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Shady[message #94925]

Mon, 05 January 2004 15:40

markpoll

Messages:101
Registered:November 2002
Location: sydney

Shady mentions that some of the guys have the flu, but come back later, as there'll be more mercs. I've been a few times and he only had the initial 3 (hired all 3). Anyone come across any more?

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Sergeant

Re: Shady[message #94926]

Mon, 05 January 2004 18:25

TrailBlazer

Messages:511
Registered:September 2001
Location: Athens, Greece

Uh, nope, there are no more mercs for hire. In UC at least Wink

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First Sergeant

Re: Shady[message #94927]

Mon, 05 January 2004 21:56

Majek

Messages:437
Registered:January 2003
Location: Slovenia

Sahdy is a jerk. I'd waste him but that wouldn't bring my 20 grand back Sad

and why does Spike have wisdom 50? Who's fault is that. Mad

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Master Sergeant

Re: Shady[message #94928]

Mon, 05 January 2004 22:48

Bearpit

Messages:1068
Registered:August 2001
Location: Sydney Australia.

drop bear.
Originally Shady was supposed to have Rude Dog or Elhi or both in his stable .... with an added trick.
We placed them in a couple Adrian maps in addition to Shady cellar set to random so there was always a 33% chance that each time you visited Shady Rude & Elhi who are free would be there for hire as one of the "more mercs later".

But since both these RPCs have extensive "guided tour of Danubia" speeches same as Ira, Dimitri, Miguel, Carlos these would be wasted by meeting them too late in the game.

I guess we could have prepared another DG merc to act as "more mercs" through using same principle of random encounter, but creating 7 DG mercs was about Zephalo's limit .... lots of splicing & editing :computer2:

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Sergeant Major

Re: Shady[message #94929]

Mon, 05 January 2004 23:59

TrailBlazer

Messages:511
Registered:September 2001
Location: Athens, Greece

Quote:

Originally posted by Majek:
I'd waste him but that wouldn't bring my 20 grand back

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHA :pitchfork:

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First Sergeant

Re: Shady[message #94930]

Tue, 06 January 2004 00:12

Shadow21

Messages:328
Registered:November 2001
Location: on route to San Hermanos

where do i find him?

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Master Sergeant

Re: Shady[message #94931]

Tue, 06 January 2004 09:17

Wodan

Messages:538
Registered:December 2001
Location: Antwerp, Belgium

Quote:

Originally posted by Majek:
Sahdy is a jerk. I'd waste him but that wouldn't bring my 20 grand back

Uhm, yes it would.

@Shadow: Somewhere in the top sectors of Troy there is a stairway leading to his basement. make sure to bring a decent lockpicker or some explosives though...

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First Sergeant

Re: Shady[message #94932]

Tue, 06 January 2004 11:16

Gideon

Messages:54
Registered:February 2003
Location: Uppsala/Sweden

I have searched for I dunno how long and I still haven't found him, can you please give me some more details?

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Corporal

Re: Shady[message #94933]

Tue, 06 January 2004 13:21

spermi

Messages:46
Registered:January 2004

Huh...I thought I can find him in Galileo?

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Corporal

Re: Shady[message #94934]

Tue, 06 January 2004 14:13

DurtyDan

Messages:103
Registered:November 2001
Location: Oregon, USA

MINOR SPOILER

There is a basement sector accessed in the Galilio southeast sector. This is the same sector you access from the subway below. The basement map should look familiar once you enter, if you played JA2 much... Wink

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Sergeant

Re: Shady[message #94935]

Tue, 06 January 2004 14:47

spermi

Messages:46
Registered:January 2004

btw...is it nessessary to clean the subways? I don't use them at all...but perhaps they're nice training (when I've finally enough ammo Very Happy

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Corporal

Re: Shady[message #94936]

Tue, 06 January 2004 19:31

Lytinwheedle

Messages:78
Registered:November 2001
Location: Luxembourg

Well, it is fun, watching little idiot street-hoods cower in fear as my team of crack commandos takes them out. Imagine you were one of these baggy trousered losers who have 'da gunn' and suddenly these camouflaged guys start blasting your with LMGs Sniper rifles, mustard gas and rifle grenades, RPO flamethrowers, etc...

