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Re: JAO Beta[message #293869] Fri, 18 November 2011 19:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Toneone is currently offline Toneone

 
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Just as a heads up, a staff member posted on their forum that they will unlock players for the closed beta in the order they have registered.
So if you came late to the party the chances are slim, i would assume.

Seeing as how i regged one day after Depri, and he got his key today, i have hopes for the weekend.

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Re: JAO Beta[message #293870] Fri, 18 November 2011 19:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot is currently offline DepressivesBrot

 
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tao
Is progress attainable without *Donations?
Primetide said yes. We'll have to see if they stand by it.

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Re: JAO Beta[message #293874] Fri, 18 November 2011 21:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hazmat
Just as a heads up, a staff member posted on their forum that they will unlock players for the closed beta in the order they have registered.
So if you came late to the party the chances are slim, i would assume.

Seeing as how i regged one day after Depri, and he got his key today, i have hopes for the weekend.


Heck, that leaves me a day and something after you then...Which means more waiting, dang.

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Re: JAO Beta[message #293889] Sat, 19 November 2011 01:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tried it too this evening, played one mission, with 2 guys (my merc and Dimitri), against the (many indeed) bikers. Nearly got killed with both, but i made it finally. Now they're resting ... and healing Smile

It's still an early beta, there's some annoying glitchs, and plenty of little things not "finished". But all in all it works well (though i'm a bit skeptical about the AI), and it's better than what i was expecting. Graphics are nice by the way.



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Re: JAO Beta[message #293994] Mon, 21 November 2011 12:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
primetide is currently offline primetide

 
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Regarding registry - if you let me know your email I can bump you up the cue. we are inviting (literally) thousands of people, but not all at once -CB is going to run for a while still.

regarding bugs and balancing - it is a REAl Closed beta. We are actually using it to fix things and get a hang of balancing, so there will be a lot of annoying bugs. I am actually happy we did not crash servers at all...

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294051] Wed, 23 November 2011 02:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't want to repost what i've written on the beta forum, so i will just link it.

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294086] Thu, 24 November 2011 18:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Toneone is currently offline Toneone

 
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Yes!
I got my key Very Happy

But guess what?
A lot of stuff has me bogged down at least till sunday...Sad
I

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294099] Fri, 25 November 2011 01:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Going to school now, will allow you to play video games later.

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294123] Fri, 25 November 2011 14:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Toneone is currently offline Toneone

 
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Well i already went to school, so im covered on that front.
Also there was a joke in my post Tao, its just a thing i do you see.

In other news, i was able to steal an hour of my usual nap time and played the game a bit.
I can definitely say that the game is fun. Still rough, like you would a CB expect to be, but fun.
The style may not be everyones cup of tea, due to the browser game mechanics but the pure combat is quick and promisng so far.
One thing i always missed in JA was a kind of "quick battle" game mode.
Just a map with some mercs and some combat, not a whole campaign or whatever, like multiplayer but without the hassle.
JAO fills that role nicely, imho.

And for those who still wait for a key, dont fret.
Youll probably will be playing a patched version along the line without some of the more nasty quirks the game has atm.

regards

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294134] Fri, 25 November 2011 22:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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we expect a patch including interrupt, tutorial, balancing patches and more intelligent AI as well as hearing AI mid next week

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294140] Sat, 26 November 2011 03:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for the heads up!
Ive played one of the beginner contracts so far, and one thing i took notice of was the not so clever AI.
You already said that you will use different models for each enemy group and that some will be lunatics, or dumb.
But i had several instances where the AI just bunched up in the same cover spot and got shot down like ducks.
Rushing me could have turned the tide.
I

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294170] Sun, 27 November 2011 06:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hazmat

The style may not be everyones cup of tea, due to the browser game mechanics but the pure combat is quick and promisng so far.
One thing i always missed in JA was a kind of "quick battle" game mode.
Just a map with some mercs and some combat, not a whole campaign or whatever, like multiplayer but without the hassle.
JAO fills that role nicely, imho.

And for those who still wait for a key, dont fret.
Youll probably will be playing a patched version along the line without some of the more nasty quirks the game has atm.

