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Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27669] Tue, 13 January 2004 20:24 Go to next message
Unifrag is currently offline Unifrag

 
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Well 1st off all i just noticed this forum. im a very addicted dutch JA Fan/Gamer.

well now

my oppinion: FN-Fall for life.

reason : great range (42)
Damage (32)
and offcourse the low AP needed points 2 fire a shot...

btw i played ja2 mayB 10 times over and over till the end but! i never seem 2 find that fnp90,but just 2 look @ those settings i dont think its better than my precious FN-Fall.

anyway did you dudes did the r&s + barrel extender on the H&K21? the settings of that gun are D(32) R(50) only you need 7 minimum 2 shoot a single bullet wich is better with the FN-Fall(5)


another thing can you steal the jelly from the bug queen when she's still alive??[/offtopic]

--> gameversion 1.02 dutch.(plays superB)

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27670] Tue, 13 January 2004 23:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Coffeejunk is currently offline Coffeejunk

 
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Registered:November 2003
Location: Netherlands

If you have played JA2 through at least ten times, then why not try Urban Chaos?? The new mod for JA2.

You probably need to update your dutch JA2 to the english v1.06 before installing UC (I did, encountered no problems in UC so far). Patches available from JA-galaxy, very easy to do.

Best gun: dunno, I think that's different for everyone, because there are many ways in which you can play the game. During NO, I like the automatic guns (5-6 bullet bursts), range isn't that important then. Just playing daytime ops for the first time now (UC). haven't seen all the guns yet, so can't say which I enjoy best.. (Hey, but that's another post (or three other posts.?.?))

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27671] Tue, 13 January 2004 23:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Unifrag is currently offline Unifrag

 
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well i allready got uc Smile

anyway i can play it with my dutch version Very Happy
that was kinda lucky imo. because most things wont work with it anyway UC is kinda cool. only "deidrana has a really bad voice" they should've improved that. but as is said in the topic ^^
oppinions what you think is the best gun and why. and yes im playing Ja2 again ^^ Razz . and UC.even some multiplayer DG with a friend of mine. graphics awefull but still gameplay rocks.

on the sidenote. did you guys every tried to import a Ja2 savegame into UC?(just load it). ermm looks like a lot read-skirts Very Happy

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27672] Wed, 14 January 2004 22:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DNA from the Lowlands is currently offline DNA from the Lowlands

 
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True...

FN-FAL extender/rod-spring/scope/lasersight

But also minime-auto-supression-fire bipod instead of lasersight.

Was it the C-7 (?) "light(er)weight" 6 round burst.

I haven't gone after the Steyer Aug for a month... shame on me, ranges 50 and damage ??
to quote Samuel Jackson from "Jackie Brown":
"...Steyer Aug is a bad mothaetc."

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27673] Thu, 15 January 2004 00:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
knuckles65 is currently offline knuckles65
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Registered:December 2003
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Give me that Steyr AUG I love the 50 range. I'll try to equip both weapons with the same attachments and check for results............Get back to you when I do. :rifle:

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27674] Thu, 15 January 2004 02:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Doodleman3 is currently offline Doodleman3

 
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JA2 = G-11
No burst penalty and ammo that cuts through Spectra like a hot knife through butter

JA2:UB = Barrett
The range of the gods and Damage to match, need I say more?

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27675] Thu, 15 January 2004 04:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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HK 21

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27676] Mon, 19 January 2004 19:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Unifrag is currently offline Unifrag

 
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Quote:
Originally posted by Doodleman3:
JA2 = G-11
No burst penalty and ammo that cuts through Spectra like a hot knife through butter

JA2:UB = Barrett
The range of the gods and Damage to match, need I say more?
try 2 beat up mike till he's on the ground then steal his G-11.... then shoot him till he's off to hell. you get another G-11 :>

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27677] Tue, 20 January 2004 08:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Khor1255 is currently offline Khor1255

 
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Yea that's a sort of glitch that also happens with regular bad guys. It seems to happen more often with scripted enemies but will not happen every time.