*tehehehehehehehe*

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Corporal

Re: Shady[message #94937]

Tue, 06 January 2004 19:42

Majek

Messages:437
Registered:January 2003
Location: Slovenia

Quote:

Originally posted by Wodan:
Quote:
Originally posted by Majek:
Sahdy is a jerk. I'd waste him but that wouldn't bring my 20 grand back

Uhm, yes it would.

Well i did waste him, but he didn't had those 20 grand on him anymore. And Spike and Kelly turned hostile after that, os i didn't try it again.
thankuflly i have enough money anyway. ($40000+) isnce , Calisto, Troy and Galileo factories give enough per day to coever all my costs.

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Master Sergeant

Re: Shady[message #94938]

Wed, 07 January 2004 00:28

Gideon

Messages:54
Registered:February 2003
Location: Uppsala/Sweden

I've hired Cobra and Kelly, but where's Spike?

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Corporal

Re: Shady[message #94939]

Wed, 07 January 2004 02:13

adamsun

Messages:175
Registered:January 2002
Location: MA, USA

Quote:

Originally posted by Gideon:
I've hired Cobra and Kelly, but where's Spike?

He is in the same room.

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Staff Sergeant

Re: Shady[message #94940]

Wed, 07 January 2004 21:30

Gideon

Messages:54
Registered:February 2003
Location: Uppsala/Sweden

Not for me, and that's a pity, as he's cool as hell.

Is Vinny in the MOD? You talked about 7 DG mercs in the MOD, and so far
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SPOILER
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I've met Kelly, "Snake", Reuban, Skitz, I will meet Postie soon, the same with Spike and that means that 1 more is left.

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Corporal

Re: Shady[message #94941]

Wed, 07 January 2004 22:05

Majek

Messages:437
Registered:January 2003
Location: Slovenia

Well if you ask me Rosebud is It Razz

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Master Sergeant

Re: Shady[message #94942]

Wed, 07 January 2004 23:50

Gideon

Messages:54
Registered:February 2003
Location: Uppsala/Sweden

Yeah, but if so, you can also add Mr. Goose, as he is Leon, and the Cargo Manager, as he was Bob, so that doesn't count.

Also, you can add Tex, as he was in DG but not in normal JA2.

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Corporal

Re: Shady[message #94943]

Thu, 08 January 2004 19:09

Majek

Messages:437
Registered:January 2003
Location: Slovenia

so? ythe did promise DG mercs so Tex does count Razz

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Master Sergeant

Re: Shady[message #94944]

Thu, 08 January 2004 19:30

jona

Messages:19
Registered:October 2002
Location: germany

Hello!

So, how many Faces(!) of DG-mercs are available?

Next to Reuban, Skitz, Postie, Kelly, Snake and Spike, who else has a FACE of another DG Merc?

I read, there is Leon, Bob, anyone else?

As it seems, there are a lot links to Metavira; perhaps Batman took a lot from the -unfinished- "Return to MV" Mod ???

There could have been another person: "NPC 065"
who could have been placed into that cellar.....

And where to find Elhi ?

Greetimgs
Jona

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Private

Re: Shady[message #94945]

Sun, 11 January 2004 17:50

Nutter

Messages:20
Registered:August 2002
Location: New Zealand

Where *is* Elhi?

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Private 1st Class

Re: Shady[message #94946]

Sun, 11 January 2004 20:51

jEbUs

Messages:36
Registered:November 2003
Location: Brugge, Belgium

There is no Elhi. She was cancelled from the game.

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Private 1st Class

Re: Shady[message #94947]

Sun, 11 January 2004 21:00

Bearpit

Messages:1068
Registered:August 2001
Location: Sydney Australia.

