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Re: THE GUN THAT NEVER WAS: Heckler & Koch G11[message #191688]

Fri, 25 July 2008 13:39

DNA from the Lowlands

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Registered:July 2003

I guess it's similiar to what you cited about the G11-ammo
"a little dust in the barrel, that can ignite in it and bring heavy thermic problems when firing."

'dust' in this case = gunpowder/G11-propellant (?hexal or it's predecessor)

Found one page with many - HITP DM11
DynamiteNobel ammo
4.73mm x 33 DM11
4.73 x 25 (for the PDW)
Appearantly there's a 4.9 prototype 'BBQ-block' as well, that green variant on the HKpage.

Wolfgang Seel has written a book about the G11 '99 is the date I found. (perhaps it's the same man)
His book is for sale online, there's many G11 and development model-pics on the product-summary page and part 2, text is about the sight/scope built for the G11.

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Re: THE GUN THAT NEVER WAS: Heckler & Koch G11[message #192703]

Sun, 03 August 2008 06:32

LCJr.

Messages:83
Registered:November 2001

Benelli was also working on caseless around around this timeframe. I remember seeing pictures in the 87' Shooters Bible of the 9mm caseless and SMG for it.

http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/3200/3252.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benelli_CB_M2
Now this is the gun I remember.

http://cartridgecollectors.org/cmo/cmo07apr.htm
But this is not the ammo I remember. What they were showing was very similiar to the Daisy VL with a block of propellant attached to a conventional bullet.

Bet a lot of you didn't know Daisy Airguns also made caseless ammo.
http://www.buymilsurp.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=13_15&products_id=1001&zenid=67f935bf212bcd3bc425278c8cb20a1d

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