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Re: prof.dat -> xml[message #182691]

Thu, 24 April 2008 13:10

Khor1255

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Location: Pleasantville, NJ

That's right.

As I've said before, if the move to name related references is only visible in the inner workings of the code than that is all fine and well. It would not affect us modders.

But doing away completely with slot references means having to the identify all related data by (presumably) names. This would get extremely messy especially for either modders who don't intimately know the interrelations of every character they change or those fixing or changing things in a modded version of Ja2.

An easier and more intuative way of handling this on our end would be to keep the slot numbers round only for their listing and data referencing purposes. But if in the internal workings of the game it is better to reference characters by name again, I am all for it.

To elaborate on what Kaiden said:

You can define mercs by their relevant tags you would externalise through booleans or whatever in order to make them part of a certain faction, hireable organization, quest componenet, or whatever. This would be where the true definition of a Ja2 character would be. Slot placement would ideally be reduced to just what order in the list the character happened to be and what dependant data files they used.

If you change the way the game looks at character referencing INTERNALLY of course us modders have no objection (or in my case even informed response other than it sounds good the way you describe it).

One of the most important things is to either make your externalisations transparently understandable or provide headers describing all of the fields the modder can change so we know what we are doing without having to ask a bunch of redundant questions.

Thanx again for working on this.

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		prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Tue, 15 April 2008 13:31
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Kaerius on Tue, 15 April 2008 13:35
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Mauser on Tue, 15 April 2008 14:06
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Tue, 15 April 2008 14:48
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Lt.Havoc on Tue, 15 April 2008 15:15
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Tue, 15 April 2008 15:28
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Lt.Havoc on Tue, 15 April 2008 15:32
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Tue, 15 April 2008 15:38
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Mauser on Tue, 15 April 2008 15:39
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Tue, 15 April 2008 15:47
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Tue, 15 April 2008 16:09
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Tue, 15 April 2008 18:39
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Tue, 15 April 2008 21:27
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Tue, 15 April 2008 21:58
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Lesh 2 on Tue, 15 April 2008 22:11
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: ctiberious on Tue, 15 April 2008 22:41
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Wed, 16 April 2008 01:03
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Wed, 16 April 2008 01:35
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Wed, 16 April 2008 01:38
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Wed, 16 April 2008 02:30
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Wed, 16 April 2008 02:38
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Wed, 16 April 2008 16:19
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Wed, 16 April 2008 22:05
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Thu, 17 April 2008 01:45
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Thu, 17 April 2008 01:54
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Thu, 17 April 2008 02:18
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Thu, 17 April 2008 19:25
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Thu, 17 April 2008 23:26
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Fri, 18 April 2008 02:18
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Fri, 18 April 2008 14:16
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: SpaceViking on Fri, 18 April 2008 16:24
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Sat, 19 April 2008 01:53
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Sat, 19 April 2008 02:17
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: SpaceViking on Sat, 19 April 2008 02:56
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Sat, 19 April 2008 03:37
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Sat, 19 April 2008 03:43
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Sat, 19 April 2008 14:38
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Sat, 19 April 2008 22:53
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Sun, 20 April 2008 00:49
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Sun, 20 April 2008 01:50
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Sun, 20 April 2008 04:48
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Mon, 21 April 2008 02:07
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Kaerar on Tue, 22 April 2008 16:58
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Tue, 22 April 2008 19:10
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Marlboro Man on Tue, 22 April 2008 20:00
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Tue, 22 April 2008 22:02
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Wed, 23 April 2008 02:59
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Wed, 23 April 2008 15:17
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Kaerar on Wed, 23 April 2008 15:56
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Wed, 23 April 2008 21:11
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Wed, 23 April 2008 21:53
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Wed, 23 April 2008 21:56
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Thu, 24 April 2008 01:57
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Thu, 24 April 2008 05:25
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Kaiden on Thu, 24 April 2008 06:46
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Realist on Thu, 24 April 2008 10:20
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Thu, 24 April 2008 12:37
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Thu, 24 April 2008 13:10
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Fri, 25 April 2008 03:06
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Fri, 25 April 2008 14:14
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Fri, 25 April 2008 14:22
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Fri, 25 April 2008 15:03
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Sat, 26 April 2008 15:34
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Sat, 26 April 2008 17:05
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Sat, 26 April 2008 18:36
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Sat, 26 April 2008 22:26
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Kaerar on Sun, 27 April 2008 13:02
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Sun, 27 April 2008 16:40
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Kaerar on Sun, 27 April 2008 18:46
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: SpaceViking on Mon, 28 April 2008 15:55
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Mon, 28 April 2008 16:29
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Mon, 28 April 2008 23:01
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: SpaceViking on Mon, 28 April 2008 23:24
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Lokadamus on Tue, 29 April 2008 11:19
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Tue, 29 April 2008 12:01
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Tue, 29 April 2008 14:35
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Mauser on Tue, 29 April 2008 16:37
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: lockie on Tue, 29 April 2008 16:45
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Wed, 30 April 2008 01:57
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Wed, 30 April 2008 02:02
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Thu, 01 May 2008 01:29
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Fri, 02 May 2008 00:54
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Fri, 02 May 2008 01:04
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Fri, 02 May 2008 01:29
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Fri, 02 May 2008 01:37
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Fri, 02 May 2008 02:28
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Fri, 02 May 2008 02:35
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Fri, 02 May 2008 02:47
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Fri, 02 May 2008 02:49
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Fri, 02 May 2008 11:12
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Kaiden on Fri, 02 May 2008 17:55
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Fri, 02 May 2008 23:05
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Fri, 02 May 2008 23:17
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Fri, 02 May 2008 23:44
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Sat, 03 May 2008 00:05
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Sat, 03 May 2008 00:09
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Sat, 03 May 2008 00:56
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Sat, 03 May 2008 01:46
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Sat, 03 May 2008 02:24
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Sat, 03 May 2008 08:07
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Mon, 05 May 2008 00:15
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Mon, 05 May 2008 00:20
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Mon, 05 May 2008 00:37
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Marlboro Man on Mon, 05 May 2008 01:00
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Mon, 05 May 2008 01:08
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Seraph on Mon, 05 May 2008 01:09
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Mon, 05 May 2008 01:13
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Mon, 05 May 2008 02:02
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Mon, 05 May 2008 02:48
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Mon, 05 May 2008 11:51
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Kaerar on Mon, 05 May 2008 14:16
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Mon, 05 May 2008 17:09
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Kaerar on Mon, 05 May 2008 17:21
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Mon, 05 May 2008 17:30
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Mon, 05 May 2008 20:08
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Khor1255 on Tue, 06 May 2008 03:41
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Seraph on Tue, 06 May 2008 18:42
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Tue, 06 May 2008 20:45
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Lokadamus on Fri, 09 May 2008 09:34
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: Kaerar on Fri, 09 May 2008 14:46
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: BirdFlu on Sat, 10 May 2008 12:27
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: the scorpion on Sat, 17 May 2008 14:37
		Re: prof.dat -> xml By: usrbid on Thu, 08 December 2011 10:23

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