The 7th DG merc is in Adrian .... not for hire though, just making a cameo appearance.

I guess there are 9 DG counting Rosebud & Tex but only 8 hireable.

Others who were considered.

Marty "Kaboom" Moffat.

"Mike" .... was at one time planned to be recruitable .... as a spy & traitor who turned on the team when triggered by a scripted event.

"Gaston" from UB was planned to join MERC.
"Stogie" from UB was also planned to join MERC.
The MERC casualties to facilitate Gaston & Stogie would have probably been Biff & Haywire.
Flo became Ayana & Bubba became Morgan .... sorta miss Bubba though.
Jubilee was inherited from Deidranna Lives to replace Buns.

RPC65 is vacant.
It may be possible to create another recruitable local for RPC65 .... depending on several factors.

1. Wodan makes a face.

2. Someone writes 75 lines of dialogue.

3. Someone records 75 lines of dialogue.

4. Traiblazer takes all the above, cleans up the waves, creates gaps then fixes up a script.

As for Elhi. :nerd: :rolleyes: :eek4:
Her face & virtually all waves were finished but the cleaned up versions were accidentally trashed so Trailblazer will eventually re-edit & clean up the raw data originals which still survive & we need her to record a few more.
Something for the expansion pack.

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Sergeant Major

Re: Shady[message #94948]

Sun, 11 January 2004 22:55

TrailBlazer

Messages:511
Registered:September 2001
Location: Athens, Greece

Fred: I did re-edit them, didn't it? Surprised

Anyway, I am willing to do step 4. How about the other steps? Wink

And, Elhi exists in Danubia, though partly finished...

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First Sergeant

Re: Shady[message #94949]

Mon, 12 January 2004 06:22

Nutter

Messages:20
Registered:August 2002
Location: New Zealand

Eagerly awaiting the expansion pack...

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Private 1st Class

Re: Shady[message #94950]

Tue, 13 January 2004 07:03

Ninth Hour

Messages:33
Registered:January 2004

Quote:

Originally posted by Majek:
and why does Spike have wisdom 50?

Yeah, curious about this too, since I don't remember his Wis being this low in JA. In fact, the new Wis values are a little surprising. Biff apparently had a brain transplant (Wis 98!), while Spike is dumber than Rosebud.

Who knows? Maybe it's a balance issue, to keep already powerful guys from improving too fast.

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Private 1st Class

Re: Shady[message #94951]

Tue, 13 January 2004 11:00

plop

Messages:43
Registered:December 2000
Location: Louisiana

There is very little difference between 50 wisdom and 98 wisdom, especially for an already elite merc like Spike.

The stats are odd though. "Colonel" Leo Kelly has about 1/4 the leadership of Biff, for example. I don't think so. :biglaugh:

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Corporal

Re: Shady[message #94952]

Tue, 13 January 2004 14:19

markpoll

Messages:101
Registered:November 2002
Location: sydney

I've got Spike in my A team. As I see it, his wisdom is irrelevant as his stats are already at least what I need. Wisdom's mainly for mercs like Spider, who have potential, but a lot of work to do. Spike's already there.

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Sergeant

Re: Shady[message #94953]

Tue, 13 January 2004 14:47

Ninth Hour

Messages:33
Registered:January 2004

Yeah, Spike's low wisdom doesn't make a difference in practical terms. But it doesn't make sense either. Did he suffer a head wound from previous wars or something?

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Private 1st Class

Re: Shady[message #94954]

Tue, 13 January 2004 19:46

jona

Messages:19
Registered:October 2002
Location: germany

Hello Everyone!

Thanks for a great mod, no its much more: Its a whole new game!
But its so awful hard - a chance to make it a bit easier Wink

))

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RPC65 is vacant.
It may be possible to create another recruitable local for RPC65 .... depending on several factors.

