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5.56 ammo questions[message #95918]

Wed, 21 January 2004 07:24

dalbuc is currently offline

Messages:7
Registered:January 2002

I've got ahost of nice 5.56 NATO weapons but dmaned if I can find ammo for them. Bobby Ray's doesn't carry much 5.56 and so I'm presently out of 5.56 in Troy with no way ot grab more. Am I just getting unlucky with the mix a Bobby Ray's or did I get these guns too early?

One last question, the CAR-15 takes .223 whihc I thought was 5.56mm. Is the Car-15 round just lighter than the 5.56mm round and that is why the differentiation?

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Re: 5.56 ammo questions[message #95919]

Wed, 21 January 2004 07:53

Desertfish is currently offline

Messages:4
Registered:January 2004
Location: Belgium

you can usually buy 5.56 ammo from tony, his colleague smitty (spelling?) who is in a town square near him and bobby ray's, haven't come across any other merchants that sell it so far...
check bobby ray's stock every day, i think he restocks once a day (i usually check it around 10 am each day) by the way i prefer the 5.54 Russian weapons, less ammo troubles!
have fun!

ps: your other question: i guess .223 is the civilian or older variant of 5.56 ammo (less penetrating?) someone correct me if i'm wrong..

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Civilian

Re: 5.56 ammo questions[message #95920]

Wed, 21 January 2004 08:28

Uninen is currently offline

Messages:21
Registered:January 2004
Location: Festung Europa, Finnland

In real world..

.223 Remington and 5.56x45mm NATO are the same thing.

There is no difference.

.223 is just the commercial name for the ammo and 5,56x45mm is the military name..

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Re: 5.56 ammo questions[message #95921]

Wed, 21 January 2004 08:55

dalbuc is currently offline

Messages:7
Registered:January 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Uninen:
In real world..

.223 Remington and 5.56x45mm NATO are the same thing.

There is no difference.

.223 is just the commercial name for the ammo and 5,56x45mm is the military name..

So why the difference in game terms?

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Re: 5.56 ammo questions[message #95922]

Wed, 21 January 2004 09:37

cpd315 is currently offline

Messages:47
Registered:May 2002
Location: Spring, TX

The difference is in the damage. Notice the damage difference between a .223 and 5.56? That is to symbolize the upgrade to an M4. I'm going to assume that it was easier to just rename some SKS ammo, versus making new ammo...or something to that effect.

They had to work within the parameters of the game.

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Re: 5.56 ammo questions[message #95923]

Wed, 21 January 2004 15:46

zak is currently offline

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Registered:January 2004

http://www.winchester.com/law/news/news.eye?storyid=11

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Re: 5.56 ammo questions[message #95924]

Wed, 21 January 2004 18:07

ramfall is currently offline

Messages:405
Registered:January 2001
Location: JAmodsquad, Helsingborg, ...

Quote:

Originally posted by dalbuc:
Quote:
Originally posted by Uninen:
In real world..

.223 Remington and 5.56x45mm NATO are the same thing.

There is no difference.

.223 is just the commercial name for the ammo and 5,56x45mm is the military name..
So why the difference in game terms?

Because of gamelimitations. Each ammotype can only handle two sizes of clips. So, the .223 is a 20 round clip in the game without AP, while the 5,56 mm Nato is featured in 30 and 120 round clips/boxes.

And also I needed a crappy assaultrifle to use in the first part of the game. I also wanted to make the upgrade apparent, so when you upgrade from Car-15 to M4 you'd notice the difference.
:ramfall:

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Re: 5.56 ammo questions[message #95925]

Wed, 21 January 2004 19:05

Kaerar is currently offline

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Registered:January 2003
Location: Australia :D

The chamber pressure of Military grade firearms is lower than that of civilian firearms. Hence if you use .223 civi ammo in a military grade firearm you'll cause damage and jamming of the gun. However you can use the military grade 5.56 NATO in a .223 civi rifle with no damage to the gun.

I hope I got that the right way round please correct me if I didn't Very Happy

Very Happy

Kaerar out

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Re: 5.56 ammo questions[message #95926]

Wed, 21 January 2004 22:59

der_flegel is currently offline

Messages:2
Registered:December 2003

The 5.56mm military cartridge fired in a .223 Rem chamber is considered by SAAMI (Small Arm and Ammunition Manufacturers Institute) to be an unsafe ammunition combination.

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Re: 5.56 ammo questions[message #95927]

Thu, 22 January 2004 20:34

Jawz II is currently offline

Messages:86
Registered:November 2003

the rule of thumbs is if they call it .308 its the hunting version of 7.62x51 (same size,diffrent charge)

same goes fer 5.56 and .223
theres a good thread covering this stuff somewhere on the UC forums do a search

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Re: 5.56 ammo questions[message #95928]

Fri, 23 January 2004 01:40

Kaerar is currently offline

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Registered:January 2003
Location: Australia :D

Thought I might have got it the wrong way round :wb:

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Re: 5.56 ammo questions[message #95929]

Fri, 23 January 2004 09:38

dalbuc is currently offline

Messages:7
Registered:January 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by ramfall:
[Because of gamelimitations. Each ammotype can only handle two sizes of clips. So, the .223 is a 20 round clip in the game without AP, while the 5,56 mm Nato is featured in 30 and 120 round clips/boxes.

And also I needed a crappy assaultrifle to use in the first part of the game. I also wanted to make the upgrade apparent, so when you upgrade from Car-15 to M4 you'd notice the difference.
:ramfall: [/QB]

I figured there was some game type issue like this and you REALLY notice the upgrade from the Car-15 to the M4 so that worked quite nicely.

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Re: 5.56 ammo questions[message #95930]

Fri, 23 January 2004 09:58

Uninen is currently offline

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Registered:January 2004
Location: Festung Europa, Finnland

CAR-15 crappy?

:confused:

I used one in 2 or 3 battles.. i did better than M4s i had.. and the CAR-15 used by ROSEBUD..

M4s by Reaper, Gus, Trevor and my custom merc..

:biglaugh:

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Re: 5.56 ammo questions[message #95931]

Fri, 23 January 2004 12:05

dalbuc is currently offline

Messages:7
Registered:January 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Uninen:
CAR-15 crappy?

:confused:

I used one in 2 or 3 battles.. i did better than M4s i had.. and the CAR-15 used by ROSEBUD..

M4s by Reaper, Gus, Trevor and my custom merc..

:biglaugh:

Car-15 is simply no better than any decent SMG in the game looking at its stats.

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Re: 5.56 ammo questions[message #95932]

Fri, 23 January 2004 18:59

Sweeper is currently offline

Messages:99
Registered:March 2002
Location: Namsos, Tr

I had a few CAR-15's didn't get many hits, so I threw it in for M4 upgrades.
Now the M4 is crap for my use (Rooftop near end of Line Of Sight shooting) So the M4 isn't exactly ranged for my use, can be used indoor however, Lynx uses a AKSU-74, remember, doors are you friends, I had Lynx open a door, shoot one of the enemies, and close it again.
I kept repeating this tactic and I got 5 kills thanks to the door.

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