Totally agree about that.
Sometimes in JA2 I wished I could just go assault sectors and stop bothering with troop invasions in certain cities.
JAO offers my kind of gameplay-infiltration and assault while you still preserve your HQ base and management role in there.

Also support the idea that people who join later will just get a more polished version and not go through some vital bugs and all that. Still wish them good luck joining ASAP though.

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294203] Mon, 28 November 2011 12:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
primetide is currently offline primetide

 
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yes, main merc bug and upgrades are fixed, interrupt is in and we also have a tutorial of sorts...will be going live later this week after some more testing

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294253] Mon, 28 November 2011 23:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Toneone is currently offline Toneone

 
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Thx for the info primetide!

Looking forward to the new patch, and ive read you will reset all accounts once its out.
I would like that very much, seeing as how quickly i burned through my gold&fuel.
Mostly due to the repair/healing system, as other user stated already.

regards

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294255] Mon, 28 November 2011 23:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Still waiting to play...

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294263] Tue, 29 November 2011 03:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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tao
No thanks, Just release regular beta.

tao
Still waiting to play...


:cheers:

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294270] Tue, 29 November 2011 15:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Damn it, can't believe I missed this.
Better put on my best suit (t-shirt, slippers, loose fitting underwear) and send in my application.

Wha-aaat?! Can't believe someone already nabbed the name 'Slax'. Who'd commit such a heinous crime?

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294386] Fri, 02 December 2011 12:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
primetide is currently offline primetide

 
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regarding account names- it appears gamigo erroneously reports names as being taken sometimes.
update: postponed to early next week - we had a nasty Ai bug to fix.
But at least we added new gold and cash to everyone's account, so you can continue to play (until you run into our reputation bug around level 17 that is).
@ Tao - did I get your mail adress so I can bump you up?

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294393] Fri, 02 December 2011 15:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
I sent you a private message.

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294437] Sat, 03 December 2011 23:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
primetide is currently offline primetide

 
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received- you have been bumped up and should get an invite early next week

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294514] Tue, 06 December 2011 00:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
It runs very very slowly and jerky on my equipment. It is almost unbearable.

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294515] Tue, 06 December 2011 00:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot is currently offline DepressivesBrot

 
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That's (probably) not your equipment.

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294516] Tue, 06 December 2011 00:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
It is supposed to be like that?

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294517] Tue, 06 December 2011 01:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot is currently offline DepressivesBrot

 
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No, but I and many others on the jao board get these delays as well.

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294527] Tue, 06 December 2011 11:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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there is optimization missing still and the AI server is sometimes a bottleneck. you can turn down quality by pressing 9 to reduce graphics and 8 for fullscreen (strangely that also helps a bit, due to less mem swapping)

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294634] Thu, 08 December 2011 02:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just a heads up for you folks.
After the new patch there seems to be some problems with some browsers.
I could log in with FireFox but had no problems with Internet Explorer.

The new patch really brought the game another step forward.
With a neat tutorial and some new styling and features the game takes on a more sophisticated shape.
I played the tutorial contract today and i like what they have done so far. Theres even little goals per mission(finish in x turns, use only x shots, etc.) and you get medals based on these which in turn gives more xp,cahs payout.
I like it, gives you a good reason to play with your head.

The shop, and what stuff is available per player level has been revamped and feels better. Not right, but way better then before. And you can finally sell of your Junk.
Oh, and there are some more familiar faces in the tutorial and in your base.
Guess who manages my base stash?
Very Happy

If you have a key, jump in and see for yourself!

@Tao&Depri
That sucks guys.
I had no delays or problems so far on my end.
The game takes some time to load but after that its fluid.
Im guessing a lot of opti has to be done to take all the different user system into account.

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294685] Thu, 08 December 2011 17:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot is currently offline DepressivesBrot

 
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It's not that bad. First, it's not constant and second, minor delays have no actual gameplay impact in a turn system.

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294697] Thu, 08 December 2011 17:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Having a problem with loading the game. The loading bar finishes and sound loads up. That's it. To hell with it. It wasn't that great anyways. Good try 'fellas.

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294702] Thu, 08 December 2011 17:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot is currently offline DepressivesBrot

 
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Your call. What the f*** did you expect from Closed Beta though? A polished and 100% bug free product?