As for Elhi.
Something for the expansion pack.
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Hmmm, so it seems, there is room for a "Jonas Edition" again....

I already did a "custom" Prof.dat with some "improvements" as Raven has NO again, Gasket is now a lockpick expert, fixed the "Claudia"-Bug etc., now I will (re-)insert 2 missing slots; well that means, I will have to change two maps....

No, I DONT have custom speech and texts.....
So I will take 2 RPCs from the Original....
Perhaps Dimitri and Miguel ?

Is there a robot in UC?
If yes, then it seems, that he is a bit weak, I will try to boost him up; striker armor and such...

I wonder, if it would be allowed to post my "addon" when its finished ???

Greetings
Jona

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Private

Re: Shady[message #94955]

Tue, 13 January 2004 20:12

atrain

Messages:3
Registered:July 2003
Location: melbourne, australia

tex is good in his DG mode but i miss the camera from the first game.

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Civilian

Re: Shady[message #94956]

Wed, 14 January 2004 11:09

Wodan

Messages:538
Registered:December 2001
Location: Antwerp, Belgium

DG mode??

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First Sergeant

Re: Shady[message #94957]

Thu, 15 January 2004 00:13

jona

Messages:19
Registered:October 2002
Location: germany

Hello!

So, I did it (again)!
I modified some things in prof.dat and added the 2 "missing" RPCs ... looks cool!

Now Elhi is there (Now I know, WHY she was left out....)
Also is Manuel (from UB) a POW in a cell next to Mirinda; wounded of course Wink

))
(pity, he still has the original dialoque....)

I can now try it out.....UC_JE Wink

))

Greetings
Jona

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Private

Re: Shady[message #94958]

Fri, 16 January 2004 18:24

jan175

Messages:111
Registered:October 2001
Location: S'pore (formerly Hobart, ...

couldnt help but think of the magnificent seven when the seven DG mercs were mentioned. Ahh..such nostalgia..I'm surprised JA does this for me, such is the charm the characters in the game have on you. Wink

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Sergeant

Re: Shady[message #94959]

Wed, 21 January 2004 02:09

jan175

Messages:111
Registered:October 2001
Location: S'pore (formerly Hobart, ...

just on the whereabts of Shady's..is it the SE sector of Galileo where there's also the subway building in the northwest, and Shady's is the basement where there are a lot of locked doors and a reception-like counter when u first descend from the stairs?

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Sergeant

Re: Shady[message #94960]

Tue, 27 January 2004 19:16

Nightkin

Messages:10
Registered:January 2002
Location: Germany

I hired Kelly but had no use for Cobra. Used to check back there from time to time to meet Spike.

Since I didn't meet him yet I am just wondering if I have to recruit Cobra in order to get Spike available? Or are not all mercs available in one game and do I just have bad luck?

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Private

Re: Shady[message #94961]

Tue, 27 January 2004 23:12

Bearpit

Messages:1068
Registered:August 2001
Location: Sydney Australia.

First time you enter the room all 3 mercs should be present & available.
There were unconfirmed reports that on subsequent visits they appear randomly .... which shouldn't occur. They are set to appear permanently till hired.

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Sergeant Major

Re: Shady[message #94962]

Wed, 28 January 2004 01:58

Nightkin

Messages:10
Registered:January 2002
Location: Germany

:bawling: So no Spike for me...

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Private

Re: Shady[message #94963]

Wed, 28 January 2004 14:33

Triggy

Messages:40
Registered:January 2004
Location: Alberta, Canada

Me, too. No Spike. Just Kelly and Cobra. :sadyellow:

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Corporal

Re: Shady[message #94964]

Wed, 28 January 2004 14:47

markpoll

Messages:101
Registered:November 2002
Location: sydney

That's a shame. Spike is the most useful I find. I put him in my A team. Heavy Weapons expert is just great for all the heavy weapons in UC. Kelly and Cobra have been more than useful in my B team as well.

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Sergeant

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