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Where is Captain?[message #94284]

Tue, 20 December 2005 03:56

Lenn

Messages:44
Registered:September 2005
Location: Poland

Hi.
I nowhere can find person about name Captain and Elhi. Captain should be in sector P13, but him has not there Sad

So, where are they?

I apologize for mistakes, I know English language faintly :{

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Re: Where is Captain?[message #94285]

Tue, 20 December 2005 10:08

CatSpam

Messages:75
Registered:May 2004
Location: Canada

I think P13 is the location you find Agent X. This is the guy who gives you the access to Brenda's underground bunker so you can go down and finish her off.

I had trouble finding him in that sector until I realized he isn't in the main facility part of the map. He can be found in a bar somewhere near the lower left portion of the map.

As for Elhi, she was never completed in the game. There are voice files for her, but her face doesn't work (the eye coordinates aren't right.

I can't remember for sure, but I think she is set up to appear in the first sector of Atremo (according to the prof.dat file) but she isn't in the map.

I replaced her with Shank when I played the mod. I had to edit the map to add her to the map. It caused the equipment you get when you produce the claim ticket to disappear.

So it is possible to add her to the game.

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Re: Where is Captain?[message #94286]

Tue, 20 December 2005 22:50

Lenn

Messages:44
Registered:September 2005
Location: Poland

But where is Captain? Should be in the same sector where Agent X, but there nowhere is him Sad

Captain: files 85.edt and 85.sti

Elhi - So I nowhere will meet her in game? Prepares Polish version "Urban Chaos" So I will have her to add to game.

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Re: Where is Captain?[message #94287]

Wed, 21 December 2005 04:28

CatSpam

Messages:75
Registered:May 2004
Location: Canada

You can add her to the map. There are mod tools for that. There is a MAP FILE EDITOR program that allows you to turn a bloodcat into an npc. The names in the editor default to the Unfinished Business names, you will need to pick Manuel to get Elhi (both are slot 60, but I bet you already know all this.)

You will probably want to fix her eye/mouth coordinates in pro-edit. Fortunately, some modders out there have done the research for us:

idkfa wrote in this forum topic "Question re: Building on the Urban Chaos team/squad's work"
http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=35;t=000673#000003

Quote:

if you want to activate Elhi, her "eye/mouth" coords need to be changed to:
2 13; 4 27.
Alternatively you could alter the eye/mouth coords of Data/Faces/60 with STi-Edit:
-5 5; -3 1.

There's sufficient voice samples in the SPEECH, NPC_SPEECH, and BATTLESNDS files to fill out the missing dialogue. Some of them will need renaming, eg BATTLESNDS/60_die should read BATTLESNDS/60_DYING.

As for Captain, I see what you mean. I didn't know he existed before you pointed this out.

But he is not a complete npc. The npcdata .dat file is missing for him.

I did pick up the script for his speech and notice that he is there for information to access two sectors:

I10 (an offshore oil refinery run by Crepaton which has lots of cash), and
N14 (a naval base)

I don't remember these sectors. For money, he will take you to the refinery. He also gives info about where you can find someone to get you into the naval base.

Cool stuff. The maps for the oil refinery and naval base seem to be in the game. I'll have to try to get into them to see what's there.

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Re: Where is Captain?[message #94288]

Wed, 21 December 2005 04:52

Khor1255

Messages:1817
Registered:August 2003
Location: Pleasantville, NJ

Don't forget to also assign her starting location in Proedit as well. You do this in the Hidden section of her Proedit listing. Assign her the correct sector and level (as well as gridno) and she'll definately appear.

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Re: Where is Captain?[message #94289]

Wed, 21 December 2005 16:13

Phantom

Messages:66
Registered:November 2001
Location: behind you ...

to get Elhi, you have to enter "A 10" in "Sector" (ProEdit: Edit Hidden).
She'll imply that she has NightOps & medical skill, so you may want to modify some of her stats &/or equipment - I substitute her RoofTops for Nightops.
The AK47 she starts with is too powerful, considering you'll probably recruit her in the first hour of landing in Danubia {I gave her an AKSU & medical supplies}.

You'll have to heavily substitute voice files - there's enough available, but it can be time-consuming {this can be done as you play, no need to start a new game}.

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Re: Where is Captain?[message #94290]

Fri, 23 December 2005 00:54

Lenn

Messages:44
Registered:September 2005
Location: Poland

Gridno? I do not understand this word.

I tried to make so, but it does not act still. Maybe not I understood all properly Sad

Could you tell me, in points (oe. 1. 2. ), what should I do? Very Happy

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Re: Where is Captain?[message #94291]

Fri, 23 December 2005 02:04

Khor1255

Messages:1817
Registered:August 2003
Location: Pleasantville, NJ

In the Hidden section of Proedit you'll find her starting location data. It can be found in the bottom right hand corner of this box.

