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NCTH: CTH in numbers for debug/evaluation?[message #287335] Sat, 23 July 2011 04:30 Go to next message
Gunjack is currently offline Gunjack

 
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Hy there.

Haven't been around for almost a year now, thought there might be some news, and there you got me again with the latest updates.

As I'm a perfectionist, my mercs usually call me many different unpleasant names, 'cause mostly they have to carry 3 guns with them, each best for a different range (rifle/long range AR, SMG/MP/small AR for mid range combat and a sidearm for <7 tiles distance). Now, with the NCTH and the new attachment system I find it a bit troublesome to read the CTH difference between different scopes on different ranges. I mean, the new indicator is perfect for normal playthrough, but if you are trying to find the top scope/laser config for your gun, comparing the diameter of the crosshair is a bit... well, hard? So i wanted to ask if there is a way to show the direct CTH numbers, or at least the crosshair diameter?

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Re: NCTH: CTH in numbers for debug/evaluation?[message #287691] Tue, 26 July 2011 17:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ctiberious is currently offline ctiberious

 
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There is no direct cth number in NCTH. That's the point of NCTH. It doesn't use a hit/miss percentage like OCTH does. NCTH calculates the area in which the bullet can go based on range (visible and real), terrain, your mercs skills and other factors, then picks a random point in that area to pass the bullet through. If that random point intersects with your target, then you hit.

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Re: NCTH: CTH in numbers for debug/evaluation?[message #290255] Fri, 02 September 2011 23:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've been meaning to bring this up for some time now, but while there may not be a Chance-to-Hit to be displayed, there are the numbers for radius of the initial and aimed accuracy indicators of the targeting cursor that would be useful for testing.

Right now I'm seeing if giving long arms a small bonus irons out the disparity between aiming with and without a scope. Going by the colour of the rings, and impressions of the sizes it seems to be working, however for this type of work it would be better if I could write down the measurements of the rings.

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Re: NCTH: CTH in numbers for debug/evaluation?[message #290678] Wed, 14 September 2011 04:52 Go to previous message
MorgluM is currently offline MorgluM

 
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There is no direct cth number in NCTH. That's the point of NCTH. It doesn't use a hit/miss percentage like OCTH does. NCTH calculates the area in which the bullet can go based on range (visible and real), terrain, your mercs skills and other factors, then picks a random point in that area to pass the bullet through. If that random point intersects with your target, then you hit.


It's hard to get a "chance to hit number" analytically but it would be easynumerically. One way to do this would be to let the computer pick 500 random points in that area in let me know what % hit my target. Not sure how computer intensive that would be, but I really would appreciate this.

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