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Wed, 24 August 2011 01:33

Pariah

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The following is what I had posted on another thread as part of a bigger post but the NCTH portion seems to fit better here so I am copy/pasting here since it seems others are having similar results...

NCTH:

I have some questions regarding the NCTH and sniper rifles. I had read some threads about the NCTH and how some like it and some don't. I haven't decided yet, but I would like some clarification if I may regarding how snipers are supposed to work with NCTH.

What I have seen so far is I have two people I have running around with snipers, an IMP with the Sniper trait using an IWM(?) and a MRK of 80 and Buns with the Marksman trait and her AIMNAS Mrk (80-something I think) using a Steyr Scout.

I have fought 5 battles including a major one and so far both of my snipers have hit a total of ONCE each. Yes, they have only tagged someone once and mind you, I have yet to attempt a head shot. Is this typical? The IMP must have fired close to 30 rounds and Buns is working on 40 rounds. And only 1 hit apiece.

I fired once standing up missed wildly and ever since they have been laying prone to fire and more than half the time firing from rooftop. I also only fire when I can use full aim, no snap shooting with a sniper rifle.

As for the ranges of the targets, I have read that serious penalties have been implimented (which I concur with) so I think the closest target has been around 14-15 tiles from the sniper and none of them have tried to fire outside of the range of the rifles. What is the actual minimum ranges for the scopes? You get a penalty if you fire at a tango 10 tiles or less with a 10x Scope? 20 tiles?

Heck, Buns has been massively more effective with her tricked out .40 S&W with the +1 range for a total of 12 tiles than she has with the sniper rifle. She has tagged a boogy three times out around 20 tiles with the pistol!

So what am I missing or is it simply that the penalties slapped on to a sniper rifle doesn't get negated until the shooter is higher level and his/her marksman is closer to 99? The reason I asked this was because prior to installing AIMNAS I was running with Scope (MRK 99) and she was hitting about 50% of the time.

This issue, I don't think, is related just to sniper rifles because another IMP (MRK low 70s) has a SOCOM 16 and he has fired close to 40 rounds and only has 3 hits. All of his targets have been at least 20 tiles out because if they are 20 and under he switches to a MPK. Speaking of which, how can a fire round burst miss a tango from 4 tiles?

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		NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: UniversalWolf on Fri, 29 July 2011 02:21
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Marlboro Man on Fri, 29 July 2011 16:17
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: PasHancock on Fri, 29 July 2011 16:24
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Marlboro Man on Fri, 29 July 2011 16:49
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: The Cheshire Cat on Sat, 30 July 2011 09:56
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Hazapuza on Sat, 30 July 2011 11:00
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: UniversalWolf on Mon, 01 August 2011 01:38
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Wil473 on Wed, 10 August 2011 23:35
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: UniversalWolf on Thu, 11 August 2011 01:16
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Wil473 on Thu, 11 August 2011 17:15
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: UniversalWolf on Mon, 15 August 2011 01:30
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: UniversalWolf on Sat, 20 August 2011 07:09
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Wil473 on Sun, 21 August 2011 04:43
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: UniversalWolf on Mon, 22 August 2011 02:48
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Wil473 on Tue, 23 August 2011 23:32
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Pariah on Wed, 24 August 2011 01:33
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Wil473 on Wed, 24 August 2011 02:37
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Pariah on Wed, 24 August 2011 07:03
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Wil473 on Wed, 24 August 2011 07:49
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Pariah on Wed, 24 August 2011 09:32
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Wil473 on Wed, 24 August 2011 20:57
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Pariah on Wed, 24 August 2011 21:14
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Wil473 on Wed, 24 August 2011 21:33
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Pariah on Wed, 24 August 2011 22:00
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Wil473 on Wed, 24 August 2011 22:22
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: UniversalWolf on Thu, 25 August 2011 02:13
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Wil473 on Fri, 26 August 2011 00:16
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: UniversalWolf on Fri, 02 September 2011 00:44
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Headrock on Fri, 11 November 2011 15:40
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Headhunter on Fri, 11 November 2011 20:19
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: DepressivesBrot on Fri, 11 November 2011 20:37
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Wil473 on Fri, 11 November 2011 20:48
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Headrock on Fri, 11 November 2011 21:38
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Wil473 on Fri, 11 November 2011 21:45
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Headrock on Fri, 11 November 2011 22:33
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: powerhouse11 on Sun, 13 November 2011 12:46
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Inkompetent on Mon, 14 November 2011 00:36
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Headrock on Mon, 14 November 2011 02:18
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Headrock on Mon, 14 November 2011 03:11
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Headhunter on Mon, 14 November 2011 12:26
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Headrock on Mon, 14 November 2011 15:04
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: usrbid on Mon, 14 November 2011 16:18
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Headrock on Mon, 14 November 2011 16:35
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: usrbid on Mon, 14 November 2011 17:12
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: powerhouse11 on Tue, 15 November 2011 13:00
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Headrock on Tue, 15 November 2011 22:36
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: pakopako on Thu, 17 November 2011 02:43
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: powerhouse11 on Thu, 17 November 2011 11:24
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Sam Hotte on Thu, 17 November 2011 15:34
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Action on Mon, 19 December 2011 22:13
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: knightofni on Tue, 20 December 2011 03:03
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: David81 on Tue, 20 December 2011 16:01
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Action on Wed, 21 December 2011 00:48
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Mon, 16 January 2012 19:24
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Logisteric on Mon, 16 January 2012 19:38
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Gorro der Grüne on Mon, 16 January 2012 20:22
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Mon, 16 January 2012 20:43
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Sam Hotte on Mon, 16 January 2012 21:34
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Mon, 16 January 2012 21:42
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Mon, 16 January 2012 22:36
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: UniversalWolf on Thu, 19 January 2012 00:15
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Fri, 20 January 2012 18:38
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: UniversalWolf on Sat, 21 January 2012 01:02
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Wil473 on Sat, 21 January 2012 02:56
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Headhunter on Mon, 13 February 2012 23:14
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Tue, 14 February 2012 07:41
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: DepressivesBrot on Tue, 14 February 2012 09:59
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Tue, 14 February 2012 23:48
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: sabresandy on Sun, 19 February 2012 06:07
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: buuface on Sun, 19 February 2012 12:14
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: DepressivesBrot on Sun, 19 February 2012 12:16
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: buuface on Sun, 19 February 2012 12:49
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Sun, 19 February 2012 13:15
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: sabresandy on Mon, 20 February 2012 00:07
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Mon, 20 February 2012 02:25
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: sabresandy on Mon, 20 February 2012 04:00
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: UniversalWolf on Sat, 25 February 2012 02:18
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Sat, 25 February 2012 05:58
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: sabresandy on Sun, 26 February 2012 06:06
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Sun, 26 February 2012 19:39
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: UniversalWolf on Mon, 27 February 2012 00:15
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Mon, 27 February 2012 01:39
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: sabresandy on Tue, 28 February 2012 00:27
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Tue, 28 February 2012 01:21
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: sabresandy on Tue, 28 February 2012 01:39
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Tue, 28 February 2012 02:49
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: sabresandy on Wed, 29 February 2012 00:49
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Wed, 07 March 2012 23:12
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Fri, 16 March 2012 08:50
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Biernath_J on Fri, 16 March 2012 09:23
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Ryft on Mon, 19 March 2012 19:39
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Biernath_J on Mon, 19 March 2012 20:27
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Sweeper on Mon, 09 April 2012 18:22
		Re: NCTH: Weapons that Disappoint By: Nixou on Mon, 07 May 2012 08:43

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