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Mod Question[message #94089]
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Mon, 14 March 2005 01:41
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DaCheetah |
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Registered:March 2004 Location: New Mexico... Cleaner Tha... |
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Is there a mod that makes enemies drop their full kits? I've always wanted to find a mod that would make Jagged Alliance more realistic. Also, it always annoys the crap out of me when you know the enemy your shooting at has a great gun, but you kill him... and guess what? He didn't drop it. So, does anyone know of one that will work with UC, or with JA at all?
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Corporal
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Re: Mod Question[message #94096]
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Fri, 25 March 2005 14:15
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Headshot |
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Registered:May 2002 Location: Los Angeles ( Hollywood )... |
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DaCheetah
You can look at it the same way from the enemy point of view. Why shouldnt they be equiped right from the start with the best armor and weapons. At that point you would still be out gunned and out numbered.
Or think of tring to fly into the USA, England, or any number of other countries while carring weapons. I am sorry but you most likely would never make it onto the airplane. So entering a foriegn country without weapons, and aquiring them within that country is the most practical way of getting in un-noticed. Just think of yourself as having to get to your meeting point where your contact would supply you with the weapons he had available. If you took the contract you would do the best you could with what was available, or you may never get another contract.
Almost everyone on these forums have dealt with the same thing you are going through and I have not found anyone yet, that couldnt complete thier mission with what they started with.
Read my Ironman game if you have a problem getting started. I started with ONLY my IMP, using LOCALs ONLY, NO saves during combat, and no reloads, Expert, tons of guns, Reality, settings.
The game would be way too easy if you didnt have proper game balance, and started with fully equipped mercs, coupled with enemies dropping everything they carried.
Just my opinion...
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Staff Sergeant
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Re: Mod Question[message #94098]
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Sun, 27 March 2005 12:34
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the scorpion |
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Registered:September 2004 Location: CH |
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As a mercenary, you would most likely be able to find a way around customs, or would be issued with equipment in the country you work. But you would certainly never go into a civil war contry with a 9mm, 2 clips and quarter of a liter of water!
the opposite Idea is also present. an elite mod, where only decent weaponry is used, pistols and stuff maybe sidearms. But i don`t think anybody would ever make such a mod, as there are so many fans of low-tech tactics such as hand-to hand combat.
maybe for UB, and Mission-based... haven`t had enough time to think it through but the concept is around...
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Sergeant Major
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Re: Mod Question[message #94099]
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Sun, 27 March 2005 21:38
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DaethWalker |
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Registered:September 2003 Location: Rocky Point, NC |
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Think of it this way ... you just emptied a full clip into a guy ... maybe you destroyed or at least disabled his weapon and armor. Who's going to use a Dragunov with a bent barrel or destroyed stock?
Or, you took a guy out with one shot from the rooftop ... problem is, when he dropped his weapon ... it fell into a sewer drain.
Or, after you supposedly wiped everyone out ... the locals robbed the dead before you could.
Or, a couple of their buddies, that you never saw, grabbed the guns and made a quick retreat to fight another day.
Scenarios like these happen all the time in real-world battles.
Same with lack of supplies, when 1st starting out in a new country. Shipments are delayed, confiscated by local authorities, stolen, or even scammed by the guy who was supposed to supply the weapons. "Weapons? What weapons? I've got a truckload of bananas your employer ordered. Do you want them or not?"
It could be worse. In many real-world scenarios, trying to rob the dead gets you shot by the lone sniper noone saw or blown up by a booby-trapped body.
Or, instead of a body with only a canteen and a cple of ammo clips, you only find a blood-trail. Because, the enemy take their dead and wounded with them when they retreat. To prevent robbery and/or mutilation of their dead.
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Corporal 1st Class
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Re: Mod Question[message #94105]
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Mon, 28 March 2005 23:43
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ramfall |
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Registered:January 2001 Location: JAmodsquad, Helsingborg, ... |
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Hi again,
no need to sir me, Dan. Yeah, you got it right! Characters that are using the random equipment (inventory generated by the gameengine, not the editor) tend to have really low condition/status since each piece of equipment status is based on the carriers experience level and general game progress. So, in the earlier levels you will pretty much only run into trashed stuff.
The GABBI cheats are my best friends:) This is for modding purposes! Without them it wouldn't be possible for me to test the eqipment as easily as I can now. Using for instance 'alt + W' I can make sure that each weapon have the correct ammunition available. And using this cheat I'm able to get hold of every single item in the game. It's just a question of a whole lot of alt+w pressing. To use this cheat you need to have right-click an item (the best use is to place an item in the secondhand itemslot and rightclick this one) and then press alt+w. This creates a new item in the firsthand position. By continuing to press alt+w, still in the detailed view of the item you will notice that it now turns into the next item in MyWeapons.txt. So to get hold of the item you need you just need to be patient and continuing alt+w:ing untill you reach the item you want. This includes every item in the game. Weapons, armour etc.
Alt+o only kills the enemies, and they drop their stuff based on their normal critieria, meaning that you won't get hold of more items that way.
Btw, how are your mod coming along? I read somewhere that you got a programmer onboard. That's good! And well needed! You know how to get hold of me if you need my help.
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Master Sergeant
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Re: Mod Question[message #94111]
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Fri, 15 April 2005 23:08
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sihker |
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Registered:April 2005 Location: Estonia |
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Well, the original page (russian) has only russian mod, but search around in this forum ,there are direct links to mirrors.
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