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Re: Guns Versus Tactics.[message #3668]

Thu, 16 September 2004 02:10

Folkewulf

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Registered:August 2003

Interesting Snap, and alot of things I hadn't thought of. You're right about "giving" the right of turn to the guy with the fastest gun but I still think it should be a factor along with the level and condition of the merc.

If you aren't going to shoot in the first place? If you and the enemy spot each other at the same time what do you do? Give him a kiss? (sorry, couldn't resist that) That's really the only time this will apply, if they spot you, you get shot, and if you spot them you can choose your action.

No gun, a knife, carry a handgun then switch to a LMG. You're also right about the can of worms, and one of them is crawling right into the inventory costs. And since this is the JA3 wishlist thats another thing that I think needs to be revamped. Walking in barehanded to get the initive then equiping a LMG at for 0 action points is just plain wrong. Like taking off your NVG and putting on a gasmask at no cost. Besides changing weapons or drawing one should be an automatic interupt for an enemy that has a weapon ready and can see you.

So lets see how this flies for JA3. Everything is based on the draw cost number. Just using a generic list as an example (someone who uses knives can argue if they should be 0 or 1);

0 - barehanded
1 - handgun
2 - SMG
3 - carbine
4 - assault rifle, shotgun
5 - LMG, sniper rifle
6 - heavy weapons

If you and the enemy spot each other at the same time the weapon class equiped should be used in determining initive along with your levels. So clearing room to room an MP5 has a definate advantage, as it should. And if you do anything but shoot the enemy gets an interupt.

Switching weapons is another subject. I think it should cost triple the draw cost to equip and unequip a weapon. Say you're carying your MP5 and you spot an enemy in the distance but they don't see you. It would cost 6AP to put the SMG away and 15 to unlimber the LMG or sniper rifle. then you still have to pay the draw cost of 5 to put it on target.

I just think there has to be a better way to make it work that inflating draw costs out of proportion with reality.

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		Guns Versus Tactics. By: Alpha Male on Thu, 19 August 2004 19:46
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Scottybrown100 on Thu, 19 August 2004 22:26
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Doc Croc on Thu, 19 August 2004 22:44
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Doc Croc on Thu, 19 August 2004 22:45
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Dr.Quack on Fri, 20 August 2004 00:13
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: ramfall on Fri, 20 August 2004 00:55
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Dr.Quack on Fri, 20 August 2004 01:22
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Bearpit on Fri, 20 August 2004 01:29
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Snap on Fri, 20 August 2004 11:25
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Snap on Fri, 20 August 2004 11:29
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Khor1255 on Fri, 20 August 2004 15:40
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Alpha Male on Fri, 20 August 2004 18:33
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: AZAZEL on Fri, 20 August 2004 19:23
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Alpha Male on Wed, 25 August 2004 00:08
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Doc Croc on Wed, 25 August 2004 09:01
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: grindedstone on Mon, 30 August 2004 23:49
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Alpha Male on Wed, 01 September 2004 08:10
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: grindedstone on Wed, 01 September 2004 17:30
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Alpha Male on Wed, 01 September 2004 18:56
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: grindedstone on Wed, 01 September 2004 19:22
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Sarge McSarge on Thu, 02 September 2004 09:37
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Doc Croc on Thu, 02 September 2004 10:36
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Folkewulf on Mon, 13 September 2004 07:02
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Alpha Male on Tue, 14 September 2004 19:49
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: grindedstone on Tue, 14 September 2004 21:42
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Snap on Wed, 15 September 2004 10:21
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: magnum on Wed, 15 September 2004 13:03
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: magnum on Wed, 15 September 2004 13:07
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Folkewulf on Thu, 16 September 2004 02:10
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Richard on Thu, 16 September 2004 03:40
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Snap on Thu, 16 September 2004 18:01
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Folkewulf on Fri, 17 September 2004 01:16
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Richard on Fri, 17 September 2004 02:57
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Snap on Sat, 18 September 2004 06:05
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Gideon on Sat, 18 September 2004 09:48
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Di^^^ on Sun, 19 September 2004 03:37
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: pheloncab on Sun, 19 September 2004 04:53
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Snap on Sun, 19 September 2004 06:47
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Fulby on Sun, 19 September 2004 08:20
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Gideon on Sun, 19 September 2004 23:32
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Di^^^ on Mon, 20 September 2004 02:37
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Phantom on Mon, 21 February 2005 06:09
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Khor1255 on Mon, 21 February 2005 11:30
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: Sooner on Thu, 10 March 2005 06:43
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: KIA on Thu, 10 March 2005 09:43
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: AZAZEL on Sat, 19 March 2005 01:23
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: KIA on Tue, 22 March 2005 02:22
		Re: Guns Versus Tactics. By: memphisto on Thu, 24 March 2005 15:13

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