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New Chaos Player Impressions[message #94070] Mon, 28 February 2005 08:59 Go to next message
wizardmode is currently offline wizardmode

 
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Registered:February 2005
Location: Central NJ
Hello, I am the new guy here, but old time JA player and fan. I've finished JA, JA Deadly Games, JA2 and JAUB. Then I stumbled on some new links and followd the MODSQUAD to a new quest. I was so thrilled to find this new JA to play, downloaded the files, got in installed and off I went. Sort of. Started out ok, then I made the mistake (I think) of killing the cops to get theyre stuff in Atremo. That was fine until they started hammering me back at the Calisto airport. If they are going to battle me for the rest of the game for what I did in Atremo, I will want to restart. IS THIS AVOIDABLE????. What a fight that was. But there is more. After winning that one, I went back to Atremo to check out a 2nd counter attack there. That was fine, but after returning to Calisto, I had aanother HUGE fight to take on COUNTLESS more cops again. Then afer winning that, I had to fight off an attempted retake by the army. Is this sector that impt????. Is this a sign of thing to come...........????? WOW.
I did not mention the hellacious fight clearing the Calisto subway. Don't get me wrong........I love it, but holy smokes this is really something now. ANYWAY, I am hooked in now for the long haul. Greeting all and hats off and thanks to the MOD SQUAD for this amazing effort.

Jerry F

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Re: New Chaos Player Impressions[message #94071] Mon, 28 February 2005 10:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bearpit is currently offline Bearpit

 
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Registered:August 2001
Location: Sydney Australia.
There are technical issues causing respawning enemies in some city sectors .... it's very annoying.

You cant avoid the police becoming enemies for long .... if you dont steal their stuff or shoot at them in Atremo their hostility is only delayed a while .... that's all.

Visit UC Downloads section & install the various patches ... Quick Fix2, Patched maps .... will save you a lot of problems in the long run but you must restart the game.

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Re: New Chaos Player Impressions[message #94072] Mon, 28 February 2005 10:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hayashi is currently offline Hayashi

 
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Welcome to the 'Pit!
Personally, I find UC a lot more challenging (and fun!) than normal JA2.

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Re: New Chaos Player Impressions[message #94073] Mon, 28 February 2005 13:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wizardmode is currently offline wizardmode

 
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Registered:February 2005
Location: Central NJ
thanks for the quick help. I installed the quick fix and patched maps from the begining, so the re-spawning is something that will have to be lived with as part of the game. After enduring 2 MAJOR battles for the same turf eating up so much ammo, with a 3rd again now being faced, I will have to come back to Calisto Airport B14 sometime later. Hopefully I won't have to for awhile.

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Re: New Chaos Player Impressions[message #94074] Tue, 01 March 2005 10:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
abradley is currently offline abradley

 
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Registered:December 2001
Quote:
Originally posted by JBF:
thanks for the quick help. I installed the quick fix and patched maps from the begining, so the re-spawning is something that will have to be lived with as part of the game. After enduring 2 MAJOR battles for the same turf eating up so much ammo, with a 3rd again now being faced, I will have to come back to Calisto Airport B14 sometime later. Hopefully I won't have to for awhile.
B14? Isn't that the Gunrunners sector next to the airport?

If that's the sector your referring to you can ignore it once you cleared the Army and GunRunners the first time. You can travel throught it as long as you don't go to the tactical map.

The sectors that count are B13, C13, and D13 where you build militia and collect money! C13 has a glitch that once it's taken there's a single enemy respawned, one time only, shortly after it's taken. He's easy prey.

You'll find this happening in several sectors including E13.

I believe 'all' gunrunner sectors respawn gunrunners, you can use them for training!

Best

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Re: New Chaos Player Impressions[message #94075] Tue, 01 March 2005 23:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wizardmode is currently offline wizardmode

 
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Registered:February 2005
Location: Central NJ
Most helpful. Thanks.

After clearing all enimies in sector B14
3 times in a row , I guess I have trained enough. Time to move on. Ha.

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Re: New Chaos Player Impressions[message #94076] Mon, 07 March 2005 08:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Olim is currently offline Olim

 
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Registered:July 2004
Location: USA
I just got it las night, and when Atremo was attacked by the redshirts, I ran around collecting all the stuff from the dead bodies. Combined with the package, I actually was reasonably well armed for the subway station (1 scorpion, several makarovs, only rosebud didn't have a gun). However, I don't really understand who the redshirts are working for. Are they the Crepaton forces sent by Brenda? And why do the cops in Atremo attack them if they are? If Atremo is under rebel control (as it seems to be) why are the cops working for them?
Couldn't you have found a woman do do Brenda's voice instead of the computer?

