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icon4.gif  Someone broke the old folding stock...[message #361962] Mon, 30 November 2020 17:18 Go to next message
Kurt is currently offline Kurt

 
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Yes, I know somebody created the new, 2-item versions of folding stock and retractable stock, but somewhere in this process they also broke the old versions, which is a problem for compatibility, more so since the new versions aren't dropable or buyable, so weapons either have them or not. BTW Bobby Ray's still sells the old version, without any bonus. Use it if you like a free to-hit penalty...

In the g2579 game files, both stocks still have their penalties (negative ToHitBonus), but their bonuses they initially gave are gone.
What's missing, for both (old) Folding Stock (#1008), and (old) Retractable Stock (#1009), is:
		<ItemSizeBonus>-1</ItemSizeBonus>
		<PercentReadyTimeAPReduction>30</PercentReadyTimeAPReduction>

Now of course somebody might argue that the reason the new twin stocks were created was that the original ones gave you an (almost) free bonus; But isn't this the case with most if not all attachments? It definitely isn't a reason to break the original versions.
People, please don't break the old items when introducing new, improved versions. It took me a while to understand why things didn't work the same anymore (things didn't fit anymore). Of course I will upgrade my items to use the new stock where applicable, but sometimes it won't work, sometimes fitting a mobile stock has to remain a choice of the player, and this apparently requires using the old version.

Just a heads up.

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Re: Someone broke the old folding stock...[message #361965 is a reply to message #361962] Tue, 01 December 2020 10:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
silversurfer

 
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It seems you missed the changes to the guns that went along the folding stock changes. You can read more about that here.


Wildfire Maps Mod 6.07 on SVN: https://ja2svn.mooo.com/source/ja2/branches/Wanne/JA2%201.13%20Wildfire%206.06%20-%20Maps%20MOD

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Re: Someone broke the old folding stock...[message #361968 is a reply to message #361965] Tue, 01 December 2020 16:42 Go to previous message
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silversurfer wrote on Tue, 01 December 2020 09:43
It seems you missed the changes to the guns that went along the folding stock changes. You can read more about that here.
"Item 1008 transforms into 1745 and vice versa." <-- That's the part I was missing, and of course had no way of guessing... Thanks.

All right, so what's the magic word to make them transform (fold/unfold)?

Serious guys, all items have a little blurb, so why don't you simply add a short instruction where necessary (like "Press [something] to activate"). Not all players are psychics, and they will be either lost (as my many posts here show) or simply miss much of the fun.
Adding a short description would go a long way towards making things more user-friendly. How long would it take to add "[Do something] to fold" in the unfolded item's description, and "[Do something] to unfold" in the folded item's one?...

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