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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it!![message #295091] Tue, 13 December 2011 21:04 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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DepressivesBrot
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A lot of people still use OCTH, smeagol even makes OCTH the default for aimnas and though there is an unoficial NCTH patch for aimnas it is not set up right.
Any data-side restructuring of 1.13 has zero impact on AIMNAS or any other mod with its own item set.

Correct, but if we make it impossible or really hard to balance the game for both NCTH and OCTH the modders will be far more reluctant to do it, they will simply pick one and that will be it. So aimnas will essentially be forever OCTH, UC and DL will likely move to NCTH only, and anyone who wants to play those the other way will be SOL.
DepressivesBrot
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But it completely breaks OCTH, mostly because OCTH is based on range more than anything, NCTH is not.
Actually, what it does is break with the stupid Vanilla progression of everyone going to war with pistols. It bothers a lot of people, hence the popularity of alternate enemy gun choices with a more sensible premise. Btw, AIMNAS progression is in fact pretty close to an NCTH model. You'll encounter rifles and smg's in Omerta and old MGs not long after. The only faction that'll have a problem with it is the die hard, Vanilla at all costs crowd.

I disagree with it being close to a NCTH ideal model as headrock explained the ideal. The NCTH aimnas patch is actually what i used to tinker with. I believe the coolness levels were not messed with for the NCTH patch. You get pretty much all the pistols by coolness 5, only the g11 pdw is a 6 and ucp is a 7 (which really didn't make any sense). I made the g11 and ucp both 10, the five seven 9 and pretty much doubled the rest and went back and ticked a few down or up a cooless to fill in the odd coolness levels. The end result is a few of the really crappy handguns stayed at 1, the rest all changed, many drastically. And the pistols was by far the easiest to do. To get a decent spread like Headrock suggests, a lot of changes are necessary in aimnas and every other item set i have peeked at.
DepressivesBrot
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What i think would replace them is the enemy would get to choose anything from the current coolness level or maybe sometimes one or two coolness levels up or down. I actually think that makes sense anyways, if you can buy it on bobby rays, shouldn't diedranna and her men be able to as well?
Nope, it doesn't. It's an entirely different thing if you want to buy 3 rifles for a private company (/ LE / SF) or need to equip an army.

Well, that depends on the army. If it is regulars, then yah, they are all issued weapons and the issued weapons are really similar across the board. But arulco doesn't stike me as a regular army situation, it seems more like she has a mix of mercenary groups, regulars, and pressed irregulars. Mercenaries bring their own weapons, and irregulars typically use whatever they can get their hands on.
DepressivesBrot
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I admit i know little about the drop tables, I almost always play with enemy drop all turned on.
The drop tables that are used when drop all is off just give general percentages like 'armor has a 30% chance of dropping' - they need not concern us.
Well that is good news.

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