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Re: prof.dat -> xml[message #181622]

Wed, 16 April 2008 01:35

the scorpion

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these "groups" you mention are very different. some of them are just factions as defined in prof.dat, others are hardcoded slot limitations.

i'd really like you guys to keep in mind what lesh wrote up there. There is a lot of important data at a "higher" level than prof.dat that needs to be adressed.

and i was wondering whether it'd be necessary to externalise this first.

lesh mentioned the most important case, the character's "role", or, better, what one can do with a character on a specific slot.
I think this is extremely important and steps forward in this department could help a lot when adressing prof.dat

then something else is placement routines. If you look at prof.dat, you typcially encounter two different possible entries for the sector in which the character appears: an explicit sector on the one hand, and "@0" on the other hand.

Now every @0 character has a hardcoded placement routines which can only very unreliably and in very crude ways be changed.

This is something that is typcially not really editable in prof.dat, even if you set a specific sector, you still get the hardoded placement routine

this effecttivly keeps many slots from being used arbitrarily and restricts many a slot.

then what lesh also mentions is face coords. Only AIM and MERC characters have their face coords defined by prof.dat, RPC's, IMP's and EPC's have theirs hardcoded.
if we want to be able to expand on prof.dat, which seems the main point in porting it to .xml, there must be ways to define new coords for new RPC chars. In order to define new RPC chars, we must be somewhat flexible with the slots...

all of these things have very rigid ties to each other. I think it may have to be deal with as a whole package in order to achieve the best results.

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		prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Tue, 15 April 2008 13:31
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Kaerius on Tue, 15 April 2008 13:35
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Mauser on Tue, 15 April 2008 14:06
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Tue, 15 April 2008 14:48
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Lt.Havoc on Tue, 15 April 2008 15:15
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Tue, 15 April 2008 15:28
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Lt.Havoc on Tue, 15 April 2008 15:32
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Tue, 15 April 2008 15:38
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Mauser on Tue, 15 April 2008 15:39
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Tue, 15 April 2008 15:47
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Tue, 15 April 2008 16:09
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Tue, 15 April 2008 18:39
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Tue, 15 April 2008 21:27
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Tue, 15 April 2008 21:58
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Lesh 2 on Tue, 15 April 2008 22:11
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: ctiberious on Tue, 15 April 2008 22:41
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Wed, 16 April 2008 01:03
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Wed, 16 April 2008 01:35
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Wed, 16 April 2008 01:38
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Wed, 16 April 2008 02:30
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Wed, 16 April 2008 02:38
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Wed, 16 April 2008 16:19
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Wed, 16 April 2008 22:05
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Thu, 17 April 2008 01:45
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Thu, 17 April 2008 01:54
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Thu, 17 April 2008 02:18
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Thu, 17 April 2008 19:25
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Thu, 17 April 2008 23:26
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Fri, 18 April 2008 02:18
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Fri, 18 April 2008 14:16
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: SpaceViking on Fri, 18 April 2008 16:24
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Sat, 19 April 2008 01:53
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Sat, 19 April 2008 02:17
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: SpaceViking on Sat, 19 April 2008 02:56
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Sat, 19 April 2008 03:37
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Sat, 19 April 2008 03:43
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Sat, 19 April 2008 14:38
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Sat, 19 April 2008 22:53
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Sun, 20 April 2008 00:49
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Sun, 20 April 2008 01:50
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Sun, 20 April 2008 04:48
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Mon, 21 April 2008 02:07
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Kaerar on Tue, 22 April 2008 16:58
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Tue, 22 April 2008 19:10
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Marlboro Man on Tue, 22 April 2008 20:00
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Tue, 22 April 2008 22:02
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Wed, 23 April 2008 02:59
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Wed, 23 April 2008 15:17
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Kaerar on Wed, 23 April 2008 15:56
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Wed, 23 April 2008 21:11
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Wed, 23 April 2008 21:53
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Wed, 23 April 2008 21:56
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Thu, 24 April 2008 01:57
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Thu, 24 April 2008 05:25
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Kaiden on Thu, 24 April 2008 06:46
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Realist on Thu, 24 April 2008 10:20
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Thu, 24 April 2008 12:37
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Thu, 24 April 2008 13:10
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Fri, 25 April 2008 03:06
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Fri, 25 April 2008 14:14
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Fri, 25 April 2008 14:22
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Fri, 25 April 2008 15:03
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Sat, 26 April 2008 15:34
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Sat, 26 April 2008 17:05
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Sat, 26 April 2008 18:36
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Sat, 26 April 2008 22:26
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Kaerar on Sun, 27 April 2008 13:02
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Sun, 27 April 2008 16:40
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Kaerar on Sun, 27 April 2008 18:46
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: SpaceViking on Mon, 28 April 2008 15:55
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Mon, 28 April 2008 16:29
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Mon, 28 April 2008 23:01
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: SpaceViking on Mon, 28 April 2008 23:24
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Lokadamus on Tue, 29 April 2008 11:19
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Tue, 29 April 2008 12:01
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Tue, 29 April 2008 14:35
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Mauser on Tue, 29 April 2008 16:37
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: lockie on Tue, 29 April 2008 16:45
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Wed, 30 April 2008 01:57
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Wed, 30 April 2008 02:02
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Thu, 01 May 2008 01:29
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Fri, 02 May 2008 00:54
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Fri, 02 May 2008 01:04
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Fri, 02 May 2008 01:29
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Fri, 02 May 2008 01:37
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Fri, 02 May 2008 02:28
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Fri, 02 May 2008 02:35
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Fri, 02 May 2008 02:47
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Fri, 02 May 2008 02:49
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Fri, 02 May 2008 11:12
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Kaiden on Fri, 02 May 2008 17:55
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Fri, 02 May 2008 23:05
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Fri, 02 May 2008 23:17
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Fri, 02 May 2008 23:44
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Sat, 03 May 2008 00:05
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Sat, 03 May 2008 00:09
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Sat, 03 May 2008 00:56
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Sat, 03 May 2008 01:46
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Sat, 03 May 2008 02:24
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Sat, 03 May 2008 08:07
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Mon, 05 May 2008 00:15
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Mon, 05 May 2008 00:20
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Mon, 05 May 2008 00:37
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Marlboro Man on Mon, 05 May 2008 01:00
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Mon, 05 May 2008 01:08
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Seraph on Mon, 05 May 2008 01:09
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Mon, 05 May 2008 01:13
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Mon, 05 May 2008 02:02
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Mon, 05 May 2008 02:48
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Mon, 05 May 2008 11:51
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Kaerar on Mon, 05 May 2008 14:16
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Mon, 05 May 2008 17:09
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Kaerar on Mon, 05 May 2008 17:21
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Mon, 05 May 2008 17:30
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Mon, 05 May 2008 20:08
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Tue, 06 May 2008 03:41
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Seraph on Tue, 06 May 2008 18:42
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Tue, 06 May 2008 20:45
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Lokadamus on Fri, 09 May 2008 09:34
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Kaerar on Fri, 09 May 2008 14:46
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Sat, 10 May 2008 12:27
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Sat, 17 May 2008 14:37
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