 2002 01:52

Head_Hunter

Messages:23
Registered:July 2002
Location: Germany

Great now i can hire him but the game crash when he spoke his last sentence.

The message:

Error missing file for char. #67, quote 25

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76660]

Tue, 24 September 2002 02:26

DR J

Messages:37
Registered:April 2002
Location: Amarillo, TX

@Head Hunter
Same thing happens when you try to give cash to Hannigan. Game crash, message of missing file response.
@Jones I had a couple of ammunition problems. An M60 not taking 7.62 Nato. Wrong symbols on weapons like Mustard gas graphic on grenade.

I ended up deleting everything and reinstalling everything. Cleared up problem. Kinda drastic. Now Ive been on the journey to TayNinh 4 times. Getting kind of old.

My other problems
1. The cannons at the fire bases came up orange instead of green like in the editor. Any suggestions on how to fix this?
2. Dr. Vince is at Tay Ninh base in the editor but not in the game. What is happening there?

Other than this so far so good. Having a good time hunting chuck.

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76661]

Tue, 24 September 2002 03:46

Tampa_Gamer

Messages:21
Registered:April 2001

[RE-POST OF MESSAGE IN MAIN VIETNAM THREAD]

Fantastic Mod so far, I just reached sector I-10 (barely). Just to clarify, the two wierd messages that I have gotten so far are as follows:

(1) When first starting the campaign (i.e. before you hit the ground) check the message log (you have to scroll up). You will see where the game adds all of the custom sectors (e.g. "Added custom sector xx"). The problem that I noted was one of the lines read "Unable to load Sector N-9, Map Population Total must be less than 32". Now so far the mod has run real smooth. But if I pass my cursor over sector N-9, it does not show as one of the sectors you can enter. I guess my question for Becoming X is, whether or not this is supposed to happen, is N-9 a valid sector that was customized?

(2) Also got the message "Sam Site in I-8: Jungle" taken over" right after I cleared I-9.

Anybody else see these messages?

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76662]

Tue, 24 September 2002 04:23

Fuzzi Q. Jones

Messages:18
Registered:December 2000
Location: Oldenburg, Germany

@ Tampa_Gamer
2) Afaik this message is a relic from original JA2. Sector I-8 was the SAM-site south of Cambria in JA2. There a quite a few other relics of that kind in UB.

@ DR J
Thanks, but I tried quite a few things including several re-installations of the game. With no success. Sad

I think the problem is really the German UB.exe which doesn't work with wedit.

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76663]

Wed, 25 September 2002 07:32

Tampa_Gamer

Messages:21
Registered:April 2001

Well, unfortunately I had tried every conceivable combination of both my original and gold versions of JA2:UB (patched/non-patched), etc. and in every case I getting the error when it trys to add sector N-9. It is complaining about population >32. Is there some sort of mod that allows greater than 32 population that everyone installed on their computer except me?

I opened the map with the editor and did see that on difficult level the number of admins was 20 & troops was 13. Since that totals to 33 would that cause the problem?

[FOLLOW-UP] OK, I figured it out. I was playing on "expert" mode. I re-read the directions and discovered that we are supposed to play on "experienced" mode. That is why nobody else was probably getting this error. I went and started a new campaign on experienced mode and encountered no problems adding that sector. So the problem does lie with the # of population for that map set at "33" on expert level.

Now 2 questions:

(1) What are the mechanical differences between the 2 levels and why did he choose "experienced" instead of "expert" level

(2) Is there any way I can convert my existing saved game to "experienced" so that I do not have to start over?

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76664]

Thu, 26 September 2002 07:18

LokiOne

Messages:52
Registered:February 2001
Location: Issaquah, WA 98029 USA

So where is "the Rifle"? I easily recruited Spooky, Sarge and Ruiz (created my IMP character with a leadership of 70) but haven't runs across the fourth guy yet. Haven't left the base yet (I'm busy comparing weapons and their ranges, damage, weights and ammo availability (yes, I am a bit anal) before heading out into the field) and I recruited our favorite cowboy (almost forgot what it was he needs to see if he is going to join your posse) but when Betty (again Smile

) says that she has more gear if you'll clean out her storeroom of cats (like in the original JA2UL game) is there truely a storeroom in SOG '69 to clear out? Otherwise her supplies for sale (other then that one vital item) are a bit sparse. Appreciate any help you can provide. Great game so far (if you can survive the first few fights with such short-ranged weapons and limited ammo). It does bring back some interesting memories!

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76665]

Thu, 26 September 2002 07:29

quasimodo

Messages:54
Registered:November 2000
Location: eugene, oregon U.S.A.

