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Tue, 23 August 2011 23:32

Wil473

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Lighter Weapons - NCTH has a handling tag which essentially defines a penalty to hitting anything. In general the lighter the weapon the lower the Handling value. For instance the AK-105 has a lower handling value than the AN-94, AK-74 and AK-107 (three guns which have similar handling). Now handling is supposed to be countered by the NCTH Accuracy, but I'm suspecting (I don't know enough about the true mechanics to say definitively) that a large enough disparity in Handling may be giving smaller guns an unwanted edge. I remember there being some disagreement about this tag when NCTH was in development, something like which is more critical to aiming: being physically easier to point vs. longer distance between sight posts. The former won out, but perhaps was wrong, or perhaps it was the degree of influence given to handling that is the problem.

What I'd like to know before I make any authoritative claims about NCTH is how much influence does handling have in-game right now for single and bursts? I suppose I could just zero out the handling, and produce a conservative (small numbers) system of handling values and hope that moderates some of the excesses that seem to be present with lighter guns like the AK-105 (vs. its full size contemporaries).

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		NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: UniversalWolf on Fri, 29 July 2011 02:21
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Marlboro Man on Fri, 29 July 2011 16:17
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: PasHancock on Fri, 29 July 2011 16:24
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Marlboro Man on Fri, 29 July 2011 16:49
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: The Cheshire Cat on Sat, 30 July 2011 09:56
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Hazapuza on Sat, 30 July 2011 11:00
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: UniversalWolf on Mon, 01 August 2011 01:38
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Wil473 on Wed, 10 August 2011 23:35
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: UniversalWolf on Thu, 11 August 2011 01:16
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Wil473 on Thu, 11 August 2011 17:15
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: UniversalWolf on Mon, 15 August 2011 01:30
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: UniversalWolf on Sat, 20 August 2011 07:09
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Wil473 on Sun, 21 August 2011 04:43
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: UniversalWolf on Mon, 22 August 2011 02:48
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Wil473 on Tue, 23 August 2011 23:32
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Pariah on Wed, 24 August 2011 01:33
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Wil473 on Wed, 24 August 2011 02:37
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Pariah on Wed, 24 August 2011 07:03
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Wil473 on Wed, 24 August 2011 07:49
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Pariah on Wed, 24 August 2011 09:32
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Wil473 on Wed, 24 August 2011 20:57
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Pariah on Wed, 24 August 2011 21:14
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Wil473 on Wed, 24 August 2011 21:33
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Pariah on Wed, 24 August 2011 22:00
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Wil473 on Wed, 24 August 2011 22:22
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: UniversalWolf on Thu, 25 August 2011 02:13
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Wil473 on Fri, 26 August 2011 00:16
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: UniversalWolf on Fri, 02 September 2011 00:44
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Headrock on Fri, 11 November 2011 15:40
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Headhunter on Fri, 11 November 2011 20:19
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: DepressivesBrot on Fri, 11 November 2011 20:37
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Wil473 on Fri, 11 November 2011 20:48
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Headrock on Fri, 11 November 2011 21:38
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Wil473 on Fri, 11 November 2011 21:45
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Headrock on Fri, 11 November 2011 22:33
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: powerhouse11 on Sun, 13 November 2011 12:46
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Inkompetent on Mon, 14 November 2011 00:36
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Headrock on Mon, 14 November 2011 02:18
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Headrock on Mon, 14 November 2011 03:11
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Headhunter on Mon, 14 November 2011 12:26
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Headrock on Mon, 14 November 2011 15:04
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: usrbid on Mon, 14 November 2011 16:18
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Headrock on Mon, 14 November 2011 16:35
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: usrbid on Mon, 14 November 2011 17:12
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: powerhouse11 on Tue, 15 November 2011 13:00
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Headrock on Tue, 15 November 2011 22:36
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: pakopako on Thu, 17 November 2011 02:43
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: powerhouse11 on Thu, 17 November 2011 11:24
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Sam Hotte on Thu, 17 November 2011 15:34
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Action on Mon, 19 December 2011 22:13
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: knightofni on Tue, 20 December 2011 03:03
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: David81 on Tue, 20 December 2011 16:01
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Action on Wed, 21 December 2011 00:48
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Mon, 16 January 2012 19:24
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Logisteric on Mon, 16 January 2012 19:38
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Gorro der Grüne on Mon, 16 January 2012 20:22
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Mon, 16 January 2012 20:43
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Sam Hotte on Mon, 16 January 2012 21:34
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Mon, 16 January 2012 21:42
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Mon, 16 January 2012 22:36
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: UniversalWolf on Thu, 19 January 2012 00:15
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Fri, 20 January 2012 18:38
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: UniversalWolf on Sat, 21 January 2012 01:02
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Wil473 on Sat, 21 January 2012 02:56
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Headhunter on Mon, 13 February 2012 23:14
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Tue, 14 February 2012 07:41
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: DepressivesBrot on Tue, 14 February 2012 09:59
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Tue, 14 February 2012 23:48
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: sabresandy on Sun, 19 February 2012 06:07
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: buuface on Sun, 19 February 2012 12:14
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: DepressivesBrot on Sun, 19 February 2012 12:16
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: buuface on Sun, 19 February 2012 12:49
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Sun, 19 February 2012 13:15
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: sabresandy on Mon, 20 February 2012 00:07
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Mon, 20 February 2012 02:25
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: sabresandy on Mon, 20 February 2012 04:00
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: UniversalWolf on Sat, 25 February 2012 02:18
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Sat, 25 February 2012 05:58
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: sabresandy on Sun, 26 February 2012 06:06
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Sun, 26 February 2012 19:39
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: UniversalWolf on Mon, 27 February 2012 00:15
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Mon, 27 February 2012 01:39
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: sabresandy on Tue, 28 February 2012 00:27
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Tue, 28 February 2012 01:21
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: sabresandy on Tue, 28 February 2012 01:39
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Tue, 28 February 2012 02:49
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: sabresandy on Wed, 29 February 2012 00:49
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Wed, 07 March 2012 23:12
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Fri, 16 March 2012 08:50
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Biernath_J on Fri, 16 March 2012 09:23
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Mon, 19 March 2012 19:39
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Biernath_J on Mon, 19 March 2012 20:27
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Sweeper on Mon, 09 April 2012 18:22
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Nixou on Mon, 07 May 2012 08:43

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