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Fri, 16 January 2004 01:10 
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Registered:October 2003 |
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I've heard several people mention stealing items from soldiers and NPC's. How do you do that? I've been playing JA2 since it came out and didn't know you could steal. Is it a matter of knocking them unconscious with a crowbar or something? Does it require high DEX? Stealthy skill?
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| Re: Stealing?[message #95659]
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Fri, 16 January 2004 01:44 
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| Blast |
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Registered:October 2000
Location: Brussels,Belgium |
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In theory you don't need to have your ennemy unconcious to steal his stuff but it seems it helps.
This procedure works almost 100% of times. Usually, you rush to the guy and knock him down a 3 punches (right hand empty). Once he is lying on his face, you should punch once more because usually on the next turn he wakes up and shoots you at point blank range. Don't do it a 5th time because when the guy in in dying state, you won't be able to steal any more.
Then the procedure is the following : (you need 20 AP's for that or somebody else to help you sharing the action)
- you knock once again (4 AP) (so that you don't get a nasty surprise on next turn)
- stand up (2 AP)
- walk back one tile (2 AP) (because there is a bug that makes the stealing not working if you are already by the body - same bug as filling with petrol the cars)
- you ctrl-click on the body so that you get the usual read grab hand and steal (2 + 10 AP).
- You get the clock and a message telling you what you stole.
If both hands are empty, or if a slot, large enough, is empty in your inventory, then it is over. You can click Done and kill the guy with a few more punches on the next turn (silent and gives you more STR and DEX).
If you don't have a slot or hands available, then you usually get in your hands (not always) the new weapon and you find at your feet the one you were carrying. Finish off the guy with your fists.
If it fails (too low DEX) and the guy is not yet too low on stats, you can try again (knock, stand, walk back etc...)
You can use or mix different techniques to get the guy unconcious : Shoot at the legs ; use 12gauge ; use crowbar or duster ; use tranquilizer (not sure it exist in UC) ; throw a stun grenade, use 2 mercs to double the AP's. But remember that if you don't punch the guy once he is unconsious he will most likely wake up on next turn. On the other hand do not overdo it because the guy must be at a minimum in critical state when you try to steal.
Give it a try, it is fun. In UC the guys on the roof usually have goodies that you want to try to steal :diabolical:
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| Re: Stealing?[message #95661]
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Fri, 16 January 2004 02:24
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| Blast |
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Messages:32
Registered:October 2000
Location: Brussels,Belgium |
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Quote:Originally posted by McKnight:
Oh, and just to clarify on Blasts post - use ctrl+click to search, not sure what alt-click does but am reasonably sure it wont work.
Also, have found I am able to steal from enemies without doing the run away one step and run back and steal trick that was required for regular JA2. Give it a try - those few extra APs might just save your life... or I might just be lucky. You are right, sorry, I'll edit my post for more clarity.
Also, indeed, not walking back works as well... occasionally... I have found that if you punch once the guy when he is unconcious, you get to crouch position, then when you initiate the steal, you stand up and it it seems that this is enough to work. However I have tried it twice in JA2:UC and it failed twice :confused: so I don't take any chance any more, I don't like to reload. :armsfolded:
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| Re: Stealing?[message #95664]
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Fri, 16 January 2004 17:10
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| Larynx |
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Registered:April 2003 |
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Before you pick up an item, check the sector inventory screen. If you see that the item is greyed out there, that means that it belongs to somebody, and they may take offense to your taking it. If it isn't greyed out, then you're free to take it, and there should be no ill effects. Items may also be greyed out if they are behind a locked door (or other inaccessible area) or if you are not in the sector whose inventory you are viewing.
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| Re: Stealing?[message #95665]
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Fri, 16 January 2004 17:43
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| Gallagher |
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Registered:October 2002
Location: CANADA |
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@scurvey The following are good habits to get into:
1. After battle, use your lockpicker/breaker to open every thing in town.
2. Go to Strategic screen. Open the sector Inventory and dole out equipment, reload weapons(etc.).
3. If there are items grayed-out, you know where they are on the map. If it's something you want, then go back to Tactical and plan on keeping yourself from being seen taking the item.
You would not want to get caught with your hand in the proverbial cookie jar.
Plus, more efficiency in handling equipment should give you more time for battles! 
In fact, when I play the original JA2 now, I use cheats to Teleport around the sector and show items... nothing nefarious, but it does speed things up considerably. Have fun, compadre! 
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| Re: Stealing?[message #95670]
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Mon, 19 January 2004 12:29
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| markpoll |
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Registered:November 2002
Location: sydney |
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Quote:Originally posted by Gallagher:
@scurvey The following are good habits to get into:
1. After battle, use your lockpicker/breaker to open every thing in town.
2. Go to Strategic screen. Open the sector Inventory and dole out equipment, reload weapons(etc.).
3. If there are items grayed-out, you know where they are on the map. If it's something you want, then go back to Tactical and plan on keeping yourself from being seen taking the item.
You would not want to get caught with your hand in the proverbial cookie jar.
Plus, more efficiency in handling equipment should give you more time for battles!
In fact, when I play the original JA2 now, I use cheats to Teleport around the sector and show items... nothing nefarious, but it does speed things up considerably. Have fun, compadre! This doesn't really apply to UC, but it does to some other mods, eg SOG69. Trapped items (some of them really useful) don't appear in the sector inventory. You have to pick them up in map.
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| Re: Stealing?[message #95671]
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Mon, 19 January 2004 23:03
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| xaint |
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Registered:January 2004
Location: Czech republic |
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Hi,
i want to recommend to steal dragunovs from snipers in first SAMs, near Calico. I beat them, both, and steal their Dragunovs! And I have 2 DRAGUNOVS!!!!
Recommended!
And DONT WORRY with the ammo. Bobby's rays has 120 ammo packs of this amunition. Really good  2 packs, 240 bullets for dragunov...
Enjoy!
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