Assign the sector (including level, 0 = ground level) you want her to appear in. By default she's set to randomly appear because she has @ 0 as her starting location. Change this to whatever sector you want her to always show up at and make sure she's also there in the Beta Map Editor and set to priority existance.

Doing this should make her appear in game.

Gridno is the exact square on the map she spawns. You always see this number in the Beta Editor. I just checked to see if it is in Proedit and it doesn't look like it is. Just make sure the information in Proedit matches what you see in the Beta Editor and she will appear.

Sorry if that last post was confusing.

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Re: Where is Captain?[message #94292]

Fri, 23 December 2005 07:54

Lenn

Messages:44
Registered:September 2005
Location: Poland

Now it works. I repaired the movements of face also Wink

Thanks.

Captain in which sector has to be?

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Re: Where is Captain?[message #94293]

Fri, 23 December 2005 08:25

Khor1255

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Registered:August 2003
Location: Pleasantville, NJ

You can put him in any sector. Just make sure you place him with the Beta Editor in the same sector as you assign him in Proedit (which reads P13).

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Re: Where is Captain?[message #94294]

Mon, 26 December 2005 10:06

Lenn

Messages:44
Registered:September 2005
Location: Poland

Khor1255, idkfa, CatSpam: Did you create Urban Chaos?
I have question. Why doesn't act in UC the logo Sirtech? (file Splash.sti) I tried this to repair, but no way is effective Sad

I wanted to alter this initial screen.

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Re: Where is Captain?[message #94295]

Wed, 04 January 2006 03:41

CatSpam

Messages:75
Registered:May 2004
Location: Canada

Lenn,

I am a big fan of Urban Chaos, but I am not affiliated with the Mod Squad who made that excellent mod. I think my 15 minutes of fame around here came with figuring out how to get the Vengeance mod to work with an English version of the game. I am not as much into making mods as picking them apart to see how they work - and then doing some personal changes to the mods.

As Khor said, you can put Captain in any sector using the tools (Beta Editor and Proedit).

My research on the character indicates a problem, though. Captain doesn't seem to have an npcdata file for him.

There is an 085.edt file with the text for his speech, but there isn't a 085.NPC file that tells the game what he should say to your mercs, and when. The game may crash if you add him, or he may just stand there and not say anything.

As for the two extra maps I mentioned, I was unable to get them to work. The maps are there, but there is no way to enter those sectors.

For your latest question, I have never worked with the load screens - so I am not sure how to do it.

But I think there were some jpg files in Urban Chaos that may have replaced those screens. If you can save the SPLASH.STI file as a jpg and rename it to replace the related jpg file in Urban Chaos, that may work.

I am not sure how to do this replacement. I can see the files in a zipped file called UCDATA.ZIP, but I am unable to unpack those files. I am getting errors about unknown compression method. Strange.

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Re: Where is Captain?[message #94296]

Wed, 04 January 2006 12:49

Khor1255

Messages:1817
Registered:August 2003
Location: Pleasantville, NJ

I think it is likely that if you create an NPC Data file for captain (with his appropriate Proedit number as a reference by just using blank .wav and .edt files the game will accept the character without a glitch.
Ideally, you should make 'real' .edt and .wav files to match all the appropriate speech blurbs but just using blanks would at least 'trick' the game into working correctly. As long as a program finds a file with the appropriate name (reguardless of what is in that file) it usually continues to function without Runtime errors or other fatal exceptions.

Like CatSpam (who helped out quite a bit with other things besides the Vengence conversion) I'm not a part of the Mod Squad or any of the really talented teams who've created great mods and modding tools for this awesome game but I've done enough tinkering to sort of know my way around a lot of the modding tools. I have yet to make any real contribution but enjoy the creative process and the little modifacations I've been able to pull off just the same.

Sorry for the late reply but RL crap has been overwealming this last month or so and I don't see an end any time soon.

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Re: Where is Captain?[message #94297]

Tue, 17 January 2006 03:29

Lenn

Messages:44
Registered:September 2005
Location: Poland

You tell, that Captain has not file NPC? Hmm... You know how to create this file? What settings have to be in file NPC Captain?

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Re: Where is Captain?[message #94298]

Tue, 17 January 2006 03:55

Khor1255

Messages:1817
Registered:August 2003
Location: Pleasantville, NJ

Take a look at the .edt files and .wav files for an existing NPC. These should be in the NPC Data file (if it is an .slf you need the SLF Explore program to extract it into a folder of the same name), the Speech file and possibly the MercEDT file. Just make a file for every one that makes an existing NPC work and see what you get. You don't even have to put anything in the file it just has to be there when the game goes to look for it otherwise you'll get a runtime error or a total lockup.

Give it a try.

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Re: Where is Captain?[message #94299]

Fri, 03 February 2006 08:18

Lenn

Messages:44
Registered:September 2005
Location: Poland

Who is Captain exactly? Related some mission is with him?

Edit:
Martha Stolitz - has this person also nowhere, should be in sector G15. This next mistake in game?

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