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27678] Wed, 21 January 2004 22:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Forsaken is currently offline Forsaken

 
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Well, for me:

HK G21
M14

- Forsaken

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27679] Wed, 21 January 2004 23:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Scottybrown100 is currently offline Scottybrown100

 
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What ever the Russian machine gun thingy is... the RPK? is that what its called... it has a long range, good damage, and best of all a real menacing sound! :naughty: the sound always has to sound good before I give a gun to one of my mercs...

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27680] Thu, 22 January 2004 16:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
markpoll is currently offline markpoll

 
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Location: sydney
Quote:
Originally posted by UniFrag:
Quote:
Originally posted by Doodleman3:
JA2 = G-11
No burst penalty and ammo that cuts through Spectra like a hot knife through butter

JA2:UB = Barrett
The range of the gods and Damage to match, need I say more?
try 2 beat up mike till he's on the ground then steal his G-11.... then shoot him till he's off to hell. you get another G-11 :>
You don't need to steal it. It drops if you kill him. He's a pretty tough customer to steal from. I did it once by blowing a hole in a building I knew he was in at night and having Numb and Dr Q on either side of the hole. Mike ran out and took a beating. I wonder if he'd have got an interupt if it was daylight and blown the two of them away. Normally I take him out with a head shot from an elevated position.

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27681] Thu, 22 January 2004 23:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:
Originally posted by Scottybrown100:
What ever the Russian machine gun thingy is... the RPK? is that what its called... it has a long range, good damage, and best of all a real menacing sound! :naughty: the sound always has to sound good before I give a gun to one of my mercs...
RPK-74. But ammo is scarce at the end of the game.
So I only keep one. But, yes, overall a kick-ass-weapon.

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27682] Fri, 23 January 2004 05:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Doodleman3 is currently offline Doodleman3

 
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I think the G-3A3 has the best sound I just love that crack! noise that it makes.

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27683] Fri, 23 January 2004 06:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Maddog is currently offline Maddog

 
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Quote:
Originally posted by UniFrag:


my oppinion: FN-Fall for life.

reason : great range (42)
Damage (32)
and offcourse the low AP needed points 2 fire a shot...

btw i played ja2 mayB 10 times over and over till the end but! i never seem 2 find that fnp90,but just 2 look @ those settings i dont think its better than my precious FN-Fall.
FN-FAL is probably the best gun in-game. It takes only a few action points and has good damage and yes, it has a great range.
Has anyone found any cons of it? It doesn't weigh much, you can attach everything it... it's perfect!

About the FNP90... BLAH! It can be counted as a pistol. Not good. At all.

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27684] Fri, 23 January 2004 22:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Forsaken is currently offline Forsaken

 
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A possible con against the Fn-Fal is the short burst. Later in the game one burst won't be enought to kill an enemy (well armoured black-shirt. So weapons with a higher damage and/or a larger burst would be needed. Such weapons are the C7, M14 and HK G21 for example.

Though the Fn-Fal seems to be a good all round weapon, espicially for the average mercs without the auto-weapon-trait.

- Forsaken

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27685] Sat, 24 January 2004 09:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Residue is currently offline Residue
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Nailing people to the head with M-14 seems to make them stop... odd.. Smile

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27686] Fri, 30 January 2004 20:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tuccy is currently offline tuccy

 
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I am using my mod with re-calculated ranges, APs and damage and with some new weapons... Changed the RPK-74 to RPK-47 and aded 75rd ammo drum - now with this magasine it is really good SAW:) And 200rd belt for Minimi...

