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Soldier hiding behind the door ![message #278346]

Fri, 22 April 2011 03:08

Hic13th is currently offline

Messages:3
Registered:April 2011
Location: Tunis

Hi!!!

I'm in Tixa, killed everyone, but ther still one man hiding in a room ..

I tried many times to open the door, with 1, 2 or 3 of my guys but no change, he's got the first move and unload his clip on my mercs, at least one dies.

what do you suggest ?

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Civilian

Re: Soldier hiding behind the door ![message #278349]

Fri, 22 April 2011 03:47

Burzmali is currently offline

Messages:248
Registered:March 2007
Location: Estonia

Many ways to deal with that.

You are a commander, yes? Why did you went to Tixa in the first place? Because you need gas for your vehicles, a landing place for a helicopter and bigger income from Alma mine. So, is it worth a soldiers life? Probably yes. So deal with it, allow fatalities, it

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Sergeant 1st Class

Re: Soldier hiding behind the door ![message #278359]

Fri, 22 April 2011 06:33

usrbid is currently offline

Messages:1502
Registered:December 2008

I believe I know the room in Tixa, is it the one with the stairs going down? If both doors are closed, then try to use explosives against the wall, you will need dynamite, not hand grenades.

If at least one door is open, then you can try throwing a smoke grenade, wait a little for the smoke to spread, then walk into the doorway, you might get an interrupt before the enemy.

In situations where the gas of a grenade can reach the enemy around the corner because the gas cloud is slowly expanding, you can try tear or mustard gas to hurt the enemy. Injured enemies have a lower chance to interrupt.

In situations where there is a lot of room in front of the door, you can try positioning everyone in the sector in front of the door with their weapon raised, then have one merc open the door while kneeling, hopefully the group of soldiers will be large enough for one to get an interrupt.

I did not repeat Burzmali's suggestions, everything he/she said is correct and useful as well.

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Sergeant Major

Re: Soldier hiding behind the door ![message #278376]

Fri, 22 April 2011 13:11

public1983 is currently offline

Messages:125
Registered:February 2006

I do not want to break the immersion. But, what about leaving the sector and entering again. The army tends to forget about fights and wounds in a minute and a surprise is quite easy to exploit. If you want to keep playing the role you could also take it as a tactical retreat in a disadvantageous situation. You can do it as you would do in real life, differently from games with a much smaller world.

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Sergeant

Re: Soldier hiding behind the door ![message #278378]

Fri, 22 April 2011 13:26

Messages:3190
Registered:December 2008
Location: B

that other bloody brit

old siward
had he his wounds before

messenger
aye - in the front

old siward
well, some must go off - so god's soldier be he

what fun is playing a war-game if nobody of the supossedly good guys is to be hurt?

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Captain

Re: Soldier hiding behind the door ![message #278385]

Fri, 22 April 2011 14:55

Buns is currently offline

Messages:655
Registered:September 2010

Well said,

...on the other hand, it is rather a limitation of the game that you have to kill each and every enemy in situations like that, down to the last hardcore camper hiding under the bed behind a triple-locked door of steel. In a more realistic scenario you would be done with killing all enemies that realy oppose you, free Shank and get your overpayed asses out of cellar. In case they are still some left not completly dead you wouldn't care because you don't intend to stay anyways.

In this sense I don't accept any casualties in situations like that and repeat the situation until I manage to get rid of the last camper without losing anyone of my team.

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First Sergeant

Re: Soldier hiding behind the door ![message #278393]

Fri, 22 April 2011 16:01

Messages:3190
Registered:December 2008
Location: B

Buns

Well said,

...on the other hand, it is rather a limitation of the game that you have to kill each and every enemy in situations like that, down to the last hardcore camper hiding under the bed behind a triple-locked door of steel. In a more realistic scenario you would be done with killing all enemies that realy oppose you, free Shank and get your overpayed asses out of cellar. In case they are still some left not completly dead you wouldn't care because you don't intend to stay anyway.

nope - that means you know there is nothing but shank - you do know that because you played the game before - if you find a secret dungeon beneath a jail you inspect it (= take out every enemy and inspect it afterwards) - don't forget no gas if shank is not free (well, he won't talk to you as long as someone is allive)

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Captain

Re: Soldier hiding behind the door ![message #278397]

Fri, 22 April 2011 16:29

Hic13th is currently offline

Messages:3
Registered:April 2011
Location: Tunis

oh ... too many answers ..

thanks everyone ..