Loki I recruited Sarge, Ruiz, Spooky and Tex with an IMP of leadership 35. I found the other guy in front of the door to one of the buildings in the same sector as Spooky and Sarge. I wasn't able to recruit him, but I had a full team already. As far as I can tell Betty's "big cat problem" is just a piece of leftover dialog, and her stuff is pretty much junk.

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76666]

Thu, 26 September 2002 08:02

DR J

Messages:37
Registered:April 2002
Location: Amarillo, TX

Yeah Betty as usual doesnt sell what you need, doesnt buy what you got. Love to just whack her.

BTW, did anyone ever see Dr. Vince at I11.
Taylor is in front of the building to NE from Sarge. Taylor was easy. Sarge required a high leadership guy to recruit, and Ruiz, like it says just hit recruit. He doesnt like to talk at all.
Who was Spooky taken from. He hates Shadow.

After reloading the game three times I got the cannons to green instead of orange. Where are the jeeps? Smile

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76667]

Thu, 26 September 2002 15:56

Bearpit

Messages:1068
Registered:August 2001
Location: Sydney Australia.

Betty & Cat Quest.
We had the same problem in BP2.
The Cat quest is only completed if Bloodcats from UB map position ... I think I10 are killed.

So you could add some Bloodcats to map I10 through UB editor and when they are killed Betty will sell extended range of goods. You would have to add the cats before visiting the sector first time. Dont know if it works if you have already visited.

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76668]

Thu, 26 September 2002 21:15

Dr.Quack

Messages:124
Registered:November 2001
Location: old Europe

Quote:

Originally posted by Tampa_Gamer:

I opened the map with the editor and did see that on difficult level the number of admins was 20 & troops was 13. Since that totals to 33 would that cause the problem?

Well, none of the gametesters went through the added pain of playing on hard.. It's an oversight, but as a preliminary fix you could just change the one number in the editor and all will be fine. I'm sure there will be a fix for this (and other things..)

Experienced mode has been advised, and I would add that experienced/ironman is a really groovy combination in V69, very exciting and fast to play.

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76669]

Fri, 27 September 2002 02:08

quasimodo

Messages:54
Registered:November 2000
Location: eugene, oregon U.S.A.

DR J, I find it interesting that for you Sarge was hard and Taylor was easy. For my Learship 35 guy Sarge was easy and Taylor was impossible. I wonder how the game does the recruitment.

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76670]

Fri, 27 September 2002 03:52

LokiOne

Messages:52
Registered:February 2001
Location: Issaquah, WA 98029 USA

Thanks

Found "the Rifle" just where you said he would be. I had forgotten that the militia types are visible where ever you look but you have to physically move around until these characters are spotted. With my 70 in leadership I was easily able to recruit him as well. Got all four, now just have to weed out the weapons, repair the gear and select the items I need to go out and start hunting Charlie.

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76671]

Fri, 27 September 2002 05:25

DR J

Messages:37
Registered:April 2002
Location: Amarillo, TX

Quasi,
Yeah and if use Taylor leadership 37 instead of my imp at 35 he recruits a lot more easily!!!
Makes me wonder if recruitment takes in to account other things too.

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76672]

Fri, 27 September 2002 07:51

Sgt York

Messages:79
Registered:June 2000
Location: San Antonio TX

What a wonderful game !!!! 'Nam is just like I remember it (sort of). Attaboy Becoming X :ok: :cheers:

I stumbled on Fire Base George with beat up weapons, bloodied and bandaged mercs, and in daylight too. Fortunately, I always enter a hostile sector at a corner so I can escape if necessary, and unfortunately, that

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76673]

Fri, 27 September 2002 10:51

T.I.M.

Messages:19
Registered:February 2002

First few times I went to FB George I just killed one or two guys then retreated. About the third time I went, during the game day-time, I somehow managed to walk through the entire base until I saw the guy standing next to the switch. I promptly killed him and everyone else. Your right about taking it back to the Col. I'm holding onto my weapons req. and testing each base commander and see what they give me.
Other Questions...
-I assume there is nothing to be done with Dai, M15, He told me to die, but didn't become an enemy. I killed him anyway but was just wondering.
-Whos this 'the rifle' character you guys are on about? Is this Taylor?

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76674]

Sat, 28 September 2002 01:47

Gunny Steve

Messages:8
Registered:November 2001
Location: Germany

Quote:

Originally posted by Bearpit:
Betty & Cat Quest.
We had the same problem in BP2.
The Cat quest is only completed if Bloodcats from UB map position ... I think I10 are killed.

Hi BearPit,

for the german version of Sierra Gordo we edited Betty's NPC-File and deleted the Bloodcat Quest along wiht the Tex Quest.
Both worked fine.
If you want,i can send you the altered NPC-File.