Sry, but that had to be said.

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294712] Thu, 08 December 2011 18:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well at least i'd expect something that boots up

not to mention lately in gaming the only difference between betas and finished product is the cd case

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294718] Thu, 08 December 2011 18:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Maybe my understanding of being beta tester might be wrong, but i'd assume that a tester stumbling across major trouble like "the game is not starting" would contact developers and report the trouble including his given hard- and software system including type and location of internet connection (it's an online game, still) to aid in a solution to this.

Wink

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294719] Thu, 08 December 2011 18:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It has been reported in the official forum and primetide said they are on it.

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294725] Thu, 08 December 2011 18:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
@Db
Like Luppolo said.
and
This game sucks.

I don't expect anything from it. I don't care if they fix it or not.

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294731] Thu, 08 December 2011 19:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Your call Tao.

As for the rest, try a different browser.
After the patch, Firefox has problems but internet explorer works fine. Other browsers might work too.

[Updated on: Thu, 08 December 2011 19:31] by Moderator

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294732] Thu, 08 December 2011 19:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Wikimedia_browser_share_pie_chart.png

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294756] Fri, 09 December 2011 01:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
primetide is currently offline primetide

 
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We have issues with some browsers and emptying the cache- actually no, Unity has issues with it we weren't aware of in conjunction with emptying the cache. We are fixing that as I type.
The easiest way not to have issues is use ANY browser you didn't use with the game before or IE if you played it inyour browser. On Chrome it can be helped by empyting the cache sometimes.

@ Tao - sorry that you feel that way, your call obviously. But I think we have gone out of our way to provide you guys with closed beta access, so you could feedback. "Wasn't great" is some feedback, but not exactly the level of detail we had hoped for.

@ Lupollo- this is why we have a closed beta - the game isn't fit for release- nor are we saying it is.

[Updated on: Fri, 09 December 2011 01:10] by Moderator

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294758] Fri, 09 December 2011 01:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
I have no cache in my browser....ever.

I can't provide feedback if I can't play the game.

What I did play seemed kind of pointless.

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294819] Sat, 10 December 2011 00:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Luppolo, tao, and whoever else it may concern: As other's have said, this is a beta. That means bugs need fixing, game mechanics may need changing, and some content is still being added. Since it's and actual, proper testing beta -unlike games such as Battlefied 3, were you simply got access to a relatively old build- which means it's purpose is for users to find bugs and other issues so that they can be fixed before the launch.

If the game is unplayable for some reason, that's a problem that needs to be fixed. If gameplay is boring, that's a problem that needs to be fixed. If it takes too long for you to get interested in it, that's a problem that needs to be fixed... and when you come across something that needs to be fixed, the devs want to hear about it so they can actually fix it.


Because JAO is going to be free-to-play, it's very important that it draws you in within the first mission or so, because the lack of investment means there is little compulsion for the average person (no particular love of JA games) to keep playing until they reach the point where it gets really interesting.

The free-to-play model also means that they need to keep people interested for as long as possible; the more time someone puts into something, the more likely they are to shell out money. And if people play for a day and move on, few of them are going to give Gamigo money but all of them are going to cost money (server costs, etc.).

As a result of all this, primetide and co. benefit greatly from testers telling them what is not liked, what is liked, and what would be liked. They need to make something people actually enjoy, otherwise they're simply not going to make money. Its a mutually beneficial process Wink.

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294829] Sat, 10 December 2011 08:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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and it's kind of ridicules, they are answering like almost every thread. I was considering to post some old poem of mine, which nobody would probably read on his free time. Just to know for sure, someone read them...

Excellent :snake:

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Re: JAO Beta[message #294899] Sun, 11 December 2011 18:42 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
primetide is currently offline primetide

 
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tao
I have no cache in my browser....ever.

I can't provide feedback if I can't play the game.

What I did play seemed kind of pointless.


your browser may not cache stuff, Unity cache does...anyway, as mentioned, we are not going to try to talk anyone into playing who isn't interested and we aren't going to be able to please everybody. I only think that by virtue of us investing a high amount of work and time into talking to our users we could hope for something reciprocal.
If it is pointless for you it would interest us what you mean - lack of story? the action gameplay? the meta gameplay?

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