@Burzmali
First, I didn't go to Tixa for the reasons you mentioned .. Actually I'm just exploring the area south of Cambria (still didn't get Alma yet) ..

And it's not a problem if I lose a mercenary, I lost one before, but he was one of the persons you can hire from M.E.R.C .. so it's not a big deal ..

But in this case, I'm attacking Tixa with my main squad : Monk, Shadow and Reaper .. So I don't think I want one of them dead ..

And the names I cited answer your last suggestion, about the level .. for now reaper and shadow are level 6, monk is level 5 ..

and I tried every possible way ... So I think that the last thing I can do is to use TNT or a rocket

@Dieter

The door is closed, once I open it, the soldier kill one of my men ..I tried every possible combination ..

@Sunshine

Yeah, actually, I think I'll do that ..

@Logisteric

Do you suggest that I lose shadow, reaper or monk ? and then I kill the queen with Gumpy ? Razz

Razz

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Civilian

Re: Soldier hiding behind the door ![message #278401]

Fri, 22 April 2011 16:40

Messages:3190
Registered:December 2008
Location: B

my advise gives you two possible sollutions - if you manage to loose one of those three against that particular camper you should definately improve your tactics

and if their c.o. is such a nOOb that one of those three bites the dust well then SO BE IT

as it is the camper at the staircase - you do know this room has two doors? and he can't cover them both

just a tip: cover both doors - have your third merc make some loud noise and open the other door after that open the 'noisy' door

sound like you manage to have your denspack of mercs making noise and then open the door they are gathering in front of -> rattatatat

btw, it doesn't matter who dies - DEAD IS DEAD

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Captain

Re: Soldier hiding behind the door ![message #278446]

Sat, 23 April 2011 02:21

Hic13th is currently offline

Messages:3
Registered:April 2011
Location: Tunis

the other door is locked ..
that door is the only possible way ..

@logisteric ..
just for your info, I'm not new to this game.. I maybe played it before you .. I'm just re exploring after several years ..

so when I tell you that I did several things, then I mean it Razz

Razz

anyway .. I just destroyed the wall , and killed the bastard ..

But the problem here, is that I'm facing a similar situation in every sector .. the man or men hiding in a specific room .. the problem is not killing them, the problem is opening that door !!

I used dynamite twice .. in Tixa and in a SAM site, the third time in another SAM site I found a key and opened the door ..

now I'm in Alma .. the southern west sector .. and I'm facing the same problem .. soldiers hiding in a specific room and I don't know how to open that damn door without explosives !!! I tried many things, but nothing came up ..

this starts to piss me off! when I played the game before, ja2, I don't remember facing such a stupid situation .. it's really annoying and have nothing to do with reality cc @Buns

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Civilian

Re: Soldier hiding behind the door ![message #278455]

Sat, 23 April 2011 10:12

Messages:3190
Registered:December 2008
Location: B

the maps NEVER changed - these are the vanilla maps - the camper was alway there

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Captain

Re: Soldier hiding behind the door ![message #278460]

Sat, 23 April 2011 14:21

Buns is currently offline

Messages:655
Registered:September 2010

Logisteric

nope - that means you know there is nothing but shank - you do know that because you played the game before - if you find a secret dungeon beneath a jail you inspect it (= take out every enemy and inspect it afterwards)

Nope. I have the mission to free Shank from Tixa, provided following the usual storyline of learning about Tixa in Estoni. I cannot find him on surface level but learn about additional cells in the basement. So I get down there, shoot my way into the cell block, free Shank, and get everyone out there as quick as possible. I don't care if there are enemies left alive hiding somewhere in the labyrinth down there, but rather tell Barry to lock the door and place some nasty toys on the stairs.

