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BIA Weapon Classes?[message #300882] Sat, 03 March 2012 22:35 Go to next message
mpsingleton is currently offline mpsingleton

 
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Near as I could tell, there's no way inside the game to actually see what type of weapon any particular gun is. for example, the AXSU and MP53 say they're SMGs in their descriptions, but are they really? Is the CAR-15 an SMG or an assault rifle? I spent a good chunk of last night searching for a list that might show which weapons are which types, but only found answers for specific models (and not the ones I was looking for). I've even gone so far as to download modding tools to try and get at the raw game data, but haven't been able to get them to work yet.

Could someone provide a quick list of the vanilla weapons, broken up by weapon type?

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Re: BIA Weapon Classes?[message #300885] Sat, 03 March 2012 23:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sam Hotte

 
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AFAICS none of the guns in calibres 5.45 and 5.56 are considered as SMGs but as ARs.

Rule of thumb:
1) if you can attach any optics it's not an SMG.
2) If you can attach silencer it's not an AR.

Take a look next door in the modding area, there are links to the mod's discussion in official board. And, that's the good news for you, the weapon editing thingies do provide a vanilla weapons.txt that already does contain the classification "GunType" of each gun in game. Smile

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Re: BIA Weapon Classes?[message #300887] Sat, 03 March 2012 23:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mpsingleton is currently offline mpsingleton

 
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that's a pity, since several of them are actually called SMGs in their text, and s like fox would be a lot more useful with micro-carbines. Just another problem, I guess...

Also, isn't the P90 classed as an SMG? and it can't use suppressors, but can use scopes?

If I manage to get the files open later, I'll see about getting a list up. For now, my Minimis just arrived, and I need to give them a test run.

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Re: BIA Weapon Classes?[message #300893] Sun, 04 March 2012 00:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sam Hotte

 
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AFAIK the P90 can be suppressed in BiA. Thus it's considered a SMG.

Edit: But maybe i am mixing this up with MP7 and/or a modded version. Not sure about it. Sad

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Re: BIA Weapon Classes?[message #301382] Fri, 09 March 2012 07:35 Go to previous message
Deus Ex is currently offline Deus Ex

 
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The p90, m1a1, mp5SD (for obvious reasons) etc can't be suppressed, unless you're playing Blue Dawn mod and got your hands on the CQB kit. Basically only guns that're wielded single-handed can be suppressed from what I've noticed so far.

The vanilla game weapon classes are confusing, especially the HK53 & AKSU. A real waste cos' they could have just put the weapon class into the displayed stats.

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