Gunny Steve

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76675]

Sat, 28 September 2002 11:54

Brio

Messages:9
Registered:July 2000
Location: Ontario, Canada

I have encountered a problem so far while playing this great mod.

*******May have minor spoilers********

I went to the mission and got the medicine from the VC tunnels. I then brought it back to Trang and he gave me the An Loc info pack. The info pack tells me to put the password into the An Loc dossier 2 but when I go to the briefings section in the readme all I see is dossier1.zip. When I open this I see only dossier1.htm and when I try and open this it asks for a password and it says that the password from the An Loc info pack is not correct. This leads me to believe that I am missing part of the readme. If this is the case can someone either post the full readme on the forum or email me at vanclan@kent.net.

Thanks in advance.

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Private

Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76676]

Sat, 28 September 2002 21:48

Messages:33
Registered:August 2002
Location: Czech Rep

I had the same problem, Windows commander always said my password`s wrong. But with ordinary explorer, right-click on the dossier and choose extract files. Should work well with old Read-me, don`t know if it does with the new version.

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76677]

Tue, 01 October 2002 00:25

jan175

Messages:111
Registered:October 2001
Location: S'pore (formerly Hobart, ...

Quote:

Originally posted by Sgt York:
What a wonderful game !!!! 'Nam is just like I remember it (sort of). Attaboy Becoming X :ok: :cheers:

I stumbled on Fire Base George with beat up weapons, bloodied and bandaged mercs, and in daylight too. Fortunately, I always enter a hostile sector at a corner so I can escape if necessary, and unfortunately, that
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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76678]

Tue, 01 October 2002 00:40

Sgt York

Messages:79
Registered:June 2000
Location: San Antonio TX

Blade - catch the chopper at Fire Base Judy in L12. Be careful going in !!!!!

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76679]

Tue, 01 October 2002 02:28

Bearpit

Messages:1068
Registered:August 2001
Location: Sydney Australia.

Question about 3 maps & Readme link.
D9, G11, I3 are not in the gameworld but are in unlocked zips inside the Vietnam SOG69 folder.
Each file inside zip shows about 360K meaning a map but when extracted to game folder show O bytes & crash editor so something is wrong.
G11 is probably a teleport to upper zones of gameworld but how do you get it operating in the folder??

Also in the readme An Loc shows a link ... "Supplemental" which has no link. Dead end. So what's supposed to be there??

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76680]

Tue, 01 October 2002 03:08

Sgt York

Messages:79
Registered:June 2000
Location: San Antonio TX

******** S P O I L L E R ************

Bearpit: The chopper to An Loc base is in G11. Look for an NVA map to get the password. D9 might get you to Cambodia. I3 might help you end the game. The supplemental goes with the An Loc Welcome Wagon info packet you can get from Trang (dossier1).

Check out the MyweaponsUB.txt file.

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Corporal

Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76681]

Tue, 01 October 2002 05:34

chulin1

Messages:1
Registered:September 2002
Location: taiwan

I was taken over all the iron triangle region,
but i can't find anything about the password!!
please tell me how to find it? thank's a lot!!

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76682]

Tue, 01 October 2002 05:52

Eisenhower

Messages:99
Registered:January 2002
Location: Aruba

there are a few spoilers in the [url=http://home.zonnet.nl\robjansen\Read%20Me.zip]Read me[/url] heres one to:\if you want to hit the "back" button it gives you an error because it isn't good linked ,i would liked to make a better version of it, but unfortanely my laptop with the internet connection is broke, i would not get it back in less than a week,

Eisenhower

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76683]

Thu, 03 October 2002 03:28

lurker

Messages:7
Registered:October 2002

Still unable to open the 'dossier' file. I have tried all manners of extracting it, and still get the same "password incorrect" warning. Any other ideas? For those that have opened it how did you do it EXACTLY.

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76684]

Thu, 03 October 2002 05:28

Sgt York

Messages:79
Registered:June 2000
Location: San Antonio TX

Lurker- you need winzip. Go to the folder where you have the briefings. Double click on the file dossier1.zip. Click on the extract button. Select the proper folder to extract to (i.e., the briefings folder). Click on the extract button. Enter the password. Go back to the briefing file to read the An Loc info, which will now be dossier1.html.

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76685]

Thu, 03 October 2002 11:58

lurker

Messages:7
Registered:October 2002

I started a new game and now the dossier file is gone from the UB folder. But I did do all those things, and I still got the error message. Nor did the map load, I started the game and still could not get to G11.

If I don't get it the next time I get the disk in this game I will be back. Maybe by then there might be an answer.