After that we mount the helicopter and are gone "before the echo of the shots has fade away".

Quote:

(well, he won't talk to you as long as someone is allive)

Yes that's the problem. In case of those rescue-missions you should be able to talk to RPCs, recruit them and leave the sector with them in tactical. Even if that would mean the battle is considered "lost", the mission would then be completed.

I could also imagine some interessting tactical situation then, because when you had recruited Shank into your team the enemies would start shooting on him. Managing a safe exit for him (and the rest of the team) can become a new challange.

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First Sergeant

Re: Soldier hiding behind the door ![message #278492]

Sun, 24 April 2011 08:19

Messages:183
Registered:April 2003

hic13th

now I'm in Alma .. the southern west sector .. and I'm facing the same problem .. soldiers hiding in a specific room and I don't know how to open that damn door without explosives !!! I tried many things, but nothing came up ..

this starts to piss me off! when I played the game before, ja2, I don't remember facing such a stupid situation .. it's really annoying and have nothing to do with reality cc @Buns

You should have a lock picker on your team, but even if you don't, those sectors (Tixa and Alma) should have keys to the doors you need to open. You either need to kill the soldier holding the keys and pick them up, or you need to find the keys somewhere on the map.

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Staff Sergeant

Re: Soldier hiding behind the door ![message #279368]

Fri, 06 May 2011 04:28

usrbid is currently offline

Messages:1502
Registered:December 2008

hic13th

The door is closed, once I open it, the soldier kill one of my men ..I tried every possible combination ..

Did you try smoke?

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Sergeant Major

Re: Soldier hiding behind the door ![message #279374]

Fri, 06 May 2011 06:11

Blue_Fox is currently offline

Messages:538
Registered:September 2006
Location: Netherlands

Need picklock in 1 turn.
Try make some noise on the other side, so he turn around, he will sit with your back to you.
Try smoke & stun grenades.
Teargas probably not work, they all wear gasmaks.

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First Sergeant

Re: Soldier hiding behind the door ![message #279383]

Fri, 06 May 2011 09:45

usrbid is currently offline

Messages:1502
Registered:December 2008

You may also be able to use explosives to make a hole in the wall. Not grenades, real explosives.

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Sergeant Major

Re: Soldier hiding behind the door ![message #279384]

Fri, 06 May 2011 10:04

Gorro der Grüne is currently offline

Gorro der Grüne

Messages:1447
Registered:March 2009
Location: Broadwurschd-City

Leave the sector in normal mode and come back. You than have the chance that the soldier is placed somewhere else on the map.

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Sergeant Major

Re: Soldier hiding behind the door ![message #279391]

Fri, 06 May 2011 12:58

usrbid is currently offline

Messages:1502
Registered:December 2008

By the way, you don't have to leave the sector and arrive in the next sector, all you have to do is let one minute pass when leaving the sector, pause the time, cancel the move, and continue the time, your squad will arrive in the start sector one minute later.

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Sergeant Major

Re: Soldier hiding behind the door ![message #279392]

Fri, 06 May 2011 14:00

Blue_Fox is currently offline

Messages:538
Registered:September 2006
Location: Netherlands

You cant blow walls up in cellars.

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First Sergeant

Re: Soldier hiding behind the door ![message #279653]

Wed, 11 May 2011 00:28

usrbid is currently offline

Messages:1502
Registered:December 2008

Happy Birthday Blue_Fox!! Very Happy

Very Happy

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Sergeant Major

Re: Soldier hiding behind the door ![message #279655]

Wed, 11 May 2011 00:37

Gorro der Grüne is currently offline

Gorro der Grüne

Messages:1447
Registered:March 2009
Location: Broadwurschd-City

habby birthday

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