Now I'd say... Best pistol: Five-seveN
Best SMG: Uzi, MP5A3 if U look for silenced ones (Oh, and I have almost forgotten the P90), Commando for rock'n'roll.
Best rifle: I have replaced the SKS with Ruger Mini Thirty. It is better than the other Ruger, but not too much. And if you want silenced, then use DeLisle .45 carbine.
Best Assault Rifle: Steyr, FAL, or C-7
Best Sniper rifle: Barett, Galil Sniper, M24, Dragunov - everyone has its own pros and cons, hard to pick up one... Also the RPK-47 and L86 LSW, when used in single-shot mode, are quite accurate. And when in need U can spray...
Best LMG: HK21 for its devastating effect, Minimi for less AP required and smaller weight. I have replaced the CAWS with Czech UK59L LMG, using the same ammo as Dragunov, that means 7.62x54R.

So... It is hard to tell which one is the best, I'd say most weapons can be good in some situations and not so good in other. So almost each o my mersc uses different weapons and they make a deadly team together.

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27687] Mon, 02 February 2004 01:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JAT is currently offline JAT

 
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C-7 is only gun you need. Give it to Auto Weapons expert ( Experienced enough ) and you can conquer almost any sector alone in daytime.

Of course you need Bipod, Laser Scope, Sniper Scope and Rod & Spring.

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27688] Mon, 16 February 2004 18:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tommy is currently offline Tommy

 
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yep, C-7 all the way, Baby!

but in JA2:DL i would have to say that super shorty is the BANG!

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27689] Sun, 21 March 2004 18:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ghrad is currently offline Ghrad

 
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M-14: Rod&Spring, Laser, Sniper scope, and bipod...gimme 8 clips, a knife, a locksmith kit and a couple camo kits and I'll walk right into the palace without taking any of the towns at all *grins evilly* Solo to level 10 Wink

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27690] Wed, 24 March 2004 00:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Guys,what about 2 FN P90 for a change? Con: no scope but... I've tried also the AR Rifle, even duped it, but it's too damn an easy game- one shot, the head blows, bored out of my bug balled tree by the skiffy comments.In real life I guess I'd go for the M14 anytime.If ever...

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27691] Sat, 10 April 2004 19:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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oke i know i m new here and this is my first post but anybody can see the c-7 is the best assault rifle in the game because of its big burst fire (5) and his big clip (30) wich is higher than the (20) of the fn-fal the only weapon better then the c-7 is the fa-mass if you have a barrel extender because its hase the same burst and clip but firering coust on ap point les and the best light machine gun is the rpk-74 because it's the lightest of the 3 and it has a bigger clip than the H&k wich has a clip of 20 which is to smal for a gun that wil be constantly on burst mode (you schould use a auto merch)

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27692] Sat, 10 April 2004 20:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Saturnine is currently offline Saturnine

 
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M-14

I always thought it was the best all round weapon.

Nobody suggest the stupid rocket rifle!

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27693] Sat, 10 April 2004 22:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wudu is currently offline wudu

 
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The best weapon:
Combat Knife

...was this about guns? :professor:

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27694] Tue, 13 April 2004 11:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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what about JA2 wildfire, anyone got any suggestions what is the best weapon in that game?

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27695] Tue, 13 April 2004 23:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Alpha Male is currently offline Alpha Male

 
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DIsclaimer:
I am not a gun afficionado,and no not wish to make myself pass as someone with any real extensive or real knowledge of firearms.There are people in this forum mutch better suited for that part,this is just my two cents.


In the craft that is warfare,weapons are tools.
-Aside from monetary and resource/availabilty limitations as to the choice of weaponry,if there was ever such a thing as a "best" gun,there wouldnt be no need for any others.As such the diversity of weapons reflects the different tactical situations in wich it their employment can be of more advantage.

In closed spaces/close quarters,one would probably find most handguns,machine pistols,smg

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27696] Sun, 18 April 2004 14:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
North is currently offline North

 
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actually I always like the grenade launcher thing, Twas very useful, shoot a smoke grenade at night with my grenade launcher/ go toward enemys w/ night ops + UV goggles. but aside that

c-7 + psyco personality + auto weap. + night ops + UV gogles + night = ownz

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27697] Tue, 20 April 2004 15:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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.38 S&W- Nuff said.