""This may be a spoiler""
One other bug I saw was in FB George. When I got an arrow cursor (teleport signal) in the middle of the sector it took my IMP character to secrot A11 (POW CAMP) However was not able to see him once I got there. I tried taking a full group and the game crashed. So I am not sure if this a legal path or not, but if it is, I can't get there either. If it isn't then no worries.

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76686]

Fri, 04 October 2002 00:41

dwdviking

Messages:24
Registered:October 2002
Location: paris

hi,there , ive a few questions:
first, who is the dr vince your talkin about, is he in the same map as sarge?
the "rifle" is it taylor???
there is a passage in tah nin village to get undergroud but it says "runtime error" is it because i need a pass for a map?
thanks

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76687]

Fri, 04 October 2002 02:29

Bearpit

Messages:1068
Registered:August 2001
Location: Sydney Australia.

Sgt York >
Thanks. Found the VC map with password so after using on zip G11 is available.
To those of you having problems.
1. Go to your Vietnam campaign folder.
2. Select G11 zip file then use an Aladdin or Winzip or whatever utility you have to open the zip which self extracts. Each utility has a password input section.
3. Exit game then restart. G11 will be available after that.

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76688]

Fri, 04 October 2002 07:32

dwdviking

Messages:24
Registered:October 2002
Location: paris

they are two acces to the underground one in p7 ben suc and one in n11 tinh village, both acces are giving me the message "runtime error" is it because i need to extract the zipped maps or is it really an error?

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76689]

Fri, 04 October 2002 08:05

Juju

Messages:19
Registered:July 2001
Location: Netherlands

Quote:

Originally posted by Bearpit:
Thanks. Found the VC map with password.

Bearpit, I've been looking everywhere but cannot seem to find the darn map. I'm gonna continue searching, but could you, or anyone else, give me a little nudge in the right direction?

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76690]

Fri, 04 October 2002 08:59

LordDario

Messages:96
Registered:June 2001
Location: Washington, DC

I am starting to feel like an idiot. I cant find the "map" with the password to get to G11 and continue onto get the medicine for Trang (right?). I finally, after clearing out the ruins, visited the sector with the rpcs, so I went through the first area with 3 mercs :/ Wasnt easy .. X, thx for a great mod!

If anyone could post a hint where I can find the password to get to G11, or let me know I am totally off base Smile

Also, I havent seen any sign of betty or Tex/Kulba .... am I missing something?

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76691]

Fri, 04 October 2002 09:05

Juju

Messages:19
Registered:July 2001
Location: Netherlands

Quote:

Originally posted by LordDario:
I am starting to feel like an idiot.

Me 'n' you both, bro. Wink

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76692]

Fri, 04 October 2002 12:34

Bearpit

Messages:1068
Registered:August 2001
Location: Sydney Australia.

....Spoiler....
NVA map is very close to LZ Rosie in J16.

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76693]

Fri, 04 October 2002 12:38

Dusel

Messages:3
Registered:May 2002
Location: Switzerland

Quote:

Originally posted by viking:
they are two acces to the underground one in p7 ben suc and one in n11 tinh village, both acces are giving me the message "runtime error" is it because i need to extract the zipped maps or is it really an error?

had the same problem... hm but i solved it...

i forgot to update UB to 1.01

after that it solved the problem
but i can now start from the beginning
Sad

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76694]

Fri, 04 October 2002 12:59

LordDario

Messages:96
Registered:June 2001
Location: Washington, DC

J16? hrm, ok I must be an idiot.

I can access sectors H 7-11, and 13, and I 8-13, G 13 and F 13.

These are the only sectors I can access. I cant find a teleporter anywhere. Ive talked to Innis, the guy with the scar and The mayor of Tay Nnh. I got the mayors quest, gave the scar guy the Buddha, and Innis wont really talk to me bc I (dont have the orders yet). I havent found Betty or Tex/Kulba. Ive recruited Taylor, Spooky, Ruiz and Sarge.

So .. what am I missing? Btw, I updated to 1.1 UB "after" I started the game, when I realized I hadent done it yet.

Thanks for all your help!

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Re: Problems and mistakes in VietnamSOG69[message #76695]

Fri, 04 October 2002 15:05

abradley

Messages:225
Registered:December 2001

Quote:

Originally posted by LordDario:
I havent found Betty or Tex/Kulba. Thanks for all your help!

Betty and Tex are (if you imported there's no Kulba and Tex isn't available) in Tay Ninh City, and I found that Betty wasn't around during the day after the first couple of days, only at nite.

Addon
If you updated after the 'Sog 69' install that may be causing some problems. 'X' might know.

@ 'X'

Great Mod!
Many thanks!

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