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Re: New Chaos Player Impressions[message #94077] Mon, 07 March 2005 11:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hayashi is currently offline Hayashi

 
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Red shirts etc are Queen Brenda's army. Crepaton have their own militia (gunrunners in JA2DL, if you've played it). And the police are supposedly corrupt & in cahoots with the queen. Why they attack the redshirts in the airport sector, I don't know. Maybe they are not police but rebel guards? Police are clad in blue tops and pants.

There was not enough volunteers to do the voiceovers, so they resaorted to using speech synthesizers, iirc.

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Re: New Chaos Player Impressions[message #94078] Tue, 08 March 2005 07:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Olim is currently offline Olim

 
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sorry, I get it now. I was just not clear on the nature of the rebellion and thought the green militia in the airport were police, but later encountered the blue police and understood things. BTW, I love stealing stuff from the police and the biker gang's ppsh41 by using door-closing or smoke grenades (for the supressor and the ppsh). If I had as many smoke grenades in this as you get in normal ja2 I could rob all the shops too.

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Re: New Chaos Player Impressions[message #94079] Wed, 09 March 2005 11:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Olim is currently offline Olim

 
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Registered:July 2004
Location: USA
YOU RUINED RAZOR! DAMN YOU!! I just got the merc email, hired him, and when I found out you had removed his knifing epertise (which I always modified to stealthy+knifing, as you can rarely knife without sneaking up on them first, or I just made him improve his agility alot) I reloaded. I know I can fix his skills and stats, but it says "Razor only works well with sniper rifles" so I suspect you edited one of those hidden attributes that makes mercs partial to certain types of weapons. HOW DO I FIX HIM? His persona and comments are completely unsuited to sniping.
"Bet he don't even know how ta' skin a baby!"
his endgame quote is the best of anyone's. Something about going to a neighboring country and starting something up. A foreshadowing for UB!

EDIT: oh yeah, and knives are too weak. I snuck up right behind a redshirt with my IMP (stealthy, knifing) and, using a knife, stabbed him twice, the first "wounding" him and the next taking him to critical. My IMP has a dex of 65 or something and strength of 60-70, can't remember exactly. I can ASSURE you, that if I, personally, snuck up behind somebody lying on their belly, I could kill them with a boxcutter, let alone a real fighting knife, in one or two stabs, and the only h2h training I have is rudimentary judo and HS wrestling. If they were standing, and I had snuck up behind them, I would have no trouble slitting their throat and killing them, which my IMP also failed to do once (hit the neck but did not kill). I suspect that the insta-kill afforded throwing knives and normal knives (I think) if you hit them without them seeing/hearing you in JA2 1.x was either disabled in UC somehow or is bugged.
My IMP was wounded a bit, though bandaged, so that may have done it.

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Re: New Chaos Player Impressions[message #94080] Wed, 09 March 2005 17:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Phantom is currently offline Phantom

 
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Razor "only works well with sniper rifles" because they aren't capable of burst-fire ...

Just change him with ProEdit & AIMbio, and he'll be back to his slash-happy self!

As for the knives, I too found them underpowered. Mod them with WeaponEdit.
I can't remember ever making a one-slice kill with a blade in UC, come to think of it. And I have been trying to produce one with a boxcutter whenever the opportunity arises. ?Maybe instakills are dependent on weapon damage as well as skill & surprise.
Wudu may know more.

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Re: New Chaos Player Impressions[message #94081] Wed, 09 March 2005 20:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The NumbNuts is currently offline The NumbNuts

 
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Razor works as my sniper and postie does all the knive work.

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Re: New Chaos Player Impressions[message #94082] Thu, 10 March 2005 08:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Olim is currently offline Olim

 
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Location: USA
I think I will copy his stuff from ja2 "gold" (in quotes because I use dvornik's WONDERFUL 1.03-1.112 patch, among others). The knives will get a damage update, as will the machetes, and I think I will give the boxcutter what the knives have now, because it would be hard to kill someone in one slash with a boxcutter, even from behind.
I love crowbar+grizzly though, 1 whack k/o.

The reason I want to fix razor is that my reasons for hiring a merc have cost effectiveness and Humor (funny lines, style, etc) tied for no. 1. So, razor, grizzly, and fidel are among my favorites while I stay away from cookiecutter mercs or gay ones like reaper. I hate reaper.

"Get shovel!" <--- best line in the game, next to Razor's endgame and some of Maddog's stuff. Actually, there are alot of mercs I've NEVER used, so I dunno.

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Re: New Chaos Player Impressions[message #94083] Mon, 14 March 2005 04:36 Go to previous message
DaCheetah is currently offline DaCheetah

 
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I've found that knives kind of lose their practicality pretty early in the game. Although even in Rudesa the enemy is equipped with pistols and smg's still, the effectiveness of pistols now completely negates my motivation to stab.

Oh, and while your picking cheap mercs that can slash, take a look at MD. Not exactly hilarious, but he always comes through in a clutch for me.

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