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27698] Wed, 21 April 2004 05:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
North is currently offline North

 
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Oh DaCheetah, we meant BESIDES the great and powerful .38 S&W. Wink

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27699] Wed, 21 April 2004 15:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ohh, ok... in that case... it was a sad, sad day when I gave up my MP53 and AKSU's for the longer range of the AR. Can anyone tell me why the hell you would take the Steyr over the C-7 or FNFAL???

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27700] Wed, 21 April 2004 15:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Khor1255 is currently offline Khor1255

 
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The Steyr has better range and if I'm remembering correctly less APs to fire. But you're right nothing, but nothing beats the .38!
I love the FAL but don't normally hang with it or the C7. FALs get replaced by HK21s (my personal favorite) and C7s by Steyrs. As always, to each his own.

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27701] Thu, 22 April 2004 05:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
North is currently offline North

 
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i always used steyrs but in ja2 gold, the modified dragunuv( 8 ap to fire and dmg 36) is fun to play with, though I still have razor with the c7 and dragunuv, wolf with his c7 and dragunuv, Streir(IMP) with FN-FAL and dragunuv and Haywire with his M33(i think?).

People are right, haywire and razor are fun to play with, though I always do solo missions, right now im training haywire in between enemy troops retaking tixa, then he is soloing and taking tixa back, training more, retaking tixi...

works quite well.

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27702] Thu, 22 April 2004 17:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Type-85. It has the most terrifying sound in burst mode Smile

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27703] Fri, 23 April 2004 17:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I new guy here from the American Branch of AIM. Glad to know I am not alone in the love of this game. Wish they both the rights to X-COM UFO DEFENSE.

I see I am not alone in my love for the FN-FAL. Good weapon and even made RAZOR very deadly. If he couldn't throw a knife (tossed one for 85 damage the other night) it worked out great. Add a scope your a killer.


Personally though I just want alot of AR-15/M16s and AK-47s. Another thing is mercs should come in with much better weapons to start. Bobby Ray's should provide alot more gear.

Another cool thing would be if you could decide what gear to give your militia. Sorry guys I love the game but have a million changes to make it better.

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27704] Fri, 23 April 2004 17:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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oops.......bought the rights to X-COM

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27705] Fri, 23 April 2004 17:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rednight is currently offline Rednight

 
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Also forgot my favorite....A mainstay of the U.S. Army for years the M-14. Simple and solid weapon. Takes 5.56 ammo like a number of weapons to it is easy to stay supplied.

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27706] Fri, 23 April 2004 22:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In game, the M-14 takes 7.62mm Nato, not 5.56mm. Do you mean the Ruger Mini-14? That takes 5.56mm, but its not as good as the SKS...

I think the option of a higher-tech start should be there, where both mercs and soldiers start with rifles etc. That could be one for the white-hats...

Oh, and welcome to the board.

Apollo

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27707] Sat, 24 April 2004 06:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In JA2 aanila I like a blend of the FN-FAL for my snipers and C-7 for my upclose guys, with my heavy weapons folkes bringing up the rear. I always played day ops, though. I imagine for night ops the C-7's burst fire would be even more useful at the closer ranges.

Still, you gotta love those one shot kills from the FN-FAL...

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Re: Best Gun ingame.Oppinions please :)[message #27708] Sun, 25 April 2004 17:02 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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All the weapons are okay just some are better then others. All the NATO gear is a cut above the Russian/Warrsaw Pact stuff. THe C-7 is nice, but I would love the M4 and M-16. Also be nice to mount a shotgun under the M-16..that would be cool to switch off. This game also lacks good support weapons I think. Though nothing is sweeter then head shot at close range.


Thanks drill sargeant...good to be aboard. You know what would be cool.....online combat. Giant map and every member gets to build a character. There would be some awsome battles. Your character saves in a "safe zone" where you can sleep and train while not online. Players could open "factories" and shops selling gear to other players. Groups of players could setup mercenary camps. Yeah it sounds like Star Wars Galaxy, (don't get me wrong I love StarWars) but so many would turn out to fight these online battles. Could even setup Platoons (like clans)

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