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Re: Map Editor[message #190471]

Thu, 10 July 2008 23:03

Doolan

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Registered:July 2006

About the Mac users, what I meant was that they have to overcome many, many difficulties to get it to work.

Many know about the game and played it ages ago, but simply accepted that a Mac port wasn't going to be made. When they got the ability to play the Windows version through CrossOver, VMware, Parallels or Boot Camp, those willing to go that far (or who had other reasons to install that software in the first place) did it and lived happily ever after.

Those probably won't look for Stracciatella or 1.13 because they already have what they wanted (in a way) and don't know there are additional goodies beyond playing Gold in a virtual machine. A compiled .app in MacUpdate or MGF would no doubt make them switch. But for most, having to install XCode and building the app themselves is more inconvenient than just installing Windows and playing.

As for those who don't know JA2 or have only heard of it / played it once or twice but don't have it, they would probably buy it if they knew that they can just slap the datafiles into the package of an Intel-native app and play away, but otherwise it's just an added inconvenience.

They would have to get curious enough to look up Stracciatella, have XCode, be able to compile the app and get the datafiles (and a PC is needed to get them no matter what, or a copy of the Linux version).

My belief is that if all inconveniences are solved but one, that last one will solve itself. Since we can't really release the datafiles, more publicity and an easier distribution method would help a tad.

A guy in your forums already built 0.8 for OSX, which works beautifully with only one or two crashes here and there. Simply hosting that file with his permission on your web site along with instructions and "OH MY GOD THIS WORKS IN OSX" in big flashy letters, paired with a link in MGF, would be really easy to do and bring a lot of attention. I even have friends who work at InsideMacGames who would love publishing a news story on the subject...

Just as an example, I've been busy recently and I already had 1.13 installed in a virtual machine. I was happy with that, so even though I'm a hardcore JA2 fanatic I didn't discover Stracciatella until two days ago when I visited here and wondered what the "new forum folder" was. If that happened to me, I suppose most "casual" JA2 players would probably never find out.

Anyway, enough writing, I have to go back to playing 0.8 on my Mac Mini Cool

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		Re: Map Editor By: Doolan on Wed, 09 July